Wait for the Ink, the Hustles are a little too much ball for the burn without layout adjustments and surface.

The PRO and SAY came out first. Both have hybrid covers. The PRO is a little earlier and smoother while the SAY is cleaner and stronger off the spot.

Then it was the RIG and POW. Yes, they have the same coverstock and are the cleanest of the line.

And now the INK is coming out. From what Luke said in his threads and the review videos he's posted it looks like a tremendous ball. Obviously the earliest of the five with a solid coverstock (that reacts like you would think) and from the looks of it has a really consistent shape even from different angles.

But would I recommend any of them for the burn? Nope. The Hustle line is quite strong for the intended use. Especially considering the core used. You're trying to peg a triangle block into a square hole using them when it's too dry. They might work for those with lower revs and higher speed, but I wouldn't gamble otherwise. These are balls for medium and just shy of medium conditions.

I would look elsewhere... or get your hands on a Hectic if you can. That's the most recent ball that works for dry lanes from Roto Grip. It's retired now, but they're still out there.

The PRO and SAY came out first. Both have hybrid covers. The PRO is a little earlier and smoother while the SAY is cleaner and stronger off the spot.

Then it was the RIG and POW. Yes, they have the same coverstock and are the cleanest of the line.

And now the INK is coming out. From what Luke said in his threads and the review videos he's posted it looks like a tremendous ball. Obviously the earliest of the five with a solid coverstock (that reacts like you would think) and from the looks of it has a really consistent shape even from different angles.

But would I recommend any of them for the burn? Nope. The Hustle line is quite strong for the intended use. Especially considering the core used. You're trying to peg a triangle block into a square hole using them when it's too dry. They might work for those with lower revs and higher speed, but I wouldn't gamble otherwise. These are balls for medium and just shy of medium conditions.

I would look elsewhere... or get your hands on a Hectic if you can. That's the most recent ball that works for dry lanes from Roto Grip. It's retired now, but they're still out there.

hectic was in the hp2 line wasnt it? wouldnt that make it a stronger ball? lolor are you saying bc the core was "late rolling" and it's a pearl, it'd be good for dry? my speed is 18.5ish i believe and 450 rev rate( based of yt calculations on how to find rev/speed) so i could probably get the hustle line to work...as long as they arent like "see friction,make left turn"

hectic was in the hp2 line wasnt it? wouldnt that make it a stronger ball? lolor are you saying bc the core was "late rolling" and it's a pearl, it'd be good for dry? my speed is 18.5ish i believe and 450 rev rate( based of yt calculations on how to find rev/speed) so i could probably get the hustle line to work...as long as they arent like "see friction,make left turn"

Like SVstar34 said the Hectic is/was just a better ball for dryer conditions. Most of the time the categories companies place their product in is generally the right area, but that's not the case with the Hustle line. They're stronger than what you think HP1 should be. Definitely more so than the Loco, Shout, and Scream balls that came before.

Though for what it's worth there aren't many true "dry" lanes balls out there. Companies aren't making weak equipment anymore. That's not what sells, and the cost of production between a high-end and low-end resin is virtually the same, so they're going to push product that hooks. And you especially see a lot of "great bang/lots of hook for the buck!" type of marketing for the stuff priced lower.  Balls see friction and jump left. Just how it is. I think most are better off adjusting their line to than balling down when the shot actually burns.

Quote from: TeeP Nade on July 29, 2017, 03:35:57 PM

hectic was in the hp2 line wasnt it? wouldnt that make it a stronger ball? lolor are you saying bc the core was "late rolling" and it's a pearl, it'd be good for dry? my speed is 18.5ish i believe and 450 rev rate( based of yt calculations on how to find rev/speed) so i could probably get the hustle line to work...as long as they arent like "see friction,make left turn"

Like SVstar34 said the Hectic is/was just a better ball for dryer conditions. Most of the time the categories companies place their product in is generally the right area, but that's not the case with the Hustle line. They're stronger than what you think HP1 should be. Definitely more so than the Loco, Shout, and Scream balls that came before.

Though for what it's worth there aren't many true "dry" lanes balls out there. Companies aren't making weak equipment anymore. That's not what sells, and the cost of production between a high-end and low-end resin is virtually the same, so they're going to push product that hooks. And you especially see a lot of "great bang/lots of hook for the buck!" type of marketing for the stuff priced lower.  Balls see friction and jump left. Just how it is. I think most are better off adjusting their line to than balling down when the shot actually burns.

 

And that's what me frustrating about the modern equioment; It simply isn't enough volume as a whole throughout the US that puts out enough volume to take advantage of these pieces.  Even as a left hander who has to move to 3rd arrow by the 2nd game even with black widow and so forth, it's demoralizing as they continue to get stronger and stronger with less and less oil.

I bought a used Hectic, put a motion hole layout on it, and it is definitely better for the burn than the Hustle POW. My Hustle POW has a skid/flip layout on it, but it is earlier than the Hectic off the friction. It also makes a quicker turn. I'd say it is more for medium oil, even with the layout I have (it has handled staying in the oil quite well). And despite having motion hole, the Hectic is not flippy. It gets pretty good length and is in between being smooth and flippy. It does not like as much oil as the POW.

Hectic is the much better ball for burn.  As far as hook, you can pay ZERO attention to HP1 or HP2 designation.  Hectic is in the same line as the Show Off.  Let that sink in for a second.  Hustles before the Ink are just not good.  Way too much ball for dry, and by the time you adjust the covers to where they need to be, they're even stronger, but by then, you've moved yourself up into a range where there are several other better options. 

Ink will not be a good true dry lane or burn ball because it's too strong off friction.  Great on light to medium fresh shot, not so great on true burn.  Hectic is much smoother and more controlled reaction, very slow off friction, it was the best true dry lane ball on the market after the Ride was discontinued.  I don't like the Tropicals because they're waaaay too sensitive.  Hectic maintains a much better balance and has a truer roll.