I wanted a ball with a secure midlane read without the ball puking because of the core+cover combo. I don't want a ball necessarily for light oil. I have used a shout with a strong drilling before and it gave me the look I am looking for. I am not a guy who needs to cover 20 boards, but I do need a ball that will still grab the lane very hard without dealing over and and under I often see from balls that are too much. And the Shout I may get will not be @3000 grit. Besides, it wouldn't have the angle I need and that would defeat the purpose of getting one.