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rockerbowler18

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The Cell sucks...
« on: November 05, 2008, 09:12:21 AM »
Just not a big fan. I've tweaked coverstocks. I've thrown it on multiple conditions, I've played different lines. I've done a whole mess of stuff with this ball, and I just don't like it.

Hell, I even waited 'til Obama was elected, but still, no Change. (maybe that's not the change he was promising?)

Anyone else have problems with the ball? If so, what did you do to fix them?

Mine's drilled pin above ring finger, MB out at about 30*.

Just not a great peice, but I don't wanna cut my losses on such an expensive ball, especially when it's supposed to be such a great one.
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mrbowlingnut

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2008, 09:02:46 PM »
Mine was not that great until putting Valentino's snake oil over 2k abralon, now it is still good for about 15 frames but I usually score over 220 every first game now. For 4 weeks the low first game was 236 I had a bad game after the 4 weeks in there of measly 218, dang ball could only muster a few 3 baggers in there.

Seriously not joking either it was way too early and was not great until the correct change was finally figured out.

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2008, 09:09:46 PM »
There is no black and white answer to your problem.

At every surface you used, on each pattern, there was probably one potential change that might have helped you. Just listing all those patterns and all those surfaces for that one drilling is not presenting one problem, but a whole series of problems. So there is no one solution to all those problems.

At this point it might easiest to just sell the ball as long as it's only one drilling to maximize your return..
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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2008, 11:13:53 PM »
Hey Rob,
       Give Victor a call at 800-369-4402 he should be able to help you out...


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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2008, 02:00:44 AM »
Rockerbowler,

Something I did to mine that may work for you as I was having the same problem with the ball rolling off my hand...

I placed a weight hole at P4 (MoRich Gradient Line drilling) which is on the MB.  I have pretty much the same layout as you and wanted to increase the differential to get the ball down the lane a bit farther and try and reduce the instant roll.  I then took it down to 800 Sheen with Valentino's Resurrection and I know have a ball that handles the big oil but doesn't not start to roll right off my hand...Really has made the ball quite amazing for the big oil. It was money on our PBA Experience Shark Pattern...

Hopefully this helps!

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J_L_B

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2008, 03:03:16 AM »
The Cell is probably one of the most versatile balls in my bag and on the market in general.

I seriously doubt you've tried it at all those grits and polishes on all of those patterns you just listed.

Keep trying different things, call Storm's customer service number for help and if that still doesn't work, remember, it's never the ball that sucks, retard.
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dizzyfugu

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2008, 05:15:02 AM »
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Not everyone matches up with the same equipment...


Yes, this happens. Personally, I am battling with my Smash Zone right now and get more and more the impression, that the ball and I do not match up well. I think the RG is simply too low for my lower spee style, and paired with the pretty aggressive/responsive coverstock I have big control and effectiveness issues.

Sad, but it happens
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mmcfarland300

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2008, 07:32:42 AM »
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The Cell is probably one of the most versatile balls in my bag and on the market in general.

I seriously doubt you've tried it at all those grits and polishes on all of those patterns you just listed.

Keep trying different things, call Storm's customer service number for help and if that still doesn't work, remember, it's never the ball that sucks, retard.


Why would he come on here and ask for help and then make up surfaces and patterns.  No need to be a D@ck about it.  

I know a few people who did not match up well with the Cell they typically were high rev one of which was a Pro Shop owner who tried everything under the sun to get the reaction he was looking for and couldn't.  

Rocker not everyone will match up with everything.
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J_L_B

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2008, 11:59:05 AM »
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Why would he come on here and ask for help and then make up surfaces and patterns.  No need to be a D@ck about it.  

I know a few people who did not match up well with the Cell they typically were high rev one of which was a Pro Shop owner who tried everything under the sun to get the reaction he was looking for and couldn't.  

Rocker not everyone will match up with everything.


I made the blanket statement (that most people agree with) that it's never the ball that sucks. If he took it personally, that's on him.

Did you see the grits, polishes and patterns he listed? 3 grits, 2 polishes, and 8 patterns. You seriously think he's tried all 5 surfaces on each of the 8 patterns?

