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agroves

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Odyssey......sigh
« on: November 20, 2007, 01:56:18 PM »
Okay, expecting this ball to be a big boomer, I purchased it and punched it up.  

I drilled it:

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4 1/2 pin to pap SLIGHTLY above and to the right of my ring, 60* layout.  I've tried this ball at box(2000), 1000 and 2000+polish.  I'm just not that satisified with it.  It is a good ball, don't get me wrong, but isn't "WOW".  My raging red fuze is more angular that this is.  I drilled this ball up specifically to have that one big backend ball.  

With all that said, our house shot is pretty slick across the board.  Everybody with speed is using sanded, fine or otherwise, and only the extremely heavy handed guys are playing around the 3rd arrow.  I will try the ball at another house before I make the final judgement, but right now I'm not all that thrilled.

I figured this ball would allow me to move alittle left and bump the "track area" but it really hasn't.  Honestly, it could be my style, b/c I haven't found anything that has worked week in and week out yet.  I've tried the following:  see profile, I've tried them all.  If I sand something down to read the lane earlier, it does and hits like a marshmallow and if I polish something it squirts.....

Ugh....

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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2007, 08:30:45 PM »
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....4 1/2 pin to pap SLIGHTLY above and to the right of my ring, 60* layout.  I've tried this ball at box(2000), 1000 and 2000+polish.  I'm just not that satisified with it.  It is a good ball, don't get me wrong, but isn't "WOW".  My raging red fuze is more angular that this is.  I drilled this ball up specifically to have that one big backend ball.  
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Well a solid is never going to be too angular.

I shot a 299 with mine on a Sport shot this summer. Similar pin and MB to yours, more of a 75* layout. Great ball for the right condition!
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agroves

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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2007, 11:07:47 PM »
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Andrew,

Didn't you have a problem with a Immortal Solid drilled much the same?  Just wondering.
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Actually, yes I did.  I'm beginning to believe that strong assy cores aren't any good for me.


Toomanytenpins, see profile.

pjr300, a solid can't be angular?  You should see my raging red fuze.  For some bowlers with higher speeds, the best angular ball is a solid resin drilled somewhat aggresive and then polished.

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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2007, 11:14:19 PM »
Here is what else I learned today.

The ball performs in carrydown, which makes me think the ball needs some polish for the house shot.  But, when I polish it for the house shot it becomes a dart.  I am trying 500 with polish tomorrow.  Depending on the result from that I'm gonna try 4000 no polish, if that doesn't help I don't know if I'm gonna keep it.

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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2007, 11:18:51 PM »
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Andrew,

Didn't you have a problem with a Immortal Solid drilled much the same?  Just wondering.
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Actually, yes I did.  I'm beginning to believe that strong assy cores aren't any good for me.


Toomanytenpins, see profile.

pjr300, a solid can't be angular?  You should see my raging red fuze.  For some bowlers with higher speeds, the best angular ball is a solid resin drilled somewhat aggresive and then polished.

Andrew


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  I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure the raging red fuze was a pearl ball......

  Could it have been one of those covers ( like the Smash/R ) that looked pearl but actually wasn't?
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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2007, 04:50:47 AM »
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  I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure the raging red fuze was a pearl ball......

  Could it have been one of those covers ( like the Smash/R ) that looked pearl but actually wasn't?



According to bwicks site, it doesn't say anything about being pearl.  It is an "aggressive reactive cover based on the popluar powerkoil 18 coverstock".

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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2007, 07:06:48 AM »
Raging Red was PK18Pearl.
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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2007, 10:59:16 AM »
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Raging Red was PK18Pearl.
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I guess we'll take your word for it.

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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2007, 09:23:31 PM »
Used it again today on our house shot with some carrydown.  The surface was 500 plus polish.  It is starting to get better.  I shot about 700 with it today.  I was able to see the core spin up quick and then it just arc'd on the backend.  I might find a place for this ball after all.  

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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2007, 07:22:06 AM »
Personally, I would think that for the conditions that the E.O. is intended for, no one should really expect "angular". Heavy oil balls generally, by nature, are designed for longer oil or heavier oil patterns with little or no backend. If there is backend on the lane, I wouldn't bother picking up this kind of ball. Might be better going with the Illusion.

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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2007, 05:22:09 PM »
as far as scoring goes ,what does angularity have to do with it. It to me is like having different gym shoes and saying one pair makes your jump shot better. If i throw the ball and it has an angular reaction i play it for what it has,if it has a strong arch i play that. Or does and angular ball strike more than a strong arch, i will take my hard arching odyssey any day.
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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2007, 10:42:44 PM »
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as far as scoring goes ,what does angularity have to do with it. It to me is like having different gym shoes and saying one pair makes your jump shot better. If i throw the ball and it has an angular reaction i play it for what it has,if it has a strong arch i play that. Or does and angular ball strike more than a strong arch, i will take my hard arching odyssey any day.
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Angularity can play a certain part in carry.  My issue is I drilled this ball expecting a certain reaction, but due to my choice in layout or perhaps my style it doesn't work for me.  Oh well, I certainly not bashing the ball by any means.  Sometimes we find balls that just don't work for us and this happens to be one for me.

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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2007, 10:57:47 PM »
I sure agree with you Andrew.  Angular reaction on the right condition with the right ball and technique can carry well.

Yep, we sure don't match up with every ball out there.  Takes a big person to say that they aren't doing well with so and so ball with all the yes men around BR.com.  I've gotta say my favorite company and I over the last few balls don't match up either.  Least I don't have a lot of $$$ invested.  


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Re: Odyssey......sigh
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2007, 07:45:55 AM »
Off topic, why would your driller put the pin in such an obvious crack position?  Partially in both the finger and weight holes?  Drilling it out completely by putting it in the ring finger seems like a better choice?
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