Post by: Noy on June 19, 2006, 05:47:03 PM
Heavy: Epic Battle
Medium/Heavy: Epic Saga
Medium/Light: Horizon
Light: Venus
Spare: Blue Dot (sorry bout that one)
What do you guys think of that arsenal? Im hoping to have this accomplished by the end of the year due to lack of funds. If anyone wants to dontate or sell for dirt cheap a 15lb in any of these I'd be happy to take it off your hands.
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Bowling Since March 2006
Arsenal:
Storm Agent
Doom Raw Hammer
Average: 150-160
See my bowling scores online here:
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=2038&leagueid=808
Turkey Adobo (Me and my friends' bowling site)
http://turkeyadobo.multiply.com
Post by: Traumatize on June 20, 2006, 01:56:38 AM
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Buffalo bowlers are the best all around in the country.
AMF Thruway Lanes Pro Shop employee, and I have no problem saying that I'm Officially a Ball Junkie.
Post by: cnimsk on June 20, 2006, 07:36:38 AM
Chuck
Edited on 6/20/2006 7:33 AM
Edited on 6/20/2006 7:34 AM
Post by: Laybzz74 on June 20, 2006, 07:44:51 AM
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Man, I LOVE this game; and I love it even more now that I'm using LEGENDS/LaneMasters equipment !!!
"Master the Lanes with Legendary hitting power" !!!
Robb in O'Fallon, IL 62269 (near Scott AFB)
LAYBZZ74@AOL.COM (Email and PayPal addy)
Post by: splendorlex on June 20, 2006, 08:26:02 AM
Noy, what are you doing? IF YOU KEEP BUYING BALLS AT THIS POINT YOU WILL HURT YOUR GAME MORE THAN HELP IT! You've got all you NEED in the Agent and the Doom, if you want an RG ball, pick up the Spare Tire. 
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Check out my bowling journal!
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=1792&leagueid=912
Stop trying to impress other people, people mostly care about what you're saying about them not you.
If you don't like Wrigley, you might as well leave the country and join the Taliban.
Post by: Noy on June 20, 2006, 10:42:19 AM
Now splendor, if you dont mind, id much appreciate if you stopped fillin my threads with that advice and just give an answer to whatever question i may have. Ive done the coaching, and yes it has helped me a lot, but Im a fast learner.
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Bowling Since March 2006
Arsenal:
Storm Agent
Doom Raw Hammer
Average: 150-160
See my bowling scores online here:
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=2038&leagueid=808
Turkey Adobo (Me and my friends' bowling site)
http://turkeyadobo.multiply.com
Post by: Roto-Mat on June 20, 2006, 10:46:49 AM
Medium/Heavy: Epic Saga
Medium/Light: Horizon
Light: Venus
You would find yourself in some trouble if you hit some dry lanes. All of the balls you have listed are VERY strong. How about this:
Heavy: Battle
Mediums: Saga
Medium/Light: Venus
Light(er): Saturn
Also, in response to this post: "IF YOU KEEP BUYING BALLS AT THIS POINT YOU WILL HURT YOUR GAME MORE THAN HELP IT!" I completely disagree. I had people tell me the same stuff when I was starting out, and it HURT my game instead of helping it. This game is no where near what it was long ago. The earlier that a person can learn about different cores/covers/drilling and their influence to ball reaction to different lane conditions, the better off they will be.
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Roto-Grip Staffer
Owner/Operator of
Champions Bowling Services
Post by: splendorlex on June 20, 2006, 12:16:34 PM
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Check out my bowling journal!
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=1792&leagueid=912
Stop trying to impress other people, people mostly care about what you're saying about them not you.
If you don't like Wrigley, you might as well leave the country and join the Taliban.
Post by: Noy on June 20, 2006, 12:19:40 PM
And thanks for agreeing with me on the whole arsenal tip. I agree that someone should be exposed to as many aspects of the game (or any game for that matter) as possible.
Splendorlex, I know enough when I make a bad shot and how to adjust to make the shot work for me. But I also know that when my Agent is hooking out of the house or going straight for the 7 pin on a down and in shot that a different ball is in need. Believe me, when conditions are right, I can score 30 pins over my current average, but when they're flooded (as they have been lately) and my strongest ball doesnt make more than a 2 board move, or hardly flips over, my equipment just doesnt match up to the heavy conditions.
