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Title: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 03, 2016, 04:29:56 PM
What is this????? 8)
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: SVstar34 on June 03, 2016, 04:52:31 PM
Interesting... Locked until 6/29. I guess that's one way too to create hype and interest. I am curious now lol I'd assume it's going to be a new HP4 release
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: tkkshop on June 03, 2016, 04:59:09 PM
It's their new ball, called the "Motiv Jackal."
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: LyalC52 on June 03, 2016, 05:09:18 PM
its an email address grab, incoming spam

makes me want to leave my RG balls at home

damn, that more than half my arsenal
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 03, 2016, 05:29:10 PM
I like effort when they release a ball.  Too many companies are like, "here is a new edition in each line of each manufacturer, every quarter."

This ROTO gets it own website, sign me up 8)
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: suhoney24 on June 03, 2016, 07:57:31 PM
Sorry but this is really dumb, I mean I get it, hype (I guess) but all it succeeded in doing was irritating me...did they really need a website to tell you a new ball was coming at the end of June and absolutely nothing else
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 03, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Well I was just trying to share, sorry you're not excited.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: SVstar34 on June 04, 2016, 12:12:13 AM
Well I was just trying to share, sorry you're not excited.

Some people just get annoyed when a company does something different to not be stale.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: freak761 on June 04, 2016, 06:01:13 AM
Only true ball hoes appreciate the magnitude of it all! ;)
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 04, 2016, 06:13:16 AM
Only true ball hoes appreciate the magnitude of it all! ;)

I'm sorry it's better than the 8th mastermind release with just a different color cover, or another paradox lol.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: tkkshop on June 04, 2016, 07:44:51 AM
Only true ball hoes appreciate the magnitude of it all! ;)

I'm sorry it's better than the 8th mastermind release with just a different color cover, or another paradox lol.
shots fired  8)
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 04, 2016, 09:28:46 AM
Only true ball hoes appreciate the magnitude of it all! ;)

I'm sorry it's better than the 8th mastermind release with just a different color cover, or another paradox lol.
shots fired  8)

Shoot I don't care.  I'm not a staffer, I'm a consumer, and I will gladly speak my mind! I'm tossing pyramid balls better than some of the stuff coming out! Lolz
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: freak761 on June 04, 2016, 10:59:27 AM
Seriously, been throwing Storm/Roto for a long time, and bought a lot of balls. They don't usually dc that many balls from their lineup and come out with a special website unless they feel that they have something really good. Gotta love Schlem's energy and enthusiasm.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: WOWZERS on June 04, 2016, 01:30:46 PM
As a whole, the bowling community complains when the USBC or any bowling related company does the same thing over and over with diminishing results (ie, lack of sanctioned competitors, ball release after ball release, etc) and yet when a company does something different, we poo poo it. I don't get it. Darned if they do and darned if they don't.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: suhoney24 on June 04, 2016, 03:06:36 PM
i wasn't trying to be cynical...but i could do the same thing they did and give just as much info as well...ready? new ball june 29th, stay tuned...tada, i just didn't get the grand show for basically nothing at all i guess
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 04, 2016, 03:11:43 PM
i wasn't trying to be cynical...but i could do the same thing they did and give just as much info as well...ready? new ball june 29th, stay tuned...tada, i just didn't get the grand show for basically nothing at all i guess

They shoulda teased a core or something
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: suhoney24 on June 04, 2016, 08:49:58 PM
Or give you a lil tease every week till the release...something other then absolutely nothing other than a release date
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: mrwizerd on June 04, 2016, 10:19:39 PM
This is sounding awfully like how the Storm 30th anniversary ball debacle began.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 05, 2016, 09:53:38 AM
This is sounding awfully like how the Storm 30th anniversary ball debacle began.

Lol.  Rather have them make that tour 30 for the fans cause they were listening, than a white spare ball for the borders on fb to resell
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: REmarcaBOWL on June 06, 2016, 05:35:55 PM
They're due for new stuff on all platforms.

