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Equipment Boards => Seismic => Topic started by: JamminJD on February 19, 2014, 01:09:24 PM
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I think Seismic is one of only two companies I have not thrown, I have lurked and threatened on several occasions over the last three years but never pulled the trigger.
Now I think I will, SO, my question is what is the best arsenal for league and tournament coverage, consisting of covering everything you can from A-Z in patterns?
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If it were me, I would go with this:
Venator - Can handle some oil in factory OOB. With some surface it can handle more
Long Horn - Perfect compliment to the Venator
Euphoric - Can handle med/med-long patterns - also excellent benchmark ball
Raging Bull TSE - Great compliment to the Euphoric - Also great on the busted shots
Desperado TSE - Excellent for those shorter and drier patterns.
Plastic
The only hole I see in this, is an angular ball on the lower spectrum. You could fit a Solaris Platinum in between the Euphoric and Raging Bull TSE. It would allow you to get more length and pop when you don't need the midlane. The Solaris TSE could fit in there also.
And yes, the Venator can handle some oil. It was excellent on Shark and US Open for me with factory surface. If you want just one ball for the heavies and long, than the original Raging Bull can handle that easily. This way you can keep the Venator at box surface for the med-heavy patterns.
For your THS, the Euphoric, Raging Bull TSE and Desperado TSE would suffice.
Of course, this is all relative to what your rev rate and other stats are.
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If it were me, I would go with this:
Venator - Can handle some oil in factory OOB. With some surface it can handle more
Long Horn - Perfect compliment to the Venator
Euphoric - Can handle med/med-long patterns - also excellent benchmark ball
Raging Bull TSE - Great compliment to the Euphoric - Also great on the busted shots
Desperado TSE - Excellent for those shorter and drier patterns.
Plastic
The only hole I see in this, is an angular ball on the lower spectrum. You could fit a Solaris Platinum in between the Euphoric and Raging Bull TSE. It would allow you to get more length and pop when you don't need the midlane. The Solaris TSE could fit in there also.
And yes, the Venator can handle some oil. It was excellent on Shark and US Open for me with factory surface. If you want just one ball for the heavies and long, than the original Raging Bull can handle that easily. This way you can keep the Venator at box surface for the med-heavy patterns.
For your THS, the Euphoric, Raging Bull TSE and Desperado TSE would suffice.
Of course, this is all relative to what your rev rate and other stats are.
Thanks for the help, one question what is a Solaris TSE?
Is that a ball I am not seeing or am I just missing this?
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Yes, the TSE line is the "Tournament Special Edition". The Solaris TSE is the upcoming release this month. WWRD is Feb. 28.
(https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1510355_10200383502188964_14646689_n.jpg)
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OK let's stay on the Solaris TSE how does it match up to the other TSE balls?
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More length and less midlane than the Raging Bull TSE. Less length than the Desperado TSE, but more hook downlane.
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Been throwing mine for about a week now. Main differences are the Solaris TSE is a symmetrical cored ball with the original trailblazer core. Coverstocks on each of the TSE balls are the same covers so your basically seeing differences in the cores. Raging Bull has the Horn core and the Desperado has the Isignia core. Really on the TSE line you could go by numbers and the differences are in the numbers.
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More length and less midlane than the Raging Bull TSE. Less length than the Desperado TSE, but more hook downlane.
OK, so a best from each ball line? What is the main difference between the platinum and the solaris tse?
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The Platinum cover is more aggressive than the TSE cover. The Platinum would have just a little bit more length than the Solaris TSE, but more pop/angle on the backend.
The idea with the TSE line was to take the same cover, and let the different cores dictate reaction. Using the Horn Core, Trailblazer Core, and the Insignia Core from the Desperado LE, designed for pure control.
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Been throwing mine for about a week now. Main differences are the Solaris TSE is a symmetrical cored ball with the original trailblazer core. Coverstocks on each of the TSE balls are the same covers so your basically seeing differences in the cores. Raging Bull has the Horn core and the Desperado has the Isignia core. Really on the TSE line you could go by numbers and the differences are in the numbers.
DO you have all three TSE's? If so what is the reaction shape of each as close to equal as you can get.
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the line will uses the new TSE Solid Reactive coverstock, which is medium to mild in overall strength, giving less friction in the oil and a stronger response to friction. It was designed with tournament bowlers in mind. But they are also great for your ths.
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The Platinum cover is more aggressive than the TSE cover. The Platinum would have just a little bit more length than the Solaris TSE, but more pop/angle on the backend.
The idea with the TSE line was to take the same cover, and let the different cores dictate reaction. Using the Horn Core, Trailblazer Core, and the Insignia Core from the Desperado LE, designed for pure control.
Ok Got it. I have not had a chance to read through the forum and see if there was a answer, I just starting typing.lol
I like that concept has been tried before I think in some form. Really like the black bowling balls, man that takes me back, nice to see that reaction.
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I like that concept has been tried before I think in some form. Really like the black bowling balls, man that takes me back, nice to see that reaction.
I couldn't wait myself when I heard they were doing this. I was like a kid waiting for Christmas. lol!
People like color in their balls, but I like an all black ball ;D
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What are the #'s going to be on this new TSE?
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I believe 2.48 RG, and .048 Diff. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is. I'll find out for sure.
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Man on paper to me Seimic stuff looks like a scratch bowlers dream!
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Its all good stuff, all rolls very well and very predictable....I have had 6 of their balls and liked 5 of them a lot and the one I didnt care for, was a match up and lane condition issue, not a ball issue. The Blackout is one of the best balls Ive ever thrown....in the top 2 for sure.
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Oh yeah......the trusty Blackout! I called it the THS Killer. lol. It was so easy with that ball, I felt guilty throwing it. Haha!
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And this comes out next week correct??? Havent seen any info for it except on facebook.
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9 days....Feb 28
so yes :)
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you will not regret the choice sir!
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I'm throwing the Venator, Dominion, and Platinum for my THS. I have 18 mph ball speed, but I just get where I'm comfortable and ball down as needed.
Tournament times I bring out my Stampede, Charged, and Blackout, too. All compliment each other well, which is what I love about Seismic. The pairing is amazingly easy.
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If anyone is interested in buying a Blackout, I just listed one on Ebay. Pretty sure there isn't to many left undrilled.
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I also have one fully plugged....its being plugged now and I will have back friday...i have pics of it drilled.
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you will not regret the choice sir!
Great to hear. I just ordered 5 new Seismic's.
Venator, Long Horn, Solaris Platinum, Euphoric, Desparado TSE.
So I will start with these and fill holes as I go, if needed. :D
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you will not regret the choice sir!
Great to hear. I just ordered 5 new Seismic's.
Venator, Long Horn, Solaris Platinum, Euphoric, Desparado TSE.
So I will start with these and fill holes as I go, if needed. :D
Welcome to the family! Like mentioned above...you will not regret your choice. I've personally switched to an all Seismic arsenal summer of 2012 and have