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Storm269

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Nomad@4000 polished
« on: March 04, 2010, 02:27:16 AM »
Can the above be used for lighter side of medium or when my polished Reign of Fire is too much ball ? Please advise...thanks !
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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 10:58:26 AM »
Wouldn't a Furious with light polish accomplish the same thing?
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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 11:07:40 AM »
I agree.  If you want something for lighter side of mediums, why not get a lighter side of mediums ball?  Does it have to be Storm/Roto?  I would look at something in the $130.00 price point like a Freeze or Emerald Vibe and call it a day.  You need something with a weaker core for lighter conditions.

If it has to be a Utah ball, a Fast or Furious would work depending on the look you want.  Furious for smoother reaction, Fast for more backend reaction.
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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 11:12:11 AM »
In his profile  "Hi I am a lefty power stroker with faster speed but lower rev. Normal line of attack is the outer line."

That maybe why he is asking about a stronger ball....just a thought.  RoF is pretty strong to start...ball down could be a Solid Nomad at P4000 for a lefty with high speed.
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RamenRules

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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 11:21:49 AM »
Since you mentioned the Solid Nomad, I thought you were looking for a solid and not a pearl. Scott may be right about your style though. A stronger core ball polished at 4000 might get you what you're looking than a light polished ball with a weaker core.

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I would think the Fast would be the better choice, since the Furious is a solid.

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Wouldn't a Furious with light polish accomplish the same thing?

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Storm269

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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 03:46:29 PM »
Thanks guys for your comment and recomendation. I was thinking since I already have the Nomad solid so if possile, I would like to play around with the surface and make it a lighter medium ball rather then to spend and get a new ball. I will go with the polished 4000 then...thanks again !
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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 03:50:34 PM »
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I will go with the polished 4000 then...thanks again !


Wondering what you mean by 4000 polished.  How do you achieve that surface?
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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2010, 05:10:56 PM »
I currently use my Nomad Solid at 4k w/polish as the first piece out of the bag.  For me it really plays more for mediums, than medium light.  Hopefully with your speed it will work for what you want.  Never hurts to try.
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Storm269

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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2010, 06:04:09 PM »
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I will go with the polished 4000 then...thanks again !


Wondering what you mean by 4000 polished.  How do you achieve that surface?
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I mean 4000 with polished.
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charlest

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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2010, 06:13:25 PM »
Stock surface is only P3000 grit (1500 grit US/CAMI) polished. So P4000 grit + polish is not a huge difference. Add in a very weak drilling and maybe you'll have somehtign  you can use.
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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2010, 06:23:56 PM »
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Stock surface is only P3000 grit (1500 grit US/CAMI) polished. So P4000 grit + polish is not a huge difference. Add in a very weak drilling and maybe you''ll have somehtign  you can use.
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Im not going to say I''m 100% correct on this BUT one day I emailed storm about step #2 polish compound and storm told me that 1500 grit polished is based on the P scale!

and I believe 1500 grit US/CAMI is = ~ P4000
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charlest

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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2010, 08:46:30 PM »
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Stock surface is only P3000 grit (1500 grit US/CAMI) polished. So P4000 grit + polish is not a huge difference. Add in a very weak drilling and maybe you''ll have somehtign  you can use.
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Im not going to say I''m 100% correct on this BUT one day I emailed storm about step #2 polish compound and storm told me that 1500 grit polished is based on the P scale!

and I believe 1500 grit US/CAMI is = ~ P4000
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Interesting. They should get their story straight. I was lead to believe it's 1500 grit US/CAMI.
As far as I have learned:
1500 grit CAMI ~ P3000 grit
2000 grit CAMI ~ P4000 grit
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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2010, 09:22:53 PM »
From Mike Sargent RG/Storm tech.  How to get Nomad Solid to OOB surface.  I have done this on all 1500 polished from Visionary to Storm/RG and find it's as close as I have found to OOB.  Note times-seconds/sides/abrasive used.  ONLY thing that is left up to the user is pressure.  Thgis is the best way I have found after various trys.

"The Nomad Solid is 1500 grit polished, here is the resurfacing process for 1500 polished.

 

500 grit Abralon pad – sand for 15 seconds on 4 sides of the ball

Grey Scotch Brite pad – sand for 40 seconds on 4 sides of the ball

Storm Step 2 Compound – polish lightly for 15 seconds on 2 sides of the ball"
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charlest

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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2010, 07:10:14 AM »
icewall,

Given Scott's description of Storm's procedure, I still have to say that I believe it's 1500 grit CAMI polished, because the grey pad is 800 grit CAMI (roughly P1600 grit FEPA) and the Step2 compound is an aggressive abrasive compound that will further abrade the 800 grit CAMI to a much finer grit level while adding the final polish.

Also in my experience other manufacturers polsihed balls, specifically the old Columbia300 and the new 900Global/AMF are finished to 2000 grit polish. Their pearls, like Storm's/RG's, attain very similar lengths out of the box, in my experience (which, of course, is not the final say).

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Re: Nomad@4000 polished
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2010, 03:21:22 PM »
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icewall,

Given Scott's description of Storm's procedure, I still have to say that I believe it's 1500 grit CAMI polished, because the grey pad is 800 grit CAMI (roughly P1600 grit FEPA) and the Step2 compound is an aggressive abrasive compound that will further abrade the 800 grit CAMI to a much finer grit level while adding the final polish.

Also in my experience other manufacturers polsihed balls, specifically the old Columbia300 and the new 900Global/AMF are finished to 2000 grit polish. Their pearls, like Storm's/RG's, attain very similar lengths out of the box, in my experience (which, of course, is not the final say).

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I did some deep thinking about this today.

first off the ego can be really strong sometimes. I started thinking "lets see how I can prove him wrong" (at least I admit it)

However, the more I thought about the more I realize that you are correct charlest. I always wondered that if 1500 grit polished was P scale. then how does ebonite get away with 4000 grit P polished??? no way their covers are that strong.

then I thought. hmmm if 1500 grit polished is US/cami and 1500 grit cami is = to 4000 on the P scale (according to bowlers grit chart) then that makes MUCH more sense!

Im going to take my t-road pearl to 500/4000 polished with me. should go longer then grey pad plus polish but react more like OOB. And yes charlest... technically 500/4000 really doesnt equate to a "true" 4000 grit surface. (i know you would warn me on that)
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