Post by: Ric Clint on April 28, 2005, 06:02:18 PM
Trying to figure out a good 3-4 ball arsenal for someone on a budget.
RS-X (sanded to 800)
Ultra Sonic (polished to 1500)
Sonic X Pearl or Solid (polished to 2500-3500)
Spare Tire (Polished to 3500)
Would this work or are there gaps?
Post by: RotoT on April 29, 2005, 04:10:42 AM
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Post by: Matt Fortney on April 29, 2005, 04:27:45 AM
as far as your question Ric, i think RotoT is right, for what the balls are supposed to do in comparison to each other...rsx to ultra sonic might be a bit far apart, unless the rsx is drilled maybe a bit weak, and the ultra strong...then it might work, but rs1 would be a nice fit in between the two.
matt
Post by: Ric Clint on April 29, 2005, 04:55:05 AM
Post by: Jeffrevs on April 29, 2005, 05:56:47 AM
I've said this before and I'll say it again....
The RSX / RS1 combo is probably the best 1-2 punch available for the money hands down! Big, arcing, predictable and strong solid / pearl !!
RSX
RS1
Ultra or Super
$280 before drilling! can't beat it!
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JEFF
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Post by: RotoT on April 29, 2005, 07:06:57 AM
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Post by: bowlingmytmouse on April 29, 2005, 10:27:41 AM
I would think that you could step down to the Ressurection, no problem. Although I am sure that you would have to move a few boards right. But for me, I wouldn't look to try to make the RSX(whenever I get one) compliment my RS-1, because my RS-1 has midlane like no other, if I drill up the RS-x in the same manner, I think that after my line is done with the RS-X there would be nothing left for my RS-1, I think that I would just go to my ressurection. I think that the best 1-2 combo, is the either the RS-1 or Rs-x and the ressurection. Just my opinion.
BMM
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Post by: Jeffrevs on April 29, 2005, 10:29:35 AM
move left w/ the RS1 !
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JEFF
"Chance to squint at a sky so blue that it hurts your eyes just to look at it."
Post by: bowlingmytmouse on April 29, 2005, 10:54:39 AM
The layout that I have on my RS-1 isn't one for covering boards, its for a strong midlane move. With this ball you can't just keep moving left, especially if there are other big pieces playing the same area of the lane, it reads wayyy to early.
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Roto Grip forever!!!! What else is there??
Post by: Ric Clint on May 04, 2005, 03:25:20 PM
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I wouldn't look to try to make the RSX (whenever I get one) compliment my RS-1, because my RS-1 has midlane like no other, if I drill up the RS-x in the same manner, I think that after my line is done with the RS-X there would be nothing left for my RS-1.
This is kind of what I was talking about. What the above poster said.
Because if you think about it... if you are using your RS-X for a few games and it becomes too strong say in the midlane and backend, then if you step down to the RS-1, then that ball will be too strong also wouldn't it? So therefore, it would be better to just go down to the Ultra Sonic it seems?
Edited on 5/4/2005 3:19 PM
Post by: charlest on May 04, 2005, 06:12:11 PM
Post by: TheDude on May 04, 2005, 11:51:14 PM
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Normally, with similar drillings, the pearl equivalent of a solid is not the next step down when the solid becomes too early or too strong. So, logically, when a strong ball like the RS-X becomes too much, a ball like the Ultra-Sonic or Super-Sonic would the normal or average go-to ball.
are you out of your mind??? no way. the ultra is a weak ball by comparsion to the original black.
the next step down would be a retro resurrection, or better yet a silver streak black original. then start to talk about supers or ultras.
tonight i drilled daniel an RS-X and the ball flares 7+ inches just as advertised. it's about 5 to 7 boards stronger than the SSblack was.
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Montreal, Quebec.
Post by: TheDude on May 04, 2005, 11:58:35 PM
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Montreal, Quebec.
Edited on 5/5/2005 11:55 AM
Post by: bowlingmytmouse on May 05, 2005, 12:33:08 AM
RS-X or RS-1 drilled with pin close to the PAP(see my prof. for pics. layed out like this the ball can handle its own in oil, forget that its pearl)
Super Sonic(1500 polish) Ultra is VERY sensitive to carrydown
Sonic Pearl(box finish)
Spare tire(but if this person can get away from a plastic ball or even get a cheap ol' white dot, a Ressurection will fill the slight gap between the RS-X and Super Sonic.
BMM
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Roto Grip forever!!!! What else is there??
Post by: TheDude on May 05, 2005, 12:39:26 AM
i'd go with RS-1
try it in box finish if it finishes too hard break off the box surface and re polish at a slightly lower grit.
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Timothy @Juniors Pro-Shop
Staff Writer 7-10 Split Magazine,EGO Communications
Montreal, Quebec.
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on May 05, 2005, 01:08:00 AM
If you're leaving 9-pins, with little threat of the addition of the 4-pin along with the 9-pin, that's EXACTLY where I want to be playing. Miniscule speed/hand/lane adjustments will help try to eliminate the 9-pins but, if you're playing a shot that doesn't break down a bunch, you've found your happy place.
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Post by: Jeffrevs on May 05, 2005, 06:28:25 AM
quote:quote:
I wouldn't look to try to make the RSX (whenever I get one) compliment my RS-1, because my RS-1 has midlane like no other, if I drill up the RS-x in the same manner, I think that after my line is done with the RS-X there would be nothing left for my RS-1.
This is kind of what I was talking about. What the above poster said.
Because if you think about it... if you are using your RS-X for a few games and it becomes too strong say in the midlane and backend, then if you step down to the RS-1, then that ball will be too strong also wouldn't it? So therefore, it would be better to just go down to the Ultra Sonic it seems?
But....BMMs drill is different......he's got a lower pin about a 2 1/2 from pap,...lower flare, but earlier start, on a super low rg ball to begin with.
What I'm saying its this.........
RS-X w/ 800 smooth with a 4x4, then an RS1 (box) with a 5x4, ....trust me, they'll complement each other....
On the other hand.......yes, he could go a Retro Res also ...if he did that he could probably keep the Retro in box w/ the same drill, but personally I'd have/want a bigger gap....
My Roto 3 ball line-up if I had to decide right this second.......
FOR ME:
RSX 800 smooth 4x3
RS1 box 4.5 x 3.5
Super Sonic box 4.5 x 3.5
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JEFF
"Chance to squint at a sky so blue that it hurts your eyes just to look at it."
Post by: stormed1 on May 08, 2005, 12:58:04 AM
My arsenal
Oracle 3 3/4 x 3 3/4 factory finih
RS-X 4x3 factory finish
Rs-1 4 1/2 x 3 3/8 pin above finger
RS-1 4 1/2 x 3 3/8 Pin below finger
Ultra Sonic 6 1/2 x 4
Post by: Ric Clint on June 08, 2005, 01:21:17 AM