Kind of over did it with the dontplaybytherules website... an announcement at the bowl expo would've been enough
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: AlonzoHarris on June 06, 2016, 09:57:29 PM
Ball parking this thought but Defiant description "Don't play by the rules that the lane condition wants you to. Break the constraints with the Roto Grip Defiant Bowling Ball!"

Paragon core re-release...
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 07, 2016, 12:11:49 AM
Ball parking this thought but Defiant description "Don't play by the rules that the lane condition wants you to. Break the constraints with the Roto Grip Defiant Bowling Ball!"

Paragon core re-release...

Dang I hope it's not true..that's the worst rolling one of the bunch for me ...
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: bautch24 on June 07, 2016, 05:07:38 AM
Maybe a Mutant Hyper Cell?
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 07, 2016, 09:13:46 AM
Maybe a Mutant Hyper Cell?

One could only hope!!
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: SVstar34 on June 07, 2016, 10:49:25 AM
Ball parking this thought but Defiant description "Don't play by the rules that the lane condition wants you to. Break the constraints with the Roto Grip Defiant Bowling Ball!"

Paragon core re-release...

Dang I hope it's not true..that's the worst rolling one of the bunch for me ...

The Paragon core was pretty popular around me. A lot of Defiant Souls, I loved the one I had and I now feel like I could use that ball better now than when I had it before.

I think the Paragon core has been more popular than the Cage core
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 07, 2016, 12:10:12 PM
Ball parking this thought but Defiant description "Don't play by the rules that the lane condition wants you to. Break the constraints with the Roto Grip Defiant Bowling Ball!"

Paragon core re-release...

Dang I hope it's not true..that's the worst rolling one of the bunch for me ...

The Paragon core was pretty popular around me. A lot of Defiant Souls, I loved the one I had and I now feel like I could use that ball better now than when I had it before.

I think the Paragon core has been more popular than the Cage core

They did just release a defiant rage overseas...it could be that a la snap lock or a new defiant...
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: CoorZero on June 07, 2016, 01:01:07 PM
Ball parking this thought but Defiant description "Don't play by the rules that the lane condition wants you to. Break the constraints with the Roto Grip Defiant Bowling Ball!"

Paragon core re-release...

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I had the Defiant Soul and Totally Defiant. Both were amazing. I'm not sure if I actually need the type/strength of ball that would come out with the Paragon core, but room would be made.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: CoorZero on June 08, 2016, 05:13:56 PM
The Roto Grip No Rules was added to the approved ball list yesterday. I'm thinking that's going to be the leading character for this marketing ploy. Should be a heavy oil asymmetrical too otherwise I wouldn't think they go through the trouble of doing this.

Also added is the Wreck-It. A successor to the Wrecker could be a very, very a good thing. Seems like the name might fit in with the "don't play by the rules" slogan they have going.

The Power Cell is on there too but that might be an international release. Then again, maybe not since it's grouped in with the other two supposed US releases. I think three balls are in order for their next release group since the Hustle balls are already out so these three could be it.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: SVstar34 on June 08, 2016, 05:24:01 PM
I'm not sure if the Power Cell would be a stateside release

No Rules looks ugly as hell. Green, Orange, and Black.

Wreck-It looks pretty good. Looks like White pearl, Gold pearl, and black. It's either an all pearl cover or hybrid

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Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: bowlingman817 on June 08, 2016, 05:58:56 PM
I would think the wreck it would be a sanded hybrid considering they just came out with the hectic and just retired the devour. Just my thinking.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: AlonzoHarris on June 08, 2016, 07:08:37 PM
I would think the wreck it would be a sanded hybrid considering they just came out with the hectic and just retired the devour. Just my thinking.

I would find it hard to believe they would put out a hybrid as a successor to a hybrid, sanded or not.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: tloy on June 08, 2016, 07:12:50 PM
NoRules looks a lot like the Haywire...
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: AlonzoHarris on June 08, 2016, 07:21:37 PM
NoRules looks a lot like the Haywire...

That was my thoughts as well. If these are all they're coming with then I'm going to jump back to my consideration of the Paradox balls, the Snap Lock, or the Dark Legend.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: CoorZero on June 08, 2016, 08:14:29 PM
NoRules looks a lot like the Haywire...

