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LuckyLefty

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Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« on: January 23, 2014, 09:15:38 PM »
I have been mostly using a pin up Mission X with good results and a pin up Columbia Freeze this year (good results occasionally).

Often as the backends have been a little stronger my Mission X has been leaving me 6 pins as the backend has been a little sharp!

I believed a symmetric could work but the Freeze has been a little skittish alternating between 8 strike games and 1 or 2 strike games with humungous looking 9s!  All balls smashing the pocket.

I reasoned maybe a pin up Solid would work nicely for control of the fronts and smoothness.  Today the Grand Illusion had a beautiful combo of smoothness and creating beautiful angle and hit at the pocket that allowed a couple of simple strike filled games.  Hmmmm, first impression.  me Like!

Been sitting in a box for a couple of years!

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« Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 10:31:51 PM by LuckyLefty »
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2014, 07:52:03 AM »
I too still have a Grand Illusion I throw . Great  ball, takes cover changes well...
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2014, 12:31:10 AM »
Thanks Tloy!  I was lovin mine today!

Anyone have an opinion regarding the Disturbed vs this old Jewel.

To me the Disturbed looks like a slightly stronger cover than the Grand's Ultimate Vision which is smooth but quite strong.  The Disturbed appears to have similar specs on its core but looks like quite a strong cover?

Your thoughts?

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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2014, 02:14:05 AM »
The cores look similar and the the disturbed cover is stonger...LL you seem to be making pretty sound assumptions!
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2014, 07:39:13 AM »
Disturbed is earlier and quite a bit stronger.
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2014, 10:00:19 AM »
Vkowal, and Bill Dozer.

Many times this Grand Illusion un weightholed and pin to pap of about 4 3/4 is just a little less than ideal for my sort of wet headed house with sloppy but jumpy if that can be pictured.

Touchy breakpoint(that's why all solids), and yet good strong pretty modern coverstocks needed to strike or assymetrics.

However yesterday more backend and I laid 10 of them on them in the last(smashers).

I have been thinking of one of these weight holed to increase flare a tad(a la Just rico).

Based on other posts out here I am concerned about the Disturbed with Polish.
It seems most doen't have great success with coverstock adjustments to it!

Please advice on coverstock adjustments to the Disturbed.  Thanks.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2014, 11:39:36 AM »
Zero gravity! Drilled mine yesterday. Cleaner than disturbed but great punch on back!
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2014, 11:57:03 AM »
In general I like smooth.

ZG Reminds me of what I have seen so far more of my sons old Hot Rod Super Sport Pearl(not very pearly).  A very smooth powerful slight asymmetric.

Let me know more about polishing the disturbed.

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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2014, 12:00:48 PM »
I haven't polished my disturbed.
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2014, 12:23:00 PM »
VK,

Thanks,  any other comments regarding polishing a Roto Disturbed?

Regards,

Luckylefty
« Last Edit: February 22, 2014, 01:45:13 PM by LuckyLefty »
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2014, 12:50:49 PM »
VK,

How does Zero compare to asylum and disturbed?
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2014, 01:44:06 PM »
Arrrrgggghhh!

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Luckylefty
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2014, 04:37:21 PM »
The zero is much cleaner than both. Id say strength puts it above Asylum and slightly below disturbed . I've only thrown one set. I was able to use all night and just chase the oil in. I was really impressed. Very versatile is my initial opinion. Smooth hard move. Reminds me of my lights out and nomad solid but handles more oil. It's going to need some oil but not like the hyper cell or disturbed. I think it's going to be very good for me.
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2014, 04:54:14 PM »
I want to try a Lights Out terribly bad as well as the Zero but I'm LOVING my Fusion too much.

Best ball motion I've ever had hands down. Thought nothing would be better than the asylum but I think I nailed the layout on my Fusion.

Thanks for the info on the Zero!!!
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Re: Old timey Roto Grand Illusion
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2014, 08:51:20 PM »
You are welcome.

Now, back to polished RotoGrip Disturbeds.  Anyone have any ideas about that bad boy?

REgards,

Luckylefty
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