My Desperado just came in today. I bought the ball to use on shorter patterns and/or the drier stages of tournaments. Ball is 15 lbs 04 oz, 3-4" pin, 3.5 oz top weight. I've become rev dominant of late, and I'm looking for this ball to help even out things on the back. I track pretty low since I've made a grip change last summer. Axis is between 3.5-4" over and 1" up.

So my question remains how have you guys drilled up your Desperado? I'm unsure of how weak it actually is, so I do not want to drill it too weak and have it do nothing. Or vice versa, supposing it's weak, drilling it strong, and having it be too much. I was considering a longer pin, upwards of 5" away. But if there are any  opinions on the matter, I would like to hear them. Thanks!
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Penn State Mens Bowling Team

Did yours come at 4000 AB polished or 2000 AB, no polish? Mine was 2000 AB with no polish. It is pretty strong in that cover prep. As a comparison, on most conditions my Desperado with a 4 1/2" pin up( no x-hole) is about 5 or 6 left with my feet and 2 to 3 left with my target at the arrows as compared to my Natural with a 4" pin under(no x-hole). And it backends quite a bit more. If you didn''''''''t read my mini review earlier, here it is: Drilled my Christmas present 73* x 4 1/2 x 40*. Or 4 1/2 x 5 3/8 with a 2 1/2" pin buffer if you prefer. This ball is money! If you are rev dominant or speed challenged or bowl on short or burnt out conditions, this is THE ball! It would be a great option for seniors with lower ball speeds. I have used the ball on three day old ths and it is amazing how well it gets through the heads. On a fresh house shot with dry to the outside, it works well and carries well also. Great, controllable midlane read, and smooth but strong arc backend. The carry is more than I had hoped for from a urethane ball. It is a step up in power from another one of my favorites, the Natural. Probably due to the stronger asymmetrical core. For the bowler that realizes that the most hook is not necessarily the best thing, this ball is a must have! If you have some hand, this ball hooks more than enough on many conditions! I have not altered the surface yet, because it is working so good as is. I am sure you could get more length and some more backend with 4000 ab and /or some polish.

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the pooh

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Yeah mine is at 2000 grit with no polish. It's got a little sheen to it but nothing glossy. I was also thinking of drilling it with a control layout, short pin, but with what you guys said, it might be too flat on the backend? My other consideration was the 4 1/2-5" pin above the bridge. Would it be better to have the MB kicked out to help it check up faster and bleed a little backend off or have it in to help turn harder? Or even under the thumb?
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Penn State Mens Bowling Team

With your high speed, it might be better to swing the mass bias a little closer to your pap than I did mine(5 3/8"-in the thumb hole). And if your speed is really 17.5 at the pindeck, you could probably drill it a little stronger, like 4-5" pin to pap. It's a strong ball, but it is still urethane. You won't have to worry about too much backend. I would pm DaveW and get his opinion, he helped me with mine and it works GREAT!
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the pooh

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Thanks for all the input guys. I'll be drilling it up Monday, and I will comment after I throw it in practice.
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Penn State Mens Bowling Team