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Equipment Boards => Roto Grip => Topic started by: vkowalski1970 on December 23, 2013, 10:17:01 AM
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Love my Disturbed and was going to buy the Asylum, but what concerns me is I think I need something with a bit different shape. The Asylum just looks too close....I am throwing the Disturbed at 500/1000/2000/3000 on fresh. Its great but right now I am using a Nomad Solid(4000ab) as the ball down, which is a great ball to go to, but I like to keep it in my closet and only pull out for tourneys(Its my favorite ball ever). So basically I want to put the Nomad back in the closet, what should I look at, something clean with some punch like the Nomad...???? I usually put some surface on the ball, never really throw anything polished unless lanes are fried. Im also drilling a 2013 Shout today I got on ebay for $44 shipped NIB....Im going to put my Blackout away too( 2nd favorite ball of all time) Will take Shout to 4000
Balls Im considering...
Hyroad....had one years ago but drilled long pin(5.5) and pin way up....was very oil sensitive, thinking 4 in pin to pap and 50-60 VAL angle
Reign On.....Looks super strong though
Fusion.....Have to wait to Feb and may not be a clean as I want
Light Out.....this ball with some surface intrigues me...
Any other suggestions.....Im higher tilt and usually struggle with polished peals
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Have you ever given any thought to a Deranged with the same layout? If pearls are touchy or squirty for you, you could hit the surface with 2000 or 4000 abralon depending on how much squirt you see.
I put the same layout in a Deranged that I had with the Disturbed and see the same motion at the break point. The Deranged just pushes easier for me when the Disturbed is too early.
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What about rumble? Love mine, thats what I pull out when my disturbed is burning up...
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I am looking at the Up Roar or Lights Out as well. You could also go with the Deranged or an Asylum polished?
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I went lights out. Drilled 40x4x60 p3. 4000 surface. It's damn strong. I am shocked!! I think it wil be perfect
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What about rumble? Love mine, thats what I pull out when my disturbed is burning up...
The Up Roar is the pearl version. So you may like that when your Rumble is too much
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I got shatter and wrecker for when rumble burns up.. :)
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I use a pin down original Cell Cytoplasmic Solid Reactive P3000 which I am guessing is about the same total hook as a Disturbed same cover prep. I consider it my heavier ball. I can go to a pin up Rumble at P4000 and see no issue with the burn though the control type solid 55M cover may not carry as well as a pearl Uproar or Deranged from inside. It also depends on bowlers stats. and lane conditions. Lanes could be carried down and a solid to me is a better option than a pearl for the most part on carry down. So, many factors to consider there is no one way to make a definite statement.
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My Disturbed and Totally Defiant couldn't compliment each other better.
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I have a low rg layout in a Wrecker and a pin under ring finger in a Deranged that I can step down to. Both work great, just depends on what look I need.
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I told my pro shop guy to do what he has to to get the Disturbed usable. The way it is now( oob) the ball is awful. If I miss a little in ball goes through nose. A little miss outside ball leaves 2,4,5 or worse. He usually nails my equipment but this time he missed. So many people rave about this ball so I just must not match up well with it. Anybody tried 4000 polish with ball?? What about 3000?? 1st Roto ball I have purchased. Could be the last!!
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ryguy119,
Don't give up on the Disturbed yet!!! The ball is just flat out strong! May want to polish over box finish. I am considering polish on mine as our house has went to a 37' pattern and at 3000 I am having to swing the ditch. Went 191, 264 and 184 1st night of league. Its definitely a keeper....
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You made me laugh!! Thanks!! Last chance tonight. Told Jack Jurek, who does my stuff, to do whatever he thinks he has to, so I can use ball again. Otherwise it will be on alley ball rack. Thinking about 4000 polish but I will let him make the call.
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Before you put it on the rack, let me know...I will take it!!
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OK Will do!!
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I'd love to have another Disturbed,.... that ball strikes!!!!! ALOT!
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I think i am the only person I know who doesn't like the ball. I have it OOB and have a pin up drilling. If Jack can't get it right for me I will let you guys know.
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There may just not be enough oil where you are bowling to use it. I'd just keep it for Tournaments when I need something that hooks.
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I like that idea. I sometimes try to force using the ball and it hits like a marshmellow. Sometimes when I get something new I use it when I know better. Miss in ,through the face and if I slightly miss out , I am lucky if ball hits headpin. Will try at 4000 polish and see what happens. I'm afraid it will overlap my other stuff but I hate not using it.Might try pin down drilling as well. I have pin up now.
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take your shoes off and try again the following week.
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4000 Polish is a monster jump from ob. I'd try 4000 first
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I throw my lights out behind my disturbed n I like the lights out better. I can't put this thing down. Already paid for itself several times. Very shocked more people aren't using it, I think they r missing out. 5x4 pin up.
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vkowalski1970
I typically push the Marvel-S as a step up for when the customers want similar shape but more continuation than a Disturbed. When the Disturbed pukes, the Marvel-S has really close shape, just more responsive.
The Asylum is pretty close to the Disturbed, just has more of an angular move off the point. I don't quite feel the Asylum handles oil as well as the Disturbed, whereas the Marvel-S handles oil arguably as well or better than the Disturbed while still making a more pronounced direction change (than Disturbed).
Hope I've helped
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I did take ball to 4000 abralon. Threw 1 time practice and left weak 10. Switched to iq pearl tour and shot 695. Will try again tonight at a wood house with slightly more oil
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Can't throw just once. Lol. Sounds like you are bowling on dirt
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Even at 4000 abralon I still get same reaction. Miss in, through the nose. Miss out 2,4,5 or worse. It should not be this touchy on a pretty easy shot. Going to practice today and give it 1 more chance . If still touchy, ball will be for sale.
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Wow. Must really be bowling on dirt. My charges back if I miss out and if I miss in it holds pretty well. But I'm bowling on newer synthetics with 41ft med oil. Ob was too strong. I'm picking up an asylum today to compliment it