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Title: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: Easy10pins on January 20, 2008, 03:54:04 AM
...must be a DAMN GOOD ball since in today's PBA match, Scroggins in killing with it, Delutz and Jurek were using it as well.

Since I'm throwing RG now, (Horizon Solid, Mystic, Neptune), I should add this one to my arsenal.  

Go Roto.
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Edited on 1/20/2008 1:19 PM
Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: Mustang Guy on January 20, 2008, 11:58:21 AM
I would like to second your motion easy10.  

I think Randy hit it on the head though...Jurek needs to move right.  He bowled well all week with the Cell.
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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: charlest on January 20, 2008, 02:05:07 PM
I'm consider doing that myself .... It's too hard to resist.
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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: Platinum Bowler on January 20, 2008, 02:17:08 PM
This is honestly the first time that I can say that what the pro's were throwing on tv this week might be determining in me buying that ball. It will be my first Roto Grip ball, and I am thinking it will be a great decision.
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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: 1MechEng on January 20, 2008, 02:25:39 PM
Charlest - Didn't Roger already offer you a seed ball in another Cell thread?!

The ball did look impressive today in Scroggins hands. Unfortunately, Jurek and Delutz didn't have the same level of consistency for hitting their line that Scroggins had.

This was the first time on the telecast that I've heard them talk about the way a ball was performing. They didn't mention the ball by name, but they talked about how many of the players were using it during the finals. That's some great exposure for Roto Grip and the Cell!
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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: charlest on January 20, 2008, 02:35:18 PM
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Charlest - Didn't Roger already offer you a seed ball in another Cell thread?!



That's the reason for the smiley face. It's on its way. and part of the reason it's impossible to resist. Was thinking of it before the offer, though, enough tosave the design notes made by Hank Boomershine.

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The ball did look impressive today in Scroggins hands. Unfortunately, Jurek and Delutz didn't have the same level of consistency for hitting their line that Scroggins had.



That might have been because the right side had more play and got more fubar-ed than the left.

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This was the first time on the telecast that I've heard them talk about the way a ball was performing. They didn't mention the ball by name, but they talked about how many of the players were using it during the finals. That's some great exposure for Roto Grip and the Cell!
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Yes, it speaks well for it when three different styles used it on a very difficult pattern.
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Edited on 1/20/2008 3:37 PM
Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: toomanytenpins on January 20, 2008, 02:43:27 PM
i am truly flabbergasted. watching the show now and i know that i am not even a rev line on the ball of either of these bowlers ,but the cell for me ,well lets just say if anyone had watched me bowl today and i said  i was using the cell they wouldnt have believed it. I am watching these giys and the ball is responding so well to this shot . I bowled today on a reverse block and since everything i had was dull i had to try to play in the oil. I guess i should be mad at myself and i am ,but if you noticed the bad shots, the washouts the seven /ten pins the shots that just dont get to the head pin thats what i get. I dont even believe i was throwing the same ball.Jureks ball best exemplifies my results with the cell. I know he was trying to play the dry . I couldnt play it anywhere across the dry or up the boards.It just doesnt fit my style, or lack there of. I am glad it works for the masses though.
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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: bigdawgwill44 on January 20, 2008, 02:44:57 PM
what kind of conditions were they bowling on today? I see they were playing pretty long and outside.
Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 20, 2008, 11:16:19 PM
can any of y'all tell me what ball Mike Scroggins was throwin today....it looked pretty good!

Any idea of the drill?  Tough to see those lefty drills!

REGards,

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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: Joe Jr on January 20, 2008, 11:22:56 PM
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can any of y'all tell me what ball Mike Scroggins was throwin today....it looked pretty good!

Any idea of the drill?  Tough to see those lefty drills!

REGards,

Luckylefty
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Not serious are you? It was the Cell, the same ball the other 2 were throwing, it's what this thread is about.

On the drilling, the pin was over his ring finger.

This ball is in my future! Maybe a Pluto too.
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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: max revs on January 20, 2008, 11:55:33 PM
pin was below his ring finger
Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 21, 2008, 06:16:53 AM
kidding!

Mass bias position?...not kidding!

REgards,

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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: bowler851 on January 21, 2008, 06:32:49 AM
started will ball pin above, finished with ball pin below.
Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 21, 2008, 08:28:02 AM
Another question....I'm watching the matches today.

Does this ball have some irregularities with it that it only works for lefthanders??

I think I like this new ball.

Oh...is there a mass bias position on any of these balls Mike Scroggins threw?

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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: Joe Jr on January 21, 2008, 09:07:23 AM
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kidding!