It kind of does. I think I like it though. Any ball with that shade of green catches my eye.

The Wreck-It is going to have a lot of shelf appeal. To me the picture on the USBC site looks like the black is a pearl colorization, but like bowlingman817 said with the Hectic still in the lineup/the newest HP2 ball that would be an odd next step.

The Power Cell is purple, pink, and black. Looks like a solid, maybe polished, to me as well. I'm thinking that may in fact be an international release. Interesting that all three of the new additions have black as a part of the color scheme though.


That was my thoughts as well. If these are all they're coming with then I'm going to jump back to my consideration of the Paradox balls, the Snap Lock, or the Dark Legend.

Don't confuse looks with performance. The No Rules should definitely be a heavy oil option for Roto Grip. All they have in the HP4 line right now is the Eternal Cell so a new flagship piece is needed. The Haywire is still around but being a HP3 ball (and the pricing that goes with that) it doesn't have quite as much potential to be a cash cow for them. Have patience until more info is out.  ;)
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 08, 2016, 10:32:31 PM
Wow just saw the pics...

No rules looks to be a solid

You would want to assume the wreck-it would be an updated replacement to the wrecker.  But being they discontinued the devour...maybe it is an outcry styled cover.   

The no rules looks cool in my opinion.  Better than the menace ....

The menace stock pic looked awesome...in person not so much....

Green, orange and black should go together better than yellow, green and red.... right?

I hope it's an all new core in the no rules...
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: CoorZero on June 08, 2016, 11:04:55 PM
Motiv should have let Roto Grip have the Freestyle name in exchange for No Rules. That would have been a great name for the Jackal replacement.

Also, I had no idea the approved list (not the PDF) showed stock pictures . :-[
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 10, 2016, 01:41:27 PM
Motiv should have let Roto Grip have the Freestyle name in exchange for No Rules. That would have been a great name for the Jackal replacement.

Also, I had no idea the approved list (not the PDF) showed stock pictures . :-[

They should refine their manufacturing process, ensure it is on point...six sigma sh!t


Then come out with a ball name we with the initials F.U. haha
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: Good Times Good Times on June 10, 2016, 03:10:26 PM
Then come out with a ball name we with the initials F.U. haha

That's actually quite funny.   :P

The "F.U." is the solid and then ball down to the "F.U. haha" pearl.  The middle finger core.  Would that be a high RG with the middle extended?  :-\
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 10, 2016, 05:43:26 PM
Then come out with a ball name we with the initials F.U. haha

That's actually quite funny.   :P

The "F.U." is the solid and then ball down to the "F.U. haha" pearl.  The middle finger core.  Would that be a high RG with the middle extended?  :-\

It can be whatever u want!
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: LyalC52 on June 11, 2016, 01:32:34 AM
is the Power Cell coming state side or just INT?
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: SVstar34 on June 11, 2016, 10:04:20 AM
is the Power Cell coming state side or just INT?

Don't know yet. It seems like it could be an overseas release but it would make sense for Roto to have 3 stateside releases
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: CoorZero on June 11, 2016, 11:15:04 AM
is the Power Cell coming state side or just INT?

Don't know yet. It seems like it could be an overseas release but it would make sense for Roto to have 3 stateside releases

It's going to be interesting. If the No Rules is a HP4 release, and I don't see why it wouldn't be, then assuming the Power Cell is also that would be two of them at once. That would make sense given where the holes in the lineup are now that the Menace and Hyper Cell Skid have been retired, but I don't think they've done that before either.

Just gonna have to wait and see.  :'(
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: REmarcaBOWL on June 13, 2016, 10:54:02 AM
Power Cell will not be a USA release.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: RotoWorld on June 13, 2016, 11:46:00 AM
I personally think they will stick to these 2 this time around.  They did the Hy Wire and the Hustle's not too long ago, and those were outside of the normal pattern.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: CoorZero on June 13, 2016, 11:48:18 AM
Power Cell will not be a USA release.

Good to know. Will the Wreck-It be a USA release? That one kind of seems iffy to me as well.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: suhoney24 on June 13, 2016, 12:21:46 PM
i sure hope the wreck-it is stateside...that's the one that really has my interest
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: SVstar34 on June 13, 2016, 12:47:25 PM
Power Cell will not be a USA release.

