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Title: The Rush
Post by: PJM300 on September 10, 2003, 08:29:33 AM
The Rush pic and stats are up on Bowlingballreviews.com.  Looks awesome.

Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: laner7pin on September 10, 2003, 11:45:44 PM
Saw the pic of the rush and OMG those are some ugly colors. Hopefully the ball in reality wont be that bright. Looks like new core though, change the color and I'd get one...
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: charlest on September 11, 2003, 06:20:34 AM
Seems like the replacement for the Silver Streak has arrived ....
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: TECH SUPPORT on September 12, 2003, 08:41:10 AM
I buy balls for performance screw color.I had a apex intensity that was ugly but people would actualy cringe when I brought it out of the bag."They knew they would be donaters"
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: cosmo on September 12, 2003, 03:42:24 PM
RotoGrip fan club members rec'd an email from Roger that contained a pdf file data sheet in color for this ball. It says the colors are Purple and Jasper Yellow - whatever. It is one ugly looking ball, but who cares if it strikes!


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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: charlest on September 12, 2003, 03:43:10 PM
Does anyone know the proposed release date for the Rush?
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: pnj1967 on September 12, 2003, 05:46:21 PM
October 13, 2003 is what I received for the ball to be in the Pro Shops.
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: PJM300 on September 14, 2003, 04:49:51 PM
Wanna see a cool looking ball  click on the picture of the rush and highlight it as if you were going to copy it.  Sea blue with electric green.  Pretty cool looking to me.

Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Mustang Guy on September 17, 2003, 10:06:57 AM
The new Rush is definititely a different look than anything Roto Grip has or has ever had.  This is a super low RG ball with an all new solid reactive coverstock.  This ball definitely picks up strong in the midlane and really continues with a hard arc to the pocket.  I have thrown a few now and have noticed this ball truly does well on medium patterns to medium with carry down to heavier patterns and even some heavier patterns with carry down (depending on player style).  I am really excited about this ball as it is something very new for us.  For any of you backend nuts out there, do not think this ball is going to react like the SS pearl.  This is not a skid flip ball at all.  If you need control, with a predictable strong look, hard hit, this is your ball!

Thanks,
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Roger Noordhoek
Technical & Customer
Services Manager
Roto Grip, Inc.
Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Doc Hollywood on September 17, 2003, 10:26:24 AM
MG - So does this ball rev up like a V2 and how well does it retain the energy to the back end.  What surface have you thrown with it and what drill pattern have you thrown.
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Jeffrevs on September 17, 2003, 10:53:29 AM
Sign me up !!
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Edited on 9/17/2003 1:48 PM
Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Mustang Guy on September 17, 2003, 12:17:39 PM
Doc,

So far I have used it on 3 different shots.  Not exactly sure about units but I do know the oil lengths.  All typical house shots.  

1.  36 feet with medium oil volume.  less oil outside than in.  
2.  40 feet heavy and flat.  
3.  32 feet heavy in the front with an OB 5 board out.  

I have been able to bowl on all 3 conditions with this ball with no trouble in hitting the dry boards to soon and still getting great continuation on the backend.  I have not yet matched mine up against the Top Fuel, but I did match it up against my Silver Streak Solid.  With the SS Solid I have to move 5-8 boards Left (LH) and the ball goes a good 2-3 feet longer.  I haven't done any testing with the CATS yet so all my analysis is based on what I see with my eyes.  All test balls I drill are layed out with a tall label pin position at 11:00 from the fingers.  This is about a 5" pin to PAP for me with the cg in the palm and the "MB" inbetween the first track line and the thumb.  

I hope that gives you some more information.  I will post more later and if you have any other questions let me know.

Thanks,
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Roger Noordhoek
Technical & Customer
Services Manager
Roto Grip, Inc.
Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: charlest on September 17, 2003, 01:00:14 PM
Roger,

When you say, "With the SS Solid I have to move 5-8 boards Left (LH)",
does "LH" mean you are left-handed (it's not in your profile); so, you are moving further outside??

Thanks.

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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Jeffrevs on September 17, 2003, 01:44:38 PM
Charlest,

Good question.........I was thinking the same thing

Roger..............  ????????????  Inquiring minds want to know.....thanks
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Mustang Guy on September 17, 2003, 03:38:38 PM
Haha Yes I am Left Handed.  So is Hank  

I am sure that is going to open a can of worms...The Silver Streak Solid was going longer than the Rush and making a sharper move at the breakpoint.  My Rush flared about 4 1/2" and my Silver Streak flares about 6".  

Thanks,


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Roger Noordhoek
Technical & Customer
Services Manager
Roto Grip, Inc.
Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Jeffrevs on September 17, 2003, 03:41:44 PM
Cat's out of the bag now Roger !

So........is the Rush as strong, just not as angular ?? More smooth ?
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Mustang Guy on September 17, 2003, 04:10:55 PM
Naturally because the Silver Streak goes longer and has a similar amount of differential that it will have more energy for the backend than the Rush.  The Rush really picks up sooner and has a very strong smooth continuous backend motion.  

Thanks,
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Roger Noordhoek
Technical & Customer
Services Manager
Roto Grip, Inc.
Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Jeffrevs on September 17, 2003, 05:35:16 PM
quote:
Naturally because the Silver Streak goes longer and has a similar amount of differential that it will have more energy for the backend than the Rush.  The Rush really picks up sooner and has a very strong smooth continuous backend motion.  


OK, I expected that !  Makes sense, especially if the SS is also factory polished at 1500.....duh Jeff, .......duhhhhhh
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Mustang Guy on September 18, 2003, 10:23:56 AM
Karl,

I am not quite sure yet as I haven't matched them up right next to each other.  I can say that by looking at the core characteristics and by watching other people throw the Deuce that the Rush definitely gets into a roll sooner and makes a stronger defined move.  The Deuce might out right hook more, but in a different part of the lane.  I do think you see more mid lane roll in the Rush.

Thanks,
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Roger Noordhoek
Technical & Customer
Services Manager
Roto Grip, Inc.
Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Next Level PS on September 18, 2003, 10:49:09 AM
Mustang Guy, the Rush Core looks a little Track EMB ish what you think?.... they do have different RG factors before drilling.
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Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Mustang Guy on September 19, 2003, 02:42:24 PM
I do recall when we were first designing this one that the EMB was the first ball that popped in my head.  But to be honest how many different core shapes are really possible with out getting somethign that might "look" similar?  It is bound to happen and has with many companies bowling balls.  The reaction of this ball though will not be anything like an EMB.  

Thanks,
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Roger Noordhoek
Technical & Customer
Services Manager
Roto Grip, Inc.
Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: omega on September 24, 2003, 09:28:56 AM
Hi Mustang, How would compare the Rush vs Top Fuel.
Title: Re: The Rush
Post by: Mustang Guy on September 24, 2003, 10:18:22 PM
My Rush definitely rolls heavier in the mid lane than my Top Fuel.  Due to the LOW RG of this core and our new coverstock this ball rolls sooner and handles some more head oil than the Top Fuel.  I still love my Top Fuel, but when you want flat out hook, roll and plenty of continuation with good hit on medium to heavier oil this Rush is it!  This is a must have in every bag as it reacts like nothing else.

Thanks,
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Roger Noordhoek
Technical & Customer
Services Manager
Roto Grip, Inc.