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Title: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: jbuzz31 on July 06, 2009, 07:10:07 AM
I noticed the nomads have a slightly high RG and as well the pictures do not depict any filler whereas the Cells and Illusions depict filler in the ball pictures. Does anybody know whether this is the case or not?or just a online picture lol.
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: bowlerdawg on July 06, 2009, 03:32:42 PM
noticed that also, and would like the skinny on it also
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on July 06, 2009, 03:50:14 PM
Good eye in catching that.  I'm curious as well...
Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: no300tj on July 06, 2009, 03:50:50 PM
The original Silver Streaks didn't have filler, so I hope these are the same way.
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on July 06, 2009, 03:51:53 PM
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The original Silver Streaks didn't have filler, so I hope these are the same way.

I did not know that...Maybe that is one of the reasons why they hit so darn hard.
Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: jbuzz31 on July 06, 2009, 04:14:26 PM
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The original Silver Streaks didn't have filler, so I hope these are the same way.



Good info to have.

I think thats how they are able to get away with having a fairly high RG (2.55) and high diff (.055)
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Steve Richter on July 06, 2009, 04:35:25 PM
There IS NOT a wrap in this ball.  Storm is also coming out with the Reign which will not have one either.
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: bowlingmytmouse on July 06, 2009, 07:46:36 PM
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Maybe that is one of the reasons why they hit so darn hard


And the reason why there were so few cases with cracking...
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: jbuzz31 on July 07, 2009, 07:51:57 AM
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There IS NOT a wrap in this ball.


Sweeeeeeeeeeeet
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Danes07 on July 07, 2009, 08:23:10 AM
Now I'm really interested to try the Nomad Solid....ball looks good and I'm interested to try a ball without filler...see what it does for me.
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Steve Richter on July 07, 2009, 01:10:10 PM
Keep in mind Nomad solids come with shiny cover for shelf appeal only.  I'm going to knock mine down to my favorite surface when I drill it this week...More info and a report to come if I get a chance to throw them before Friday.
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Joe Jr on July 07, 2009, 09:47:56 PM
The Thunderstruck pearls had filler.
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on July 07, 2009, 11:49:47 PM
My Silver Streak SE shows that in drilling the weight hole, we went through about 2 inches of shell before drilling into the core - no filler. This would be one of the advantages of large volume cores you can get a thicker shell. Another would be to reduce the number of steps in production. A third advantage would be thicker shells typically give you a higher coefficient of restitution (COA).
Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: J_Mac on July 08, 2009, 12:00:15 AM
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The Thunderstruck pearls had filler.
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I think you're mistaken, but it's possible that this was the case in the lighter weight Thunderstrucks.
Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Joe Jr on July 08, 2009, 09:15:38 AM
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The Thunderstruck pearls had filler.
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I think you're mistaken, but it's possible that this was the case in the lighter weight Thunderstrucks.


I have 2 in my closet, they definitely have filler.
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Dan Belcher on July 08, 2009, 09:31:18 AM
I know the Fire line of balls (Fired Up, Spitfire, etc.) had no filler thanks to their large cores as well.
Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: J_Mac on July 08, 2009, 11:15:48 AM
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The Thunderstruck pearls had filler.
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I think you're mistaken, but it's possible that this was the case in the lighter weight Thunderstrucks.


I have 2 in my closet, they definitely have filler.
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So the coverstock is only ~1/2" thick everywhere there is a hole?
Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: themagician on July 08, 2009, 11:33:37 AM
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The Thunderstruck pearls had filler.
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I think you're mistaken, but it's possible that this was the case in the lighter weight Thunderstrucks.


I have 2 in my closet, they definitely have filler.
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So the coverstock is only ~1/2" thick everywhere there is a hole?


My Thunderstruck solid has a different depth of coverstock at each hole, I'd have to go get it from the pro shop and look to see if its filler or core below but it looked odd when drilling it.
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: J_Mac on July 08, 2009, 11:42:30 AM

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So the coverstock is only ~1/2" thick everywhere there is a hole?


My Thunderstruck solid has a different depth of coverstock at each hole, I'd have to go get it from the pro shop and look to see if its filler or core below but it looked odd when drilling it.
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That's all I needed to know.  

As far as I'm concerned it's a ball without filler then and like most of the Storm balls without filler the core numbers in 14# drop off significantly.
Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: Joe Jr on July 08, 2009, 11:46:34 AM
I'll check when i get home to see if the depth is the same at the fingers and the weight hole to make sure it's not the core. Honestly I didn't really think, I saw material in the weight hole and the fingers and just assumed.
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Title: Re: Nomads......No filler?
Post by: J_Mac on July 08, 2009, 11:54:59 AM
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I'll check when i get home to see if the depth is the same at the fingers and the weight hole to make sure it's not the core. Honestly I didn't really think, I saw material in the weight hole and the fingers and just assumed.
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In comparison to the Fired Up, the cover on the Thunderstruck is thinner in places since the core is much larger in them.  I've seen balance holes in a Twin V cored ball that don't hit the core until they are more than 2" deep.

That's not going to happen on the Thunderstruck, that core is just too round.

Sorry for the hijack, but I think the OP's question was already answered... LOL