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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: Long Roller on November 08, 2006, 10:01:33 AM

Title: New Roto Grip
Post by: Long Roller on November 08, 2006, 10:01:33 AM
The “Classic” is back.  Roto Grip is proud to announce the release of the SD-73 “Classic”.  The ball that created the most controversy ever in the industry is back by popular demand.


The Low RG (2.50) High Differential (.075) weight block is illegal by today’s USBC standards, but since it was approved prior to the rule change it is perfectly legal for all USBC and PBA Regional competition.

The Sure Gripâ„¢ solid reactive coverstock is a performance proven winner over the last several years and is still one of the highest friction coverstocks on the market today.  

FACTS                            CORE DYNAMICS

Weights    RG    Differential
16 lb    2.50 (Low)    .071 (High)
15 lb    2.51 (Low)    .073 (High)
14 lb    2.57 (Low)    .051 (High)
12-13 lb    2.60 (High)    .032 (Med)
Factory finish:  1000 Abralon

Track Flare Potential:  9+ Inches

Lane Condition:  Medium - Heavy Oil

Cover Stock:  Sure Gripâ„¢

Weight Block:  High density cylinder with “flip” block

Color:  Purple

D- Scale:  73 to 75

Available Weights:  12 – 16 Pounds

Logos:  Star Roto Grip, SD-73 Classic, “4 prong star” (CG) Center of Gravity, Flying RG

SKU:  BBMRSA

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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: DP3 on November 08, 2006, 06:04:20 PM
I was really hoping they didn't do this for their "specialty" release that they usually release around the holidays.  Oh well, for those that have never thrown one, you better bring some oil with you to the center to be able to get this monster up the lane.  

Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: DP3 on November 08, 2006, 06:52:05 PM
Yes, with no mods.
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: snowgimp on November 08, 2006, 07:30:17 PM
It would seem to me (not being able to find actual specs on the original) that the core and cover on the same so the only thing different would be the name (adding "classic") and perhaps the color.  I don't think Hank, Roger and the rest of the guys would put together something that woudln't be approved.
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: stormed1 on November 08, 2006, 09:03:12 PM
Actually the core is grandfathered in. That's how Ebonite was able to get the No Limit in
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: JustinWi on November 08, 2006, 11:10:50 PM
This ball scares me, my .063 Big Rig goes all the way around the ball...
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: Joe Jr on November 08, 2006, 11:22:24 PM
I'll take one. I'm still hoping for the Blue Retro though.
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: TheDude on November 08, 2006, 11:31:26 PM
Well what is this ball gonna do compare to the solid? is this going to be the midprice or the high end?

this would be the answer to the demande for stronger epic!
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: bowlingmytmouse on November 09, 2006, 05:01:59 AM
I dunno what the reasoning was for this re release. But then again if it hooks a ton, people will buy it. I am interested to see reviews on it though. With the Super Walls just most bowlers bowl on today, this ball is gonna burn up before it leaves their hand. But it may be a good fit for a long flat pattern. We'll see. I wonder if more companies are going to do this to "beat" the USBC.

BMM
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: BackToBasics on November 09, 2006, 06:53:45 AM
I hope those who are worried about it burning up realize that the .070 diff is the "potential" flare.  You can lay it out however you want to control the flare.  You'll just need longer than normals pins (5-6.25") if you are concerned about overflare.
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: rotomike on November 09, 2006, 08:24:05 AM
Please also remember that the cover is the original sure grip (tm) that will also keep the burn early fears away.  I personally am loooking forward to this release.

Don't fear the monster.
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: bowlingmytmouse on November 09, 2006, 11:26:53 AM
I'm not worried about me burning it up. I would use it for what it is intended for...OILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. LOL. But I am just reffering about the general public, I mean how many people have you seen throwing the Big one and W.O.M.B.'s on house shots where a Saturn would be more than enough ball. I have never seen this ball thrown, so I dunno what to expect. But I don't think that its something that I am anticipating. But we shall see.