He made the subject line "The Cell sucks" to get attention, well now he's got it and has to live with it.
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mmcfarland300

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2008, 01:06:34 PM »
I made the blanket statement (that most people agree with) that it's never the ball that sucks. If he took it personally, that's on him.

Did you see the grits, polishes and patterns he listed? 3 grits, 2 polishes, and 8 patterns. You seriously think he's tried all 5 surfaces on each of the 8 patterns?

He made the subject line "The Cell sucks" to get attention, well now he's got it and has to live with it. [/quote]

Is it necessary to try it on all 8 patterns?  If he makes multiple adjustments per each pattern isn't that enough.  I could see if he tried 1 or 2 surface adjustments but like I said I have seen at least 3 people off the top of my head that the Cell didnt work for all are High Rev High Speed people.
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EboHammer4ever

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2008, 01:07:50 PM »
Rocker, I too had a problem with my second Cell drilled this way.  My first Cell I drilled 4 x 4 with a 2 1/2" pin buffer and that ball was great for me as I think of myself as a Tweener with above average revs and medium ball speed, but this is not a backend layout by all means, it arcs the entire lane but I will agree with you that it does not match up well on the heavy oil shots like the Shark pattern as it just doesn't dig hard enough.  Maybe a pin under layout it would, but there are other balls that are better.  I drilled my second Cell with the 5 x 3 layout which ends up to be almost the same as yours.  I was expecting the big backend reaction out of this one and was totally disappointed.  I tried it with Black Magic and Bean's Secret sauce and it was really erratic in the reaction I got.  I finally resurfaced it on our Haus machine starting with 360 grit and going all the way to 4000 abralon and leaving it as is off the machine.  This has given me the most consistant read and backend out of this ball.  But it still will not have the backend reaction of say a Paradigm which I compare all skid/flip drilled balls to.  I think the weight block is just too big to let it rev up.

Now I just recently drilled the Cell Pearl and that has a much more angular backend reaction then the second Cell I drilled and that has everything to do with the cover on it and actually I think it can probably take a little more oil than the original Cell.

But I will agree with the other guys here that sometime this ball does not match up with certain people.  For me, I love it.  Hope that helps man.

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ElectricLeftSlider

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2008, 01:45:31 PM »
I've given my ¢.02 not to recently about this ball loosing it's reaction after 6 games. I've hit it with 4000 grit abralon. It worked for 2 weeks, then it went back to loosing it's nice angular motion.
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backswing_aplenty

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2008, 02:20:26 PM »
Did anyone recognize what was working on the patterns he bowls on?  Less aggressive symmetrics, low mass bias solids, and cleaner cover with stronger core.

He must bowl on some hooking synthetics or wood.  I would never recommend this ball to a high rev player who likes to use the Playmaker, Smash Time and Avalanche Pearl.

Trying to use a Cell when an Avalanche pearl is working is going to make the Cell "suck."

No matter how much oil is applied, if the lane surface has friction everything's going to hook.  An oil ball like the Cell is not neccessary for you.  

Sell it and get a Cell Pearl if you HAVE to have a Cell.


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Fluff E Bunnie

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2008, 05:33:00 PM »
The Cell is the opposite of suck.
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rymacatthedisco

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2008, 06:37:53 PM »
my cell at 4000 abralon and beans sauce still out hooks all my equipment on winding road and dead mans curve sport patterns. at 1000abralon im able to swing the cell from 12 to 6 on route 66...the ball is a beast. mine is drilled pin under fingers on center line with the cg kicked slightly and the mb in the 430 position. the ball is a monster and i have decent hand around 375 and 18 mph...so maybe you should try a new drilling
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themachine300

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Re: The Cell sucks...
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2008, 09:41:55 PM »
If have truely thrown the ball on 8 different patterns with different surfaces, its time to let the ball go.  Why would you want something that only works every once in awhile.  IMO, ditch the ball asap and try something else that is more versatlie that you can use more often.  

Some balls are drilled bad while others don't match up well for that person.  The ball in general doesn't suck, but for your style, that drilling, I guess it does.
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