Good to know. Will the Wreck-It be a USA release? That one kind of seems iffy to me as well.

I would bet on it being a worldwide release
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: CoorZero on June 13, 2016, 08:41:12 PM
I would bet on it being a worldwide release

Yeah, if it's a pearl I don't see why it wouldn't be. Having the two most recent HP2 releases being pearls doesn't seem like something they would do. Even a hybrid would be a little weird since the Wrecker was too but I don't think that's a huge deal if the Wreck-It goes stateside.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 14, 2016, 12:20:43 AM
I would bet on it being a worldwide release

Yeah, if it's a pearl I don't see why it wouldn't be. Having the two most recent HP2 releases being pearls doesn't seem like something they would do. Even a hybrid would be a little weird since the Wrecker was too but I don't think that's a huge deal if the Wreck-It goes stateside.

Bet u the wreck-it is the "outcry" of the wrecker/hectic/devour line....sanded pearl/hyrbid at like 2000, 3000 or 4000
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: DCNetBoy on June 14, 2016, 03:26:08 PM
Roto Grip needs to get their act together when it comes to making announcements.  LOL.  Other ball companies have no problem with letting us know what is coming this summer.  Check out the new stuff from Big B, DV8, and Radical.  The info is all there.  Come on Roto!  What's the deal?  LOL!
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: lbss831 on June 14, 2016, 05:04:22 PM
Well u have to remember they did the Critical than turned around and did the Hy-wire both were hybrids one sanded and the other polished, so I'm sure if it's another hybrid or u never know they might surprise u with a solid lol since the hectic was a pearl or maybe another pearl, I love my hectic but maybe it didn't sell that well who knows lol
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 14, 2016, 09:35:53 PM
Well u have to remember they did the Critical than turned around and did the Hy-wire both were hybrids one sanded and the other polished, so I'm sure if it's another hybrid or u never know they might surprise u with a solid lol since the hectic was a pearl or maybe another pearl, I love my hectic but maybe it didn't sell that well who knows lol


We have seen the USBC test balls. The no rules is a solid, replacing the menace/hyper cell

The wreck-it is some sort or hybrid or sanded pearl...probably similar to an outcry

This stuff is easy to figure out..not rocket science.  Look at what was discontinued first, then complete the gaps. 


Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: bowlingman817 on June 14, 2016, 10:43:45 PM
Would love to see the wreck-it with the same neutron core as the original. No modifications just give me the original. Also have it at a sanded 4000  and that would be perfection.
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: billdozer on June 14, 2016, 10:57:02 PM
Would love to see the wreck-it with the same neutron core as the original. No modifications just give me the original. Also have it at a sanded 4000  and that would be perfection.

I'm pretty sure that's it.  Think of it being the critical theory of the line up.  theoretically speaking it will

A handle the most oil, while
B having the most backend
C the people who love the wrecker will enjoy it
D the people who struggled and said it was squirty, will also probably like it...seems like a no brainier...
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: lbss831 on June 14, 2016, 11:02:54 PM
Yeah I agree I think the neutron core outcry cover
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: SVstar34 on June 14, 2016, 11:21:23 PM
Would love to see the wreck-it with the same neutron core as the original. No modifications just give me the original. Also have it at a sanded 4000  and that would be perfection.

I'm pretty sure that's it.  Think of it being the critical theory of the line up.  theoretically speaking it will

A handle the most oil, while
B having the most backend
C the people who love the wrecker will enjoy it
D the people who struggled and said it was squirty, will also probably like it...seems like a no brainier...

I'll take 2
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: Aloarjr810 on June 14, 2016, 11:49:32 PM
Found this:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:m5TShwHySC0J:www.bowltech.net/shop/nl/product_info.php%3Fproducts_id%3D29729%26osCsid%3D2719dd9061dd4bc6a22c1c1346db0b21+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:m5TShwHySC0J:www.bowltech.net/shop/nl/product_info.php%3Fproducts_id%3D29729%26osCsid%3D2719dd9061dd4bc6a22c1c1346db0b21+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

Note: If you go to the actual page instead of the google webcache. it says theres no product. I'm guessing they pulled info, maybe they released the info too early?