BMM
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: billy2gun on November 16, 2006, 11:38:07 AM
quote:
What is the release date? Why is it not on Rotogrip.com?


It is, I was just there. Look in the discontinued ball section.

Billy
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: APheLion on November 16, 2006, 11:41:53 AM
i dont get it, why they have to make most of the balls with the purple colour? i want a heavy oil ball to be red!

im not bowling for the look but it gets boring when 5 people uses purple color balls...
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: renoatpikeville on November 16, 2006, 11:43:43 AM
Wow...Brunswick could learn from Roto-Grip. They are reintroducing a ball

because of comsumer feedback. I wonder if big B will ever reintroduce the

original Inferno due to overwhelming customer demands.

Copy RG's ideas and make a limited number of batches.

Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: AllAirForceTwice on November 17, 2006, 08:46:19 AM
quote:
It would seem to me (not being able to find actual specs on the original) that the core and cover on the same so the only thing different would be the name (adding "classic") and perhaps the color.  I don't think Hank, Roger and the rest of the guys would put together something that woudln't be approved.


Brian, this looked freakin' great coming off Tammy Boomershine's hand...

Oh yeah, she revs it more than both of us combined... LMAO.
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: nd300 on November 27, 2006, 10:32:04 AM
I have one of the originals I found on eBay a couple of years ago.My driller came up with this pattern because at that time,the house had wood lanes with 29 feet of Guardian with a short pattern and clean backends.
 It's drilled with the pin next to the ring finger,with the Cg in line with the pin and a weight hole next to the Cg marking.It clears the heads well and makes a hard left turn at 45-50 feet.As long as the backends are good,it takes out the ten.
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: charlest on November 27, 2006, 10:37:51 AM
quote:
i dont get it, why they have to make most of the balls with the purple colour? i want a heavy oil ball to be red!

im not bowling for the look but it gets boring when 5 people uses purple color balls...
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I go two-handed, and i hate stupid 10pins! cuz my 12lb spare ball hooks too much!


Not a heavy oil ball!

I thought that coverstock name looked familiar; the same cover is on the Silver Streak solid. So the SD-73 is the Silver Streak solid with a higher Rg differential. (minor tweak in the core's RG from 2.50 of the SD-73 to the SS's 2.52.)

So 'splain to me the big deal about this ....
I don't get it.
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Edited on 11/27/2006 11:31 AM
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: RyanRPS on November 28, 2006, 11:50:58 AM
Much Higher differntial to anything current... so potentially far more flare...



Ryan
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: cranker89 on November 28, 2006, 11:54:10 AM
yes, i have been waiting for this ball 2 years...

at last, my dream come true
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: cranker89 on November 28, 2006, 11:55:18 AM
when is the release date?
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: nd300 on November 28, 2006, 11:56:29 AM
Charlest,
 True about the coverstock,but remember that the SD-73 came out way before the SS.............
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 Lane#1--nothing else hits like 'em.
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: shelley on November 28, 2006, 12:20:09 PM
quote:
Actually the core is grandfathered in. That's how Ebonite was able to get the No Limit in


Cores are not "grandfathered in", balls are.  The No Limit and Visionary's Immortals are grandfathered in because the balls (not the cores) were approved prior to the rule change.  Likewise for all the other balls with high diffs that were released in the last year or so (Hammer had one or two as well).  

If cores were grandfathered in, Lane 1 could put the Cherry Bomb core in new balls.  And every other previously approved high-diff core could be put into new balls.  RG could put the Epic Battle's cover on the new SD-73 since it's the same core as the old SD-73 and it would be approved.  But it can't be, because it's a new ball, not just an old core.

SH
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: 302efi on November 28, 2006, 02:18:50 PM
quote:

Cores are not "grandfathered in", balls are.  The No Limit and Visionary's Immortals are grandfathered in because the balls (not the cores) were approved prior to the rule change.  Likewise for all the other balls with high diffs that were released in the last year or so (Hammer had one or two as well).  

