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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: Long Roller on November 08, 2006, 10:01:33 AM
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The “Classic†is back. Roto Grip is proud to announce the release of the SD-73 “Classicâ€. The ball that created the most controversy ever in the industry is back by popular demand.
The Low RG (2.50) High Differential (.075) weight block is illegal by today’s USBC standards, but since it was approved prior to the rule change it is perfectly legal for all USBC and PBA Regional competition.
The Sure Gripâ„¢ solid reactive coverstock is a performance proven winner over the last several years and is still one of the highest friction coverstocks on the market today.
FACTS CORE DYNAMICS
Weights RG Differential
16 lb 2.50 (Low) .071 (High)
15 lb 2.51 (Low) .073 (High)
14 lb 2.57 (Low) .051 (High)
12-13 lb 2.60 (High) .032 (Med)
Factory finish: 1000 Abralon
Track Flare Potential: 9+ Inches
Lane Condition: Medium - Heavy Oil
Cover Stock: Sure Gripâ„¢
Weight Block: High density cylinder with “flip†block
Color: Purple
D- Scale: 73 to 75
Available Weights: 12 – 16 Pounds
Logos: Star Roto Grip, SD-73 Classic, “4 prong star†(CG) Center of Gravity, Flying RG
SKU: BBMRSA
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Shane Soule
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I was really hoping they didn't do this for their "specialty" release that they usually release around the holidays. Oh well, for those that have never thrown one, you better bring some oil with you to the center to be able to get this monster up the lane.
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Yes, with no mods.
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It would seem to me (not being able to find actual specs on the original) that the core and cover on the same so the only thing different would be the name (adding "classic") and perhaps the color. I don't think Hank, Roger and the rest of the guys would put together something that woudln't be approved.
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Hi, my name is Brian and I'm a recovering Brunswick user. Thanks Rotogrip!
-"That Kangaroo stole my ball"
-"It's like a tire fire, trying to put it out only makes it worse. You've just gotta let it burn... grab a beer and let it burn.'
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Actually the core is grandfathered in. That's how Ebonite was able to get the No Limit in
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This ball scares me, my .063 Big Rig goes all the way around the ball...
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Check out the site!
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I'll take one. I'm still hoping for the Blue Retro though.
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- Joe
Formerly Brunswick Lefty
Banned under the user name Richard Cranium
ME throwing STORM? Yea I don't quite believe it either.
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Well what is this ball gonna do compare to the solid? is this going to be the midprice or the high end?
this would be the answer to the demande for stronger epic!
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shop
Roto-Grip Star Proshop
Staff Writer 7-10 Split Magazine,EGO Communications
Montreal, Quebec.
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I dunno what the reasoning was for this re release. But then again if it hooks a ton, people will buy it. I am interested to see reviews on it though. With the Super Walls just most bowlers bowl on today, this ball is gonna burn up before it leaves their hand. But it may be a good fit for a long flat pattern. We'll see. I wonder if more companies are going to do this to "beat" the USBC.
BMM
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Roto Grip forever!!!! What else is there??
Team Member Of
Hoss Central Inc.
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I hope those who are worried about it burning up realize that the .070 diff is the "potential" flare. You can lay it out however you want to control the flare. You'll just need longer than normals pins (5-6.25") if you are concerned about overflare.
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Please also remember that the cover is the original sure grip (tm) that will also keep the burn early fears away. I personally am loooking forward to this release.
Don't fear the monster.
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Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Kingdom member for life
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I'm not worried about me burning it up. I would use it for what it is intended for...OILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. LOL. But I am just reffering about the general public, I mean how many people have you seen throwing the Big one and W.O.M.B.'s on house shots where a Saturn would be more than enough ball. I have never seen this ball thrown, so I dunno what to expect. But I don't think that its something that I am anticipating. But we shall see.
BMM
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Roto Grip forever!!!! What else is there??
Team Member Of
Hoss Central Inc.
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What is the release date? Why is it not on Rotogrip.com?
It is, I was just there. Look in the discontinued ball section.
Billy
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"Danny...A flute without holes is not a flute, and a donut without a hole is a danish..Na.na.na.na..na..."
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i dont get it, why they have to make most of the balls with the purple colour? i want a heavy oil ball to be red!
im not bowling for the look but it gets boring when 5 people uses purple color balls...
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I go two-handed, and i hate stupid 10pins! cuz my 12lb spare ball hooks too much!
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Wow...Brunswick could learn from Roto-Grip. They are reintroducing a ball
because of comsumer feedback. I wonder if big B will ever reintroduce the
original Inferno due to overwhelming customer demands.
Copy RG's ideas and make a limited number of batches.
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It would seem to me (not being able to find actual specs on the original) that the core and cover on the same so the only thing different would be the name (adding "classic") and perhaps the color. I don't think Hank, Roger and the rest of the guys would put together something that woudln't be approved.
Brian, this looked freakin' great coming off Tammy Boomershine's hand...
Oh yeah, she revs it more than both of us combined... LMAO.
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Capt Dave Ingraham
2004/2006 All Air Force
Thanks Phil and Billy at Dynothane for your sponsorship of the Air Force Team!
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I have one of the originals I found on eBay a couple of years ago.My driller came up with this pattern because at that time,the house had wood lanes with 29 feet of Guardian with a short pattern and clean backends.
It's drilled with the pin next to the ring finger,with the Cg in line with the pin and a weight hole next to the Cg marking.It clears the heads well and makes a hard left turn at 45-50 feet.As long as the backends are good,it takes out the ten.