ROTO GRIP NO RULES
This product will be in stock on Thursday 30 June, 2016.

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Coverstock Name Micro DNA
Coverstock Style Solid
Coverstock Type Reactive
Weight Block Chaotic Core
Color Neon Green / Neon Orange / Black
Finish 2000-grit pad
Durometer 73-75 on D-Scale
Flare Potential 7+


Weight Radius of Gyration Differential PSA Differential

16 lbs 2.50 0.052 0.017

15 lbs 2.51 0.053 0.018

14 lbs 2.55 0.048 0.016

13 lbs 2.57 0.032 0.010

12 lbs 2.59 0.029 0.008

you can also see the ball on this foreign site
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Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: Aloarjr810 on June 15, 2016, 12:18:06 AM
Also on the foreign site:
Roto Grip No Rules Pearl
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Coverstock Name Amped
Coverstock Style Pearl
Coverstock Type Reactive
Weight Block Chaotic Core
Color Onyx / Neon Green / Silver
Finish 1500-grit Polished
Durometer 73-75 on D-Scale



Weight Radius of Gyration Differential PSA Differential

16 lbs 2.50 0.052 0.017

15 lbs 2.51 0.053 0.018

14 lbs 2.55 0.048 0.016

13 lbs 2.57 0.032 0.010

12 lbs 2.59 0.029 0.008
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: Aloarjr810 on June 15, 2016, 12:23:07 AM
Also on that site:

Roto Grip Wreck-It
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Coverstock Name psyched
Coverstock Style Hybrid
Coverstock Type Reactive
Weight Block Neutron
Color Gold & White Pearl / Black Solid
Finish 3000-grit pad
Durometer 73-75 on D-Scale
Flare Potential 4"+


Weight Radius of Gyration Differential PSA Differential

16 lbs 2.56 0.046

15 lbs 2.55 0.042

14 lbs 2.59 0.44

13 lbs 2.63 0.009

12 lbs 2.65 0.011
Title: Re: ROTO GRIP www.dontplaybytherules.com
Post by: bowlingman817 on June 15, 2016, 01:56:00 AM
Oh wow, I love the way that No Rules pearl looks. Hope they release both at the same time.
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Post by: suhoney24 on June 15, 2016, 07:45:55 AM
Oh wow, I love the way that No Rules pearl looks. Hope they release both at the same time.
you can choose just how you wanna break the rules!!!!!
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Post by: lbss831 on June 15, 2016, 09:39:18 AM
So the cover from the Hustle,figured they  would use a stronger cover well I guess it also depends on how strong that cover is
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Post by: Aloarjr810 on June 15, 2016, 09:42:13 AM
Note the Pearl doesn't appear on the current approved balls list (at least not yet).
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Post by: billdozer on June 15, 2016, 10:15:17 AM
Wow didn't see 2 new balls coming for the no rules and the I called it for the wreck-it!
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Post by: tloy on June 15, 2016, 11:38:33 AM
I like the looks and numbers on the NoRules core. Similar to the Lock. May have to look into one... ;)
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Post by: billdozer on June 15, 2016, 12:15:05 PM
I like the looks and numbers on the NoRules core. Similar to the Lock. May have to look into one... ;)

Probably similar numbers but I bet the hook shape is cell-esque
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Post by: bowlingman817 on June 15, 2016, 12:46:47 PM
Oh wow, I love the way that No Rules pearl looks. Hope they release both at the same time.
you can choose just how you wanna break the rules!!!!!
Hell's yeah, I choose to break them all, Lol!
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Post by: Elimeno Pee on June 15, 2016, 12:50:02 PM
So is it safe to speculate the "Power Cell" on the approved list is probably an over seas ball?   I it'd be fun to get a hybrid Cell
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Post by: AlonzoHarris on June 15, 2016, 04:23:59 PM
So the no rules is the Haywire coverstock with a modified RadX core...
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Post by: billdozer on June 15, 2016, 05:36:36 PM
So the no rules is the Haywire coverstock with a modified RadX core...

