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AlonzoHarris

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No Rules Exist...
« on: May 19, 2017, 02:26:28 PM »
The hybrid release??...hmm
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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2017, 09:50:47 PM »
Yeah that's exactly how it works actually.  Or that's the intent anyway. 

Roto pushes it a bit.  Storm makes really safe stuff, stuff that's going to be good for a lot of people on a lot of conditions.  Roto goes for a bit more specific reactions.  The Trick isn't something that's going to be great for the average league bowler on the average house shot, but it's the best tournament ball on the market right now.  Both No Rules don't do anything exciting, they're just really solid.  HP2 line is ALL OVER THE PLACE.  Until they discontinued the Hectic and Wrecker, you could literally make a pretty solid "arsenal" just out of that line.  If it was food, Roto would be big flavors, and Storm would be bar food. 

A urethane Hustle would be cool. Schlem did say it's a cover nobody has seen... But yeah I wouldn't bet on it.

I don't know what it is but Roto Grip's lineup is consistently one of the most interesting to me.

Well i have always thought that the storm and roto lines fit in between each other myself. 

The brands are not as simple as they used to be though....they're getting quite expanded now lol.

Like the hp2 would fit "typically" in-between storms hot line and thunder line. Then hp3 then master...

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Thunder
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Not every ball fits this like the wrecker being much stronger than an hp2 ball or thunder even.
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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2017, 09:56:11 PM »
Yeah that's exactly how it works actually.  Or that's the intent anyway. 

Roto pushes it a bit.  Storm makes really safe stuff, stuff that's going to be good for a lot of people on a lot of conditions.  Roto goes for a bit more specific reactions.  The Trick isn't something that's going to be great for the average league bowler on the average house shot, but it's the best tournament ball on the market right now.  Both No Rules don't do anything exciting, they're just really solid.  HP2 line is ALL OVER THE PLACE.  Until they discontinued the Hectic and Wrecker, you could literally make a pretty solid "arsenal" just out of that line.  If it was food, Roto would be big flavors, and Storm would be bar food. 

A urethane Hustle would be cool. Schlem did say it's a cover nobody has seen... But yeah I wouldn't bet on it.

I don't know what it is but Roto Grip's lineup is consistently one of the most interesting to me.

Well i have always thought that the storm and roto lines fit in between each other myself. 

The brands are not as simple as they used to be though....they're getting quite expanded now lol.

Like the hp2 would fit "typically" in-between storms hot line and thunder line. Then hp3 then master...

Tropical
Hp1
Hot
Hp2
Thunder
Hp3
Master
Hp4
Premier



Not every ball fits this like the wrecker being much stronger than an hp2 ball or thunder even.

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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #63 on: June 13, 2017, 08:48:33 AM »
I have thrown it on sport shots as well. I don't see the step down that it should be. And even on a house shot where there is more oil in the middle, it should not be making a similar turn to the Code Black. Not when one is supposed to be for medium to heavy oil and the other should be for light oil... at least what they are selling it as.

Again, pretty good ball, but not a light oil piece. And I'm certainly not the only one seeing it.


I like my Hustle POW (shot 729 out of the box at a tournament), but it is much stronger than advertised. It isn't much of a step down from my Code Black, NRP, Daredevil and Trick. Certainly not a ball down during my summer league. Mine isn't even drilled strong. I still need a true light oil ball or two.

Stop yourself. This is where the line gets blurred on house vs something that shows the true difference between bowling balls. To say there isn't much of a step down from a NRP or a DDT to a Hustle is false and I'd argue reckless to even suggest such a claim.

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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #64 on: June 13, 2017, 09:58:16 AM »
I have thrown it on sport shots as well. I don't see the step down that it should be. And even on a house shot where there is more oil in the middle, it should not be making a similar turn to the Code Black. Not when one is supposed to be for medium to heavy oil and the other should be for light oil... at least what they are selling it as.

Again, pretty good ball, but not a light oil piece. And I'm certainly not the only one seeing it.


I like my Hustle POW (shot 729 out of the box at a tournament), but it is much stronger than advertised. It isn't much of a step down from my Code Black, NRP, Daredevil and Trick. Certainly not a ball down during my summer league. Mine isn't even drilled strong. I still need a true light oil ball or two.

Stop yourself. This is where the line gets blurred on house vs something that shows the true difference between bowling balls. To say there isn't much of a step down from a NRP or a DDT to a Hustle is false and I'd argue reckless to even suggest such a claim.

My point is on house balls are generally sucked back to the pocket.
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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2017, 12:05:01 PM »
Looks like the hot cell will be the only one we won't get as all others were officially announced today

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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2017, 12:46:56 PM »
Hot Cell is in there.   Urethane coverstock over the Nucleus core

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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #67 on: June 13, 2017, 12:49:30 PM »
Ibrandbowling on Instagram has photos of all the new ones.

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« Reply #68 on: June 13, 2017, 01:03:32 PM »
Did anyone else see this coming from Roto? Stronger No Rules and a n HP2 ball with the OG No Rules cover? Wow.
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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2017, 01:15:38 PM »
The Hustle Ink looks like an !Q Tour Solid.

If the Hot Cell is a urethane... whoa. That would be a bold move.

Stronger No Rules isn't a big surprise considering what they did internationally.

Show Off has the No Rules cover? On a HP2 core? Hmm... they were missing a solid in that line, but to go that strong is surprising. But the Hustle Ink should cover the medium-low solid reaction so it fits.

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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #70 on: June 13, 2017, 01:58:04 PM »
My point is on house balls are generally sucked back to the pocket.

Oh, I definitely agree with you.

I'm sure some crankers will see more difference in balls from top to bottom than I will - as someone who mainly plays straighter, but I would still like to see a little more separation than I am seeing. I still need to get a light oil ball now that I've sold pretty much everything except Storm/RG. Still have the purple and black Hammer urethanes. Thought about the Match Ups, but they look like they could be similar to the Hustles. 
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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2017, 04:04:44 PM »
These are the type of releases that can send companies into bowling purgatory.
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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #72 on: June 13, 2017, 04:40:18 PM »
These are the type of releases that can send companies into bowling purgatory.

A lot of Storm and Roto is used in my area of Southern Utah but I don't see any of these 4 selling well around me

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« Reply #73 on: June 13, 2017, 04:45:11 PM »
The Hustle Ink looks like an !Q Tour Solid.

If the Hot Cell is a urethane... whoa. That would be a bold move.

Stronger No Rules isn't a big surprise considering what they did internationally.

Show Off has the No Rules cover? On a HP2 core? Hmm... they were missing a solid in that line, but to go that strong is surprising. But the Hustle Ink should cover the medium-low solid reaction so it fits.

The showoff is the same relationship that the hyper cell and haywire had. HOW is that suprising...they even wrote it on the wall for us...by discontinuing the haywire.

Makes sense now
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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2017, 05:02:37 PM »
Where are you all seeing this information?  I don't see it on their site or on Facebook... 
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Re: No Rules Exist...
« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2017, 07:53:55 PM »
The Hustle Ink looks like an !Q Tour Solid.

If the Hot Cell is a urethane... whoa. That would be a bold move.

Stronger No Rules isn't a big surprise considering what they did internationally.

Show Off has the No Rules cover? On a HP2 core? Hmm... they were missing a solid in that line, but to go that strong is surprising. But the Hustle Ink should cover the medium-low solid reaction so it fits.

The showoff is the same relationship that the hyper cell and haywire had. HOW is that suprising...they even wrote it on the wall for us...by discontinuing the haywire.

Makes sense now

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