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Bowling Since March 2006
Arsenal:
Storm Agent
Doom Raw Hammer
Average: 150-160
See my bowling scores online here:
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=2038&leagueid=808
Turkey Adobo (Me and my friends' bowling site)
http://turkeyadobo.multiply.com
Edited on 6/20/2006 12:22 PM
Post by: ImaRedbird on June 20, 2006, 12:23:17 PM
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Stop Crying, Shut Up and BOWL!!! Everybody throws gutterballs back to back at one point in their life
Getting Zero is an accomplishent that you should be proud of!!!
Post by: Noy on June 20, 2006, 12:29:02 PM
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Bowling Since March 2006
Arsenal:
Storm Agent
Doom Raw Hammer
Average: 150-160
See my bowling scores online here:
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=2038&leagueid=808
Turkey Adobo (Me and my friends' bowling site)
http://turkeyadobo.multiply.com
Post by: ImaRedbird on June 20, 2006, 03:16:09 PM
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Stop Crying, Shut Up and BOWL!!! Everybody throws gutterballs back to back at one point in their life
Getting Zero is an accomplishent that you should be proud of!!!
Post by: splendorlex on June 20, 2006, 03:22:32 PM
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Check out my bowling journal!
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=1792&leagueid=912
Stop trying to impress other people, people mostly care about what you're saying about them not you.
If you don't like Wrigley, you might as well leave the country and join the Taliban.
Post by: ImaRedbird on June 20, 2006, 04:57:47 PM
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Stop Crying, Shut Up and BOWL!!! Everybody throws gutterballs back to back at one point in their life
Getting Zero is an accomplishent that you should be proud of!!!
Post by: Big Jake on June 20, 2006, 06:18:58 PM
and...I got the "Epic" about 4 weeks ago and I am in love with that ball and infact I think that Roto-Grip is soooo good that just yesterday I ordered the
"Epic-Battle"
so now I have what I need for a great one-two punch, and let me tell ya, this Roto-Grip gear is freaking great stuff.
Later everyone and good Luck with your bowling NOY and remember the most important part of bowling is to have fun!
SJ
Post by: DP3 on June 20, 2006, 08:20:37 PM
Fuel
Rush
Assault Pearl
Retro Blue
Sonic X Pearl
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-DP3
Respect the Game
Post by: Draxond300 on June 20, 2006, 09:04:57 PM
Battle
SSSE
RS-1
Adding:
Saga (Fit between Battle and SSSE)
Spare Tire/Globe (I LOVE the Globe...gotta try and get my hands on one)
For me, the SSSE is a great ball...I love the punch it has, and it made me fall in love with the idea of the hybrid coverstock. That's why I want the Saga.
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Lightning strikes at the oddest times...
My high game? Two 300's...within two weeks of each other.
"For the money, for the glory, for the fun. Mostly for the money."
-Smokey and the Bandit
Post by: scotts33 on June 20, 2006, 09:12:29 PM
quote:
Ok Noy, last time and I'll stay out of your thread. With your inconsistent game you have now, having different balls to change you can confuse you and mask your real problems. If you get a bad reaction from a bad shot, and don't quite realize you made a bad shot, then switch to a ball that corrects the problem like training wheels, you haven't learned anything. Spend all the money you would on new balls on a spare ball and coaching.
splendorlex--Talk about calling the kettle black. I've seen the same type of threads from you over the last year or so. C'mon this kid ain't no different than most on BR. Lookin' for a game in a box.......so be it.
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Scott
Post by: cnimsk on June 20, 2006, 09:13:04 PM
Epic Battle - Heavy
Epic - medium to heavy
Oracle Wisdom (international...Oracle Vision except red instead of purple)- medium/heavy
Horizon - medium
Saturn - light to medium
Mercury - dryish
Roto Spare Tire - spares
Only problem...can't take all seven with me....only can carry six! Usually flip a coin to see whether it's the Wisdom or Epic that stay home and "rest". (Of course only use these when I'm not using my Tracks. Love both my arsenals!)
Chuck
Edited on 6/20/2006 9:10 PM
Post by: Brian Green on June 21, 2006, 12:37:30 AM
anyway on to my dream roto arsenal:
heavy: Epic Battle
heavier side of medium: Epic
Medium: Silver Streak (origional)
Lighter side of medium: horizon
dry heads with carrydown: RSP
burnt heads with dry backends: Saturn (polished)
bone dry/ spares: Spare tire
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Post by: Hammer3003 on June 21, 2006, 12:42:46 AM
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Zack Pelton
Bowl To Win!!!