I'd say a modified nucleus core...and a NRG, microbite particle type cover.

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Post by: CoorZero on June 15, 2016, 10:04:16 PM
Yeah it's not quite the same as the Haywire. That has the Microbite where the No Rules has the Micro DNA. Obviously sounds like it's in the same range overall, but still different.

Good call on the Wreck-It billdozer. It is the Outcry of the Neutron core balls. I really like mine though so the Wreck-It might be calling my name...
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Post by: machine24 on June 20, 2016, 11:18:36 AM
What happen to USBC approved list, just checked and the wreck-it and no rules are no their anymore.

Also just a question what is being released on June 29th, cause in the bowlers journal issue this month it say not until August 2nd. I know the hustle are being released on the June 21st. I guess going to let one ball released at a time.
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Post by: CoorZero on June 20, 2016, 12:16:46 PM
What happen to USBC approved list, just checked and the wreck-it and no rules are no their anymore.

Also just a question what is being released on June 29th, cause in the bowlers journal issue this month it say not until August 2nd. I know the hustle are being released on the June 21st. I guess going to let one ball released at a time.

Interesting. Storm/Roto Grip may have pulled them off the list themselves so stuff doesn't leak out any more than it already has. They seem to be putting some effort into a big reveal so it would make sense. If you noticed the recent announcements from Brunswick and Ebonite coincided with the stuff getting put on the approved list the same day. I think that's a trend we'll see continue.
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Post by: Elimeno Pee on June 27, 2016, 07:39:21 AM
http://www.rotogrip.com/balls/powercell (http://www.rotogrip.com/balls/powercell)   is this foreign or American?
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Post by: billdozer on June 27, 2016, 09:27:55 AM
Power cell is overseas

The roto teaser site is partially unlocked and shows the core if the no rules.

So those are 'IT'
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Post by: billdozer on June 27, 2016, 09:51:43 AM
And now the page I saw is not there...weird. anybody screen shot it? It looks like a view of the new core and that's it?
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Post by: suhoney24 on June 27, 2016, 10:18:56 AM
I have a pic of the core but this site refuses to let me upload it on my iPad
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Post by: SVstar34 on June 27, 2016, 10:40:25 AM
And now the page I saw is not there...weird. anybody screen shot it? It looks like a view of the new core and that's it?

I saw it too. I actually left the site up on my tablet, however, I'm at work now and don't have my tablet with me
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Post by: billdozer on June 27, 2016, 11:31:17 AM
I have a pic of the core but this site refuses to let me upload it on my iPad

Right we got pics of the core but the don'tplay by the rules site had an update...I was talking about that.

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Post by: billdozer on June 27, 2016, 11:34:19 AM
But I did see something with that core. So it's basically confirmed that the no rules are coming. Hopefully "plural"
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Post by: Svenster on June 27, 2016, 06:01:43 PM
Here is a screenshot of the poster with the core on the web page.
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Post by: CoorZero on June 27, 2016, 06:56:35 PM
Yeah, the No Rules and Wreck-It are back on the approved list (PDF version at least).
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Post by: suhoney24 on June 28, 2016, 05:22:43 PM
Just seen on Facebook it will be the no rules and wreck it...no pearl...with the no rules being described as "a hyper cell on steriods"
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Post by: AlonzoHarris on June 28, 2016, 08:08:33 PM
Just seen on Facebook it will be the no rules and wreck it...no pearl...with the no rules being described as "a hyper cell on steriods"

Who ever really needs a ball that strong? Now might check that Wreck-It out. I wanna know what the next HP4 Pearl will be.
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Post by: CoorZero on June 28, 2016, 10:29:14 PM
Who ever really needs a ball that strong? Now might check that Wreck-It out. I wanna know what the next HP4 Pearl will be.

A pearl version of the No Rules. Roto Grip's releases are pretty straight-forward that way.
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Post by: Elimeno Pee on June 29, 2016, 09:54:47 AM
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Post by: AlonzoHarris on June 29, 2016, 10:14:35 AM
Who ever really needs a ball that strong? Now might check that Wreck-It out. I wanna know what the next HP4 Pearl will be.

