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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: tommyboy74 on May 18, 2012, 10:52:42 PM

Title: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: tommyboy74 on May 18, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
Roto Grip has 5 new balls coming out this summer.  One addition to the Royal line,  one Sword line ball, one Shield Line ball, and 2 balls for a brand new entry level line below the Shield line.

We know about the Defiant, and in my opinion, it's the best heavy oil ball I've thrown to date.  Yes, even more so than the Virtual Gravity Nano that I sold. 

Now it looks like the Critical Theory may be next to be replaced.  Seen on buddiesproshop.com: the Defiant Edge.  This will use a MicroBite pearl cover with the Paragon Core and is designed to be used on medium to medium-heavy oil.

Defiant Edge link: http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-3907-roto-grip-defiant-edge-bowling-ball-wwrd-71012.aspx

It will be interesting to see how this will compare with the Critical Theory.  Big difference between the new Defiant Edge and Critical is that the Critical goes with the sanded 4000AB finish and the new Edge will go with 1500 polished.

Beyond that, it will be interesting to see if a hybrid Defiant comes out down the line.

Now, I was throwing the Nomad Dagger for a while, and it was an excellent hybrid ball in their Sword Line.  We know it was discontinued as the Outlaw and Bandit both arrived prior to this past season.  Well, RG now has a new hybrid option available.  The Berserk will use a hybrid cover along with the Camber core and will round out that line.

Berserk link:  http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-3909-roto-grip-beserk-bowling-ball-wwrd-81412.aspx

Big difference I see with this hybrid is that it will be able to handle some medium-heavy conditions, whereas the Nomad Dagger was strictly a medium oil hybrid.  That's a great thing because it will allow more flexibility on conditions when people need a little more backend pop but a not as much length as a pearl.

Those who like the Shooting Star or Rising Star will now have a new option in the Shield line.  The Shatter will use the Neutron core but have a pearl cover that is going to be a touch weaker than the existing Rising Star.

Shatter link:  http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-3908-roto-grip-shatter-bowling-ball-wwrd-81412.aspx


Now for those who liked the Dark Star being able to handle the dry and didn't like when there was no option once the Rising Star came out or for those who have thrown the Grenade but wished there was something a little stronger,  Roto Grip has finally decided to come out with a light oil ball.  Not just one light oil ball, but 2 of them.  This would give Roto Grip a brand new entry level lineup not seen since the Mars, Riot, and Dark Star were discontinued and something comparable to Storm's Tropical Heat lineup. 

The Shout is the new light oil solid reactive.  The Scream is a light oil pearl.  Both of these will also use the Neutron core, but feature weaker solid and pearl covers than the Shield line.

Shout link: http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-3911-roto-grip-shout-bowling-ball-wwrd-81412.aspx

Scream link:  http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-3910-roto-grip-scream-bowling-ball-wwrd-81412.aspx
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: The_Future on May 19, 2012, 05:10:23 PM
Im not sure ive ever been so excited about a series of releases from storm and roto. The shield line has been an AMAZING value. and a great line for many people and styles. im sure these will add to that great success. I also believe for those that want to stick to mainly roto, it gives them more options to make a more complete line.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: Coach Bonesaw on May 19, 2012, 05:13:16 PM
I dunno much about these balls, but they've gotta be some of the ugliest designs I've ever seen, hahaha
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on May 19, 2012, 05:19:49 PM
Ugly is "in"!
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: tommyboy74 on May 19, 2012, 05:45:26 PM
I know what you mean about ugly...especially with the Berserk color combo. 