Mass bias position?...not kidding!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Ok, you scared me for a minute LL.
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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on January 21, 2008, 09:09:30 AM
Wiseman also looked good throwing this ball the other week.  Just missed on a couple shots...
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Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: Borincano on January 21, 2008, 09:21:47 AM
CHRIS SCHLEMER AND THE ROTO REPORT - THE CELL DOMINATES!!!  
Bowling News - 1/21/2008
 
 

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  Hello RG fans and welcome to the Roto Report as provided by me, Chris Schlemer. Of course you know that this entire report will be about quite possibly the best Roto Grip ball ever created. That’s right I’m referring to the CELL. Yall got your first taste of it a couple weeks ago when free agent Danny Wiseman used one on the show in Reno. It was the debut of the CELL. Now here we are 2 weeks later and 3 free agents use it on TV and Mike Scroggins goes on to win with it. HMMM let’s see, it been on the PBA tour 3 weeks and has made 4 appearances. Numbers don’t lie is all I can say. Undoubtedly one of the best mass bias creations of all time, bowlers around the globe including the best in the business can’t wait to get their hands on it. Last week was just a glimpse of what is to come from this ball. I’m sure there are many of you that recently attended the latest seminar given by Roto Grip and Storm and if the seminar didn’t convince you. I’m sure that 3 out of 5 guys using it on the show will help clear up any questions. Not to mention that all 3 guys, Mike Scroggins, Jack Jurek and Tommy Delutz Jr. are all free agents. Meaning they can use what ever they want on the market and last week all 3 wanted to use the CELL. Unfortunately there isn’t a record book that tracks the balls used on the show week in and week out. But if there was, you would have to go back a long time in order to find a show in which 3 guys used the same type of ball. I have been out here almost 7 years and have never seen such a thing.

  Tommy Delutz Jr. and Mike Scroggins both used the CELL a majority of the time during qualifying. Then as the week went on, both drilled another to compliment the one they already had. Then after qualifying, Jack Jurek wanted to try one out for the first round of match play. He then proceeded to go out and shoot the only 300 game of the entire tournament. This by the way pocketed him the entire 300 game pot for a cool $1000. Not bad for a ball he drilled just before that first match play round. All 3 guys were in contention thru all 3 rounds of match play. Again, they are free agents so they can use what ever they want. And well honestly they did. But when all was said and done they all decided they wanted to use the ball that gave them the best opportunity to win. Yep, the CELL was that ball of choice. All 3 guys had more than one CELL in the bag for the telecast. In fact, Scroggins had 2, Jurek had 3 and Delutz had 5.

  If you watched the show you may or may not have noticed Mike Scroggins CELL change after he defeated Storm staffer Pete Weber in the opening match. After the match he told me he felt the CELL with the mass bias out beyond his VAL was starting to burn up a little bit. The main reason for this was the fact that he used a ODYSSEY sanded with 360 abralon to burn a spot on the gutter and used his Denny’s ball straight up around 6,7 to carry oil down. This little plan gave him hook left and hold right, thus creating more room for error on his part. So anyway, I had him throw his other CELL with a similar pin placement but a totally different mass bias placement. His eventual winning CELL had the mass bias placed almost in the thumb which allowed it to clear the front better and have more energy going thru the pins. This is the reason why he threw the HORIZON SOLID in the first frame of the title match. Again he felt as though the ball was reading a little early. So I grabbed the HORIZON which is a symmetrical shape core with a solid shell and a pin up layout to get thru the burned up midlane. What yall didn’t see at home during the warm-up for the title match was Scroggs throw a 6 bagger with the HORIZON. That is why he started with it. That notion was short lived as he went back to his comfort zone and grabbed the CELL with the mass bias by the thumb and threw it harder. End result title number 4 for Scroggs and title number 1 for the CELL. Party @ Scroggs has been around a long time and only accumulated 4 trips to victory lane. The CELL however has been around 3 weeks and has already made it to the winner’s circle. Which at that rate, who knows how many titles, will be won with a CELL? I guess only time will tell. But in the mean time, don’t be afraid to add one or 2 or 3 to your arsenal. Trust me you will not regret it. The only thing you will regret is not getting one sooner!
Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: SRTthis300 on January 21, 2008, 11:21:40 AM
i like to hear this!!! i cant wait till mine gets here!!!
Title: Re: So, I guess the new Cell....
Post by: mrbowlingnut on January 21, 2008, 11:54:18 AM
I polished my Cell up and it is a crap shoot half the time if a bll will still hook alot with me or not, well i must say it hardly lost any motion in oil and the backend became almost like my Black Widow Bite. It handles more oil than the Bite and has just a touch less hook in the back.

I could see having 2-3 more of these varying surfaces and pin postions, the cover take polish well something the Odyssey never did for me.