A pearl version of the No Rules. Roto Grip's releases are pretty straight-forward that way.

With seeing the RG and Diff now, I'm thinking I would like a pearl version.
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Post by: SVstar34 on June 29, 2016, 10:16:58 AM
I don't know if the surface listed on that site is correct. Seeing it in Schlemer's video yesterday it definitely looked dull
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Post by: billdozer on June 29, 2016, 11:51:16 AM
I don't know if the surface listed on that site is correct. Seeing it in Schlemer's video yesterday it definitely looked dull
It looked like a sanded hybrid like the critical
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Post by: suhoney24 on June 29, 2016, 11:58:53 AM
I guess August 2nd will be the release date...no rules looked amazing strong...but I have a hyper cell and a haywire so not totally sure I need one
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Post by: Elimeno Pee on June 29, 2016, 02:56:38 PM
This page says there's a no rule, a wreck it , and a new pearl.  Who knows
http://www.berksbowlingnews.co.uk/newproducts.html (http://www.berksbowlingnews.co.uk/newproducts.html)
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Post by: CoorZero on June 29, 2016, 03:16:00 PM
This page says there's a no rule, a wreck it , and a new pearl.  Who knows
http://www.berksbowlingnews.co.uk/newproducts.html (http://www.berksbowlingnews.co.uk/newproducts.html)

That's an overseas site and there was a picture posted of a No Rules pearl earlier in the thread. I think this might be like the Snap Lock where Storm brings it over to the US after releasing overseas first.
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Post by: Elimeno Pee on June 29, 2016, 03:22:02 PM
I could that, but ould also see hem either double releasing the hp4, or quick releasing a 2nd 4.  they "cleaned house" on the hp4 line in the website at the end if last season.  kinda odd for them to kill all but one ball in a line, without plans to redwood ge market.   just my opinion though , we shall see soon
This page says there's a no rule, a wreck it , and a new pearl.  Who knows
http://www.berksbowlingnews.co.uk/newproducts.html (http://www.berksbowlingnews.co.uk/newproducts.html)

That's an overseas site and there was a picture posted of a No Rules pearl earlier in the thread. I think this might be like the Snap Lock where Storm brings it over to the US after releasing overseas first.
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Post by: tloy on June 29, 2016, 04:08:05 PM
Exciting Times!!!! :)
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Post by: Good Times Good Times on June 29, 2016, 05:02:27 PM
No Rules and Wreck It are listed.  Is the No Rules pearl going to be released later?
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Post by: tommyboy74 on June 29, 2016, 09:35:10 PM
All I know is that I'm definitely interested in the No Rules solid for sure.  The MicroBite cover matched up really well with me on the Defiant, so I can see this being even better.  But if they bring out the pearl, I may have to retire my Critical Theory.
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Post by: Elimeno Pee on June 30, 2016, 07:43:31 AM
Not holding my breath for this to happen.  But I kinda would guess they might announce the pearl today.
My reasons:
The British site I found the info on yesterday said they weren't international releases, but had both on it.

The Japanese site that does ball videos has a video up now for both.

The pearl is not listed yet on the international list on the site.

A few days ago, Roto fb said stay tuned 29&30 for news and stuff.

Why would they eliminate more than what they were replacing in their lineup?


If I'm wrong oh well, but that's what my thoughts are right now on the subject.


On another note, why does bowlingball.com already have the Critical on the going away list?
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Post by: lbss831 on June 30, 2016, 08:02:51 AM
I like my critical,but they look at it if the sale are down just fade it out and replace it with a new ball,all about marketing and putting out what appeals to your customers
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Post by: AlonzoHarris on June 30, 2016, 10:26:41 AM
I would have to imagine there will be a pearl coming to the HP3 and/or HP4 line sooner than later.
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Post by: billdozer on June 30, 2016, 10:53:52 AM
Usually Berks, is all of the US stuff. I feel it means the no rules pearl is coming later.

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Post by: Elimeno Pee on June 30, 2016, 11:37:47 AM
Maybe a staggered release time?  Not the december/Jan usual, but maybe an October?