If cores were grandfathered in, Lane 1 could put the Cherry Bomb core in new balls.  And every other previously approved high-diff core could be put into new balls.  RG could put the Epic Battle's cover on the new SD-73 since it's the same core as the old SD-73 and it would be approved.  But it can't be, because it's a new ball, not just an old core.

SH


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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: charlest on November 28, 2006, 04:55:11 PM
quote:
Charlest,
 True about the coverstock,but remember that the SD-73 came out way before the SS.............
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Chris
 Lane#1--nothing else hits like 'em.


Still, it's either Sure-Grip or it's not. On Roto-Grip's website, the SS is listed as having the same named Sure Grip cover.

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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: DP3 on November 28, 2006, 05:23:30 PM
FYI, I have thrown both of these with the same drilling and they are worlds apart.  The SD-73 is softer and stronger coverwise.  It grabs much sooner than the SS cover due to the sanded surface.  I believe the SS Solid is also a touch harder on the durometer.  The SD-73 is about 5 feet earlier and 5-7 boards more aggressive.  This ball should give people a reactive symmetrical look in heavier volumes of oil without having to go to the Epic line while still being much different than the Horizon Solid.  I should have mine before the holiday so I will let you all know how it is.  I am planning on using a 6" pin to PAP distance with a hole on my PAP.  That should still give me about 3" of flare and help me tone down the angle on the backend that I am seeing with all of my other Rotos.
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: rotomike on November 28, 2006, 05:26:46 PM
The release date is slated for Dec 15th.
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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: rotomike on November 28, 2006, 05:26:52 PM
The release date is slated for Dec 15th.
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Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Kingdom member for life
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: rotomike on November 28, 2006, 05:26:56 PM
The release date is slated for Dec 15th.
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Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Kingdom member for life
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: rotomike on November 28, 2006, 05:27:00 PM
The release date is slated for Dec 15th.
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Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Kingdom member for life
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: rotomike on November 28, 2006, 05:28:00 PM
stutter

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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: jepr0x on December 01, 2006, 04:23:50 PM
It is now on the Roto Grip wedsite under high performance.
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: BShep on December 04, 2006, 12:44:59 PM
It looks like there's a Neptune coming soon as well
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: Strapper_Squared on December 04, 2006, 01:45:46 PM
quote:
what will the price be?


I saw our distributor flyer today... these are going to be priced with the high-end equipment... $235 retail...  
Same original cylinder looking core with the solid sure-grip reactive cover...

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Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: mrbowlingnut on December 07, 2006, 12:54:37 PM
I threw this ball last night in warmup for league shot, medium heavy oil house pattern at the South Point. Being the first few shots i threw alittle slower than normal, the first 2 balls took out the 7 pin only i am right handed. Ball is stupid strong drilled pin under ring finger cg right above my thumb no weight hole. Right at 4 1/2 and 4 1/4 area for me, i moved in for a few more shots could not use this ball ball was flaring like nuts as expected. I think heavy oil for this ball is not going to be a big issue, it reacts like there is particle load in the ball. I am sure there is not but this cover will give Rotogrip staffers a ball above the Passion in strength.

Remember i am lower revs around 250 rpm's and around 18 mph, so if i am able to get this type of reaction which is very limited i am sure what the higher rev players will able to produce with this ball.

The SD-73 is easily stronger than the Epic Battle which i have 2 of them and much much stronger than the Horizon Solid. Since it was only about 7 total shots and i was not comparing head too head i can say how much stronger than those 2 balls. I can tell you that i did throw a similarly drilled Brand new Strike Zone and it was about 6-7 boards stronger and much earlier than the Strike Zone.

I can say this ball is one of the strongest balls i have thrown, unless you need help or like too polish a ball up you might want too watch it roll first.
Title: Re: New Roto Grip
Post by: pacrat on December 11, 2006, 04:28:54 PM
Bowlingball.com has them in stock. After google checkout and entering Bowlingball.com  coupon  price is $125 shipped.  Has anyone seen a better price on the SD-73 Classic?
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