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Chris
Lane#1--nothing else hits like 'em.
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i dont get it, why they have to make most of the balls with the purple colour? i want a heavy oil ball to be red!
im not bowling for the look but it gets boring when 5 people uses purple color balls...
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I go two-handed, and i hate stupid 10pins! cuz my 12lb spare ball hooks too much!
Not a heavy oil ball!
I thought that coverstock name looked familiar; the same cover is on the Silver Streak solid. So the SD-73 is the Silver Streak solid with a higher Rg differential. (minor tweak in the core's RG from 2.50 of the SD-73 to the SS's 2.52.)
So 'splain to me the big deal about this ....
I don't get it.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Edited on 11/27/2006 11:31 AM
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Much Higher differntial to anything current... so potentially far more flare...
Ryan
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yes, i have been waiting for this ball 2 years...
at last, my dream come true
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Bowling is like Fvcking, its always the same booring stuff... in, out, in, out...
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when is the release date?
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Bowling is like Fvcking, its always the same booring stuff... in, out, in, out...
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Charlest,
True about the coverstock,but remember that the SD-73 came out way before the SS.............
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Chris
Lane#1--nothing else hits like 'em.
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Actually the core is grandfathered in. That's how Ebonite was able to get the No Limit in
Cores are not "grandfathered in", balls are. The No Limit and Visionary's Immortals are grandfathered in because the balls (not the cores) were approved prior to the rule change. Likewise for all the other balls with high diffs that were released in the last year or so (Hammer had one or two as well).
If cores were grandfathered in, Lane 1 could put the Cherry Bomb core in new balls. And every other previously approved high-diff core could be put into new balls. RG could put the Epic Battle's cover on the new SD-73 since it's the same core as the old SD-73 and it would be approved. But it can't be, because it's a new ball, not just an old core.
SH
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Cores are not "grandfathered in", balls are. The No Limit and Visionary's Immortals are grandfathered in because the balls (not the cores) were approved prior to the rule change. Likewise for all the other balls with high diffs that were released in the last year or so (Hammer had one or two as well).
If cores were grandfathered in, Lane 1 could put the Cherry Bomb core in new balls. And every other previously approved high-diff core could be put into new balls. RG could put the Epic Battle's cover on the new SD-73 since it's the same core as the old SD-73 and it would be approved. But it can't be, because it's a new ball, not just an old core.
SH
QFT
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Roto-Grip & Lane #1
When faced with a difficult situation, Jesus asks himself, "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
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Charlest,
True about the coverstock,but remember that the SD-73 came out way before the SS.............
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Chris
Lane#1--nothing else hits like 'em.
Still, it's either Sure-Grip or it's not. On Roto-Grip's website, the SS is listed as having the same named Sure Grip cover.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
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FYI, I have thrown both of these with the same drilling and they are worlds apart. The SD-73 is softer and stronger coverwise. It grabs much sooner than the SS cover due to the sanded surface. I believe the SS Solid is also a touch harder on the durometer. The SD-73 is about 5 feet earlier and 5-7 boards more aggressive. This ball should give people a reactive symmetrical look in heavier volumes of oil without having to go to the Epic line while still being much different than the Horizon Solid. I should have mine before the holiday so I will let you all know how it is. I am planning on using a 6" pin to PAP distance with a hole on my PAP. That should still give me about 3" of flare and help me tone down the angle on the backend that I am seeing with all of my other Rotos.
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The release date is slated for Dec 15th.
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Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Kingdom member for life
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The release date is slated for Dec 15th.
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Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Kingdom member for life
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The release date is slated for Dec 15th.
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Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Kingdom member for life
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The release date is slated for Dec 15th.
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Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Kingdom member for life
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stutter
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Mike Sinek
Roto Grip Pro Shop Staff
Kingdom member for life
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It is now on the Roto Grip wedsite under high performance.
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It looks like there's a Neptune coming soon as well
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what will the price be?
I saw our distributor flyer today... these are going to be priced with the high-end equipment... $235 retail...
Same original cylinder looking core with the solid sure-grip reactive cover...
S^2
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Joe Theismann's MNF idiot quote of the week:
"A ball is slicker in a dome than it is in sleet and snow."
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I threw this ball last night in warmup for league shot, medium heavy oil house pattern at the South Point. Being the first few shots i threw alittle slower than normal, the first 2 balls took out the 7 pin only i am right handed. Ball is stupid strong drilled pin under ring finger cg right above my thumb no weight hole. Right at 4 1/2 and 4 1/4 area for me, i moved in for a few more shots could not use this ball ball was flaring like nuts as expected. I think heavy oil for this ball is not going to be a big issue, it reacts like there is particle load in the ball. I am sure there is not but this cover will give Rotogrip staffers a ball above the Passion in strength.
Remember i am lower revs around 250 rpm's and around 18 mph, so if i am able to get this type of reaction which is very limited i am sure what the higher rev players will able to produce with this ball.
The SD-73 is easily stronger than the Epic Battle which i have 2 of them and much much stronger than the Horizon Solid. Since it was only about 7 total shots and i was not comparing head too head i can say how much stronger than those 2 balls. I can tell you that i did throw a similarly drilled Brand new Strike Zone and it was about 6-7 boards stronger and much earlier than the Strike Zone.
I can say this ball is one of the strongest balls i have thrown, unless you need help or like too polish a ball up you might want too watch it roll first.
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Bowlingball.com has them in stock. After google checkout and entering Bowlingball.com coupon price is $125 shipped. Has anyone seen a better price on the SD-73 Classic?
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