Post by: bowlingmytmouse on June 21, 2006, 03:13:26 AM
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RedBird, I dont know if that was a sarcastic comment or not, but I never said I was a great bowler. I just know when different equipment is needed. And I plan on posting one soon for more help on my game.
Okay, I will reply to this and also tell you my opinion of a good arsenal. Now I am not trying to say this to be sarcastic or to put you down in manner it is just to help you. What splendorex and Redbird are saying is true. But there are a lot of aspects to the game of bowling which I am not saying are impossible to learn in 3 months, just highly unlikely. You are too new to the game to know when different equipment is needed and coming from a guy who has too many bowling balls (about 15 or so) I know what I am refferring to. You see, on most house shots you can pick up just about any bowling ball on the market and score with it. Now sure you may have to adjust, but you can still score. This is one of the most important things to learn early how to ADJUST and do it properly. After I was bowling for a couple of years I had 2 RG balls an apocalypse, a retro ressurection, both wayyy to much ball for me but I never knew it, I was scoring fairly well with them, but I sucked. The reason they were working is because they were so strong that they masked my faults at least to me. It wasn't until they were stolen that I learned how to adjust with a Storm Hot wire, it was the only ball I had for months. But to score I had to do everything 100 times better. And that is what worries me about you, is that you will make the same mistake that I did, your arsenal proposal has nothing really low end about it, the VENUS will HOOK. And the balls that you have now HOOK. If they don't then you are doing something wrong and need to work on your game, if not you will just be paying $220+ for a ball that your not getting the full potential of, and then get pissed when you see someone good throwing it and it is outhooking yours and finishing harder.
I have said my peace on that....do what you do. Now for my dream arsenal...
Heavy: Oracle
Heavy: Oracle Vision
Medium/Heavy: Apocalypse
MEdium: Silver Streak
Medium light: Silver Streak SE
Light: Sonic X solid
Now for you, if you wanna start off with RG I suggest(this has nothing to do with your storm and hammer balls)
League: Saturn
spareball
Not being funny, but thats all you need 3 months in.
BMM
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Roto Grip forever!!!! What else is there??
Edited on 6/21/2006 3:11 AM
Post by: El Capitán on June 21, 2006, 04:12:49 AM
You just started with the sport of bowling, so don't go too hog wild all of a sudden. Splendor has really sound advice.
More bowling balls does not make you a better bowler, just fyi.
Just trying to be realistic here. Don't go biting my head off.
*Edit on spelling
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The Striking King.
More Spares = 200 avg.
More Spares Plus Strikes = 220 avg.
Edited on 6/21/2006 4:09 AM
Post by: splendorlex on June 21, 2006, 07:51:00 AM
I'm bowling 98% of the time with one ball now, and have been for a few months. You were one of the guys who showed me the error of my ways, and I'm just trying to return the favor to someone else! quote:quote:
Ok Noy, last time and I'll stay out of your thread. With your inconsistent game you have now, having different balls to change you can confuse you and mask your real problems. If you get a bad reaction from a bad shot, and don't quite realize you made a bad shot, then switch to a ball that corrects the problem like training wheels, you haven't learned anything. Spend all the money you would on new balls on a spare ball and coaching.
splendorlex--Talk about calling the kettle black. I've seen the same type of threads from you over the last year or so. C'mon this kid ain't no different than most on BR. Lookin' for a game in a box.......so be it.
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Scott
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Check out my bowling journal!
http://www.allbowling.com/journal/public.php?uid=1792&leagueid=912
Stop trying to impress other people, people mostly care about what you're saying about them not you.
If you don't like Wrigley, you might as well leave the country and join the Taliban.
Post by: ImaRedbird on June 21, 2006, 05:03:18 PM
AND
Fyi, i've learned if you carry a lotta ballz and you are no good, people tend to frown up at you and give looks of disdain trust me i know from personal experience and i had 3ballz @ the time. Not puttin you down, jus telling you my experience.
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Stop Crying, Shut Up and BOWL!!! Everybody throws gutterballs back to back at one point in their life
Getting Zero is an accomplishent that you should be proud of!!!