One thing I did notice is that RG seems to have stopped using names like Inception and MicroBite for all of the new cover releases except the Defiant Edge.  All the other new balls went to a number and lettering system similar to how Track names their products.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: Cobalt Bomb on May 19, 2012, 06:17:26 PM
I noticed the numbering thing too. I guess we'll still try to equate them with Reactor, R2S, R3X, etc., no matter what RG does.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: Jesse James on May 19, 2012, 06:18:22 PM
These balls are no uglier than my Mercury, which used to just sit on my rack totally useless, but as of late I have found it to be an absolute life saver in multiple houses that I play in! So if they are as usefull or an upgrade from this ball, these ball wills become automatic "keepers" on most typical house shots. Way to go RG!!
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: lhooker on May 19, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
Have been wanting something like the shout/scream for awhile, as I often jackpot with guys and the lanes burn up quick and the guys with no hand start to dominate when they dry out. You guys are right, these are some UGLY ball designs, sheesh. Very interested in that Berserk also because I love my Outlaw and Bandit.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: djones on May 19, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
Kinda looks like RG is numbering coverstock strength similar to 900G/AMF. I would sure like to see the Rotary Core back. Hard to beat that strong symmetric core.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: Metal_rules on May 19, 2012, 11:44:57 PM
From what I see it looks like the Theory line is done. I will like to see a comparison between the Defiant Edge and the Critical Theory. i really like my C/T, and by the fall will need to replace it possibly with the Edge or another C/T? I may also be interested in the Shatter, i need something just under my Rising Star.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: clt2244 on May 20, 2012, 12:59:36 AM
I as well have been waiting for something below the Rising Star/Dark Star line for awhile.....I wished they brought the Orbiter Core back but we shall see how weak the Scream/Shout really is....
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: delpzooka on May 20, 2012, 06:30:18 PM
I just picked up my first rotogrip ball the bandit and I must say I am impressed, I will definitely look at some of their new stuff coming out this summer.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: tommyboy74 on May 20, 2012, 07:37:07 PM
I just picked up my first rotogrip ball the bandit and I must say I am impressed, I will definitely look at some of their new stuff coming out this summer.

I personally like everything that I have thrown from Roto so far.  Storm has good stuff, and I enjoy my Hy-Road.  However, it took a few different surfaces and some redrills to make the VG Nano and Anarchy work the way I wanted it to.  The Roto stuff just tends to match my game better overall.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: delpzooka on May 20, 2012, 08:52:20 PM
I definitely would like to get the defiant edge and maybe the berserker if I can get past the ugly colors.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: ImBackInTheGame on May 21, 2012, 09:34:40 AM
Same color scheme on the Defiant Edge as the Cell Pearl.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: charlest on May 21, 2012, 10:30:27 AM
I as well have been waiting for something below the Rising Star/Dark Star line for awhile.....I wished they brought the Orbiter Core back but we shall see how weak the Scream/Shout really is....

When I saw the Shout and Scream had the same core as the Star balls, I wondered how weak they could be.
BUT then,
I just looked more closely at the description on Buddies web site: their differential is MUCH, much lower at .022" compared to the Star's .042". That should help them hook a lot less and handle more dry. Yet, as you imply, the telling will be in how much dry the new coverstock can handle.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: clt2244 on May 21, 2012, 02:52:19 PM
Yea I noticed the numbers but it seems every new release is stronger than the ball it replaces. The numbers on the Scream arent that far off the Neptune numbers so it performs close to it, it will be a great addition to the line.
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: BeerMug on May 21, 2012, 05:26:24 PM
What about the Dark Theory that is on the approved list? Guess its overseas
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: The_Future on May 23, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
I as well have been waiting for something below the Rising Star/Dark Star line for awhile.....I wished they brought the Orbiter Core back but we shall see how weak the Scream/Shout really is....

When I saw the Shout and Scream had the same core as the Star balls, I wondered how weak they could be.
BUT then,
I just looked more closely at the description on Buddies web site: their differential is MUCH, much lower at .022" compared to the Star's .042". That should help them hook a lot less and handle more dry. Yet, as you imply, the telling will be in how much dry the new coverstock can handle.


look at the disk at the bottom of the core, different colors in pictures makes me bet its a different weight/density/composite making it weaker
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: rotogrip_rick on June 02, 2012, 06:24:43 PM
I think we needed the "kick in the pants" with the new releases.... We Are Roto Grip DARN IT... We are more on the "EDGE" then any other ball company out there. We love progressive cores and KICK BUTT cover stocks...  Colors catches people's eyes... Good or Bad they will pull people in in... Does the Storm Frantic come to mind when it came out with such bright colors??? Number 1 selling ball of the year!!!
Cannot wait to drill mine when they arrive this up coming weeks and as usual I will post my reviews on here and on facebook... You can friend me on facebook, just look up Roto Grip Rick.............
Title: Re: New summer Roto Grip releases
Post by: tommyboy74 on June 03, 2012, 08:36:49 PM
Just like the colors on the Defiant.  It's not the prettiest ball ever made, but it's performance makes it the best damn heavy oil ball I have ever thrown.  That core and cover match up so well with my game and I found it to be really versatile on multiple conditions, which is a bonus.  Plus, it doesn't die on the backend like my VG Nano did, which would leave me with nasty solid splits or bad carry.

It will be interesting to see what the Defiant Edge can do.  Then, if RG can come out with a hybrid version, that would be 1 awesome line.