Author Topic: The Cell: Initial impressions (Read 9340 times)

BackToBasics · « **on:** December 28, 2007, 01:54:52 AM »

Wow! Finally got a chance to throw it last night and I'm very impressed. Decided to go with a familiar layout. Pin 5" below ring, MB at 55* and hole on VAL through CG. Box finish. I love the color combo.

Now, how to describe the roll....Strong roll off the spot comes to mind. No jerk but there is a change of direction and then just a heavy continuous roll. Very controllable and it reads transition very well. Used it on an overwalled house-shot where the scores were very low. Extremely wet-dry (like hit 6 go runaway brooklyn...hit 7 smack 3 in face). The Cell allowed me to cross into the dry but with a controlled roll off the spot. But when I missed in a little, it still recovered. It was very forgiving on a shot that is normally my nemesis because of my rotation. Moves were very predictable. Managed a 720 with a 262 sweep the last game (don't ask

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It should get some play the next week. Lots of tournaments this weekend and through New Year's days so I'll have more info and comparisons later. But the Cell, a solid covered ball that has some "angle" and continuation, will be a big hit for Roto.

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TheDude · « **Reply #31 on:** January 09, 2008, 09:26:58 AM »

Got our standing order balls yesterday and drilled it up for a lefty that has tons of other RG balls.

This ball's shape is really different. The coverstock's reaction to friction really is agressive. Its a transition i haven't seen before on the market.

And the price point is a winner makes it an easy sell.
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mttmar1975 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 09, 2008, 12:43:43 PM »

Its nice to see all these great stories about the Cell. I have had mine for a couple weeks and have been using only that ball because I have so much versatility with it. I shot my high set 269-264-240=773. Since then I have been bowling really consistent. I haven't missed the pocket much and haven't shot below 660 with it. Last night was the same story. 256-229-225=710. The ball has a very continuous roll and I can't help but notice how the ball drives all the way through the pin deck instead of deflecting. This ball is great and its going to help me be a more consistent bowler.
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rotomike · « **Reply #33 on:** January 10, 2008, 08:36:11 PM »

For those of you that are old enough to remember.....

My teammate and I had Excaliburs in our hands while the rest of my pair had black U-dots.

Drilled my 2nd Cell pin 4" from PAP low with the cg kicked out and a low hole. MB is 4" rom PAP.

Tonight we bowled on PBA Shark 44' and a wet version at that. By the end of the 2nd game of our 4 game set my teamie and I were ten boards deeper than our opponents and still moving in while our opponents couldn't get their balls to turn the corner.

I cannot say enough about the continuation off of the spot the Cell has. It doesn't just make a strong move like an Odyssey it has continuation through the pindeck. One famed ball company rep says you should watch the ball roll through the triangle at the end of the lane. This ball gives the player a look that I have not seen in a long time. I thought that the new oils might have erased this look for all except the high rev players but the Cell puts this look back in the hand of strokers and tweeners.

You would be a fool not to try a Cell.

WAIT!!!!! Did I mention the price of the ball is affordable???

Super performance at a reasonable price!!!!

Yeah this sounds like a sales pitch but after what I have seen the past two weeks with the Cell in the hands of many players you would be a fool to not give this ball a try!!!!!
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toomanytenpins · « **Reply #34 on:** January 10, 2008, 08:48:02 PM »

i ordered mine monday and paid 137 for it i got robbed i c the prices today at 119 . All i can say is it better pay for itself ,and quick. I cant wait to throw it geting it drilled like my odyssey. If it will handle my sunday morning shot my battle is for sale 16 pounds with pro cg single drill. my odyssey will be polished over 400 grit and i will be down to 4 balls oh boy oh boy oh boy i cant wait to throw it
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bowl400 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 11, 2008, 01:08:28 PM »

ok, ordered one from buddies today. 2.5-3 top, 2-3 pin. looking to drill it 4X3 pin down for medium heavy house shots. hopefully it will perform better than the other "premium" ball i purchased this year.
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tenpinspro · « **Reply #36 on:** January 11, 2008, 01:31:27 PM »

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ok, ordered one from buddies today. 2.5-3 top, 2-3 pin. looking to drill it 4X3 pin down for medium heavy house shots. hopefully it will perform better than the other "premium" ball i purchased this year.
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crankncrash · « **Reply #37 on:** January 11, 2008, 09:10:12 PM »

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Charlest - We are also offering this 'Premium' ball at an affordable price. The Cell is being introduced at the same price point as out Illusion/Mystic.

Great ball at a great price. Do you want to try one? Shoot me an email with your mailing address and ball weight. I'd like to offer you one.

Let me know.

PS - that wasn't an open invitation for everyone to ask for a freebie

Thank you.
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Ahh my old friend Roger,

I certainly see that Roto has come a long way from the Fuel of old that was the fuel of my fire against Roto, pun intended. That ball was a an all time learning experience for me and probably a nice big headache for you. I get upset thinking about our conversations just sitting here, haha. Sorry about that.

That said, this ball has my attention atleast. I need a ball that will do what I'm hearing this ball is good at. If I happen to run into somebody with one and get to check it out and like what I see, I might have to order one for the shop and punch it out. We haven't drilled any roto at the shop since the planet series first came out and we brought some in, maybe this is the ball to get us rolling again.

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RevLefty · « **Reply #38 on:** January 12, 2008, 02:32:27 AM »

I must say I am a hammerhead for life but have thrown alot of roto grip stuff my second favorite ball company.

I drilled this ball last night. Pin is just under bride on center line cg is kicked left under ring finger and the mass bias is about 2 inches left of thumb. Balance hole on val just under my pap to bring back to 7/8ths on side and 3/8ths on thumb. Left ball in oob surface

I bowled on a 38 foot Ths after some open bowling on it which gave me alot of soup in middle and carrydown. This ball is absolutely amazing handles oil like it isnt there and trust me you need it with this ball or put it away. I normally play on this condition with my feet at 19 throwing thru 14 at arrows to about 5 with something polished and med. At this house for me if i move inside of that it skids all way to pocket or miss left with my ball speed. Usually start out with my toxic at this point.

That said tried that line ball hooked at arrows took out 6 pin. So i made a 5 and five move throwing 19 at arrows with feet at around 24 tried to send out to 5 didnt make it started hooking at about 10 and never stoped thru deck which it went brooklyn. Threw my toxic on same line I hit the 2 4 didnt even get to pocket. Threw my epic oddessy on this line and it came up on light side in pocket. Moved another 5 feet with feet and and threw through 22 at arrows got it out to 8 and it came screaming back to pocket and cotinued all way thru deck. The move off the spot is very strong but not a flip the only thing that moves harder off spot I have is black widow bite but that cant handle nearly the amount of oil this gem can. This ball had a similar reaction and could handle as much oil as my sharp blade which is a med load particle that is at 800 grit. I dont even want to imagine the cell at anything under 2000 abralon I would have no need for it. This ball is flat out amazing at first glance It can handle heavy oil and when you get it to dry it doesnt overreact it is controllable. This is a must buy cant wait to get another so i can polish it so i can use this gem on more conditions.
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All10 · « **Reply #39 on:** January 12, 2008, 01:59:50 PM »

I punched one up, all I can say is this ball is extremely strong,
it rolled fantastic and just keeps rolling up. I need to take the surface up some though it just hooks so much.

Mustang Guy · « **Reply #40 on:** January 13, 2008, 09:40:50 AM »

Crank,

Good to hear from you. Feel free to shot me a PM. Would like to discuss this ball with you some more.

Thanks,
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Roto Grip, Inc.
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toomanytenpins · « **Reply #41 on:** January 13, 2008, 02:25:19 PM »

u guys got me again.I had my cell drilled just like my odyssey. From all the reviews i was expecting something really special. No over under heavy oil ball ,versatile ,use on many conditions,blah blah blah blah .Just as much a dud as the battle in heavy oil. this ball doesnt come close to the move my odyssey has. I left so many 10 pins solid 8's pocket splits it wasnt even funny. I only thru my odyssey to compare .I intentionally kept using the cell . Playing different lines different hand positions .You name it i tryed it.Hand s down it doesnt come close to the odyssey. As much of a let down in heavy oil as the rising was and the battle and every other ball i have bought for heavy. Ok i can probably take the surface down ,but most of you guys are saying it was too strong at oob. So whats the point .This is the absolute last new ball i buy based on reviews and recommendations. Someone in this thread said they strongly recommened this ball for rev and speed challenged bowlers . I got sucked right in .Once again i had the better ball already. I am not even going to waste the time sanding it down . I am sure i wont be able to use it on the house shots we see either cause it will be too strong with loads of over /under. And on top of that i paid 20 dollars more for it than i would have had i waited 2 days.I knew i should have passed when someone refered to it as having a morich type move. my wmb is sitting in the garage and will be there until i sell it. I couldnt wait to bowl today . And for what .To see that once again i dont match up to whats supposed to be a great ball.
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Nails · « **Reply #42 on:** January 13, 2008, 02:43:22 PM »

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u guys got me again.I had my cell drilled just like my odyssey. From all the reviews i was expecting something really special. No over under heavy oil ball ,versatile ,use on many conditions,blah blah blah blah .Just as much a dud as the battle in heavy oil. this ball doesnt come close to the move my odyssey has. I left so many 10 pins solid 8's pocket splits it wasnt even funny. I only thru my odyssey to compare .I intentionally kept using the cell . Playing different lines different hand positions .You name it i tryed it.Hand s down it doesnt come close to the odyssey. As much of a let down in heavy oil as the rising was and the battle and every other ball i have bought for heavy. Ok i can probably take the surface down ,but most of you guys are saying it was too strong at oob. So whats the point .This is the absolute last new ball i buy based on reviews and recommendations. Someone in this thread said they strongly recommened this ball for rev and speed challenged bowlers . I got sucked right in .Once again i had the better ball already. I am not even going to waste the time sanding it down . I am sure i wont be able to use it on the house shots we see either cause it will be too strong with loads of over /under. And on top of that i paid 20 dollars more for it than i would have had i waited 2 days.I knew i should have passed when someone refered to it as having a morich type move. my wmb is sitting in the garage and will be there until i sell it. I couldnt wait to bowl today . And for what .To see that once again i dont match up to whats supposed to be a great ball.
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Why do you keep buying balls? You hate everything. Leaving 10's and 8's is about matching up your roll and angle to the pattern. No ball is going to magically strike just because it hits the 1-3. Just about every ball you've disliked has been made for medium heavy to heavy oil. I'd be willing to bet that you don't bowl on that, your timing or release is below average, or you are strongly speed dominant. Watching Wiseman on last week's telecast throw the Cell down the outside on Shark showed me that it is definitely a strong ball. If you threw it today, it's highly doubtful you threw it on anything more than a medium oil house shot. That's why the Odyssey "hooks" more than your Battle, WMB, and the other 20 balls you bought for "heavy oil". The other possibility is that there was a lot of carry down after Saturday Rock N' Bowl. If there's a ton of carry down, nothing can look good. You have to go way around it one way or the other.

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crankncrash · « **Reply #43 on:** January 13, 2008, 03:27:40 PM »

will do Roger.

toomanytenpins · « **Reply #44 on:** January 13, 2008, 04:22:21 PM »

i am so glad u were there to see the shot the lanes my balls reactions as well as that of others .because i post does not open me up for your personal attack or unwarranted criticism .you dont like what i post dont read it .bit you dont have to attack me for what i say about a stupid ball.you like what you like and i have the same right .I am truly sick of premodonnas and butt heads attacking people for their opinion. your synopsis is dead wrong and u founded .Burt i guess thats what prejudice was founded on too.
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toomanytenpins · « **Reply #45 on:** January 13, 2008, 04:24:32 PM »

i am so glad u were there to see the shot the lanes my balls reactions as well as that of others .because i post does not open me up for your personal attack or unwarranted criticism .you dont like what i post dont read it .bit you dont have to attack me for what i say about a stupid ball.you like what you like and i have the same right .I am truly sick of premodonnas and butt heads attacking people for their opinion. your synopsis is dead wrong and u founded .Burt i guess thats what racism and bigotry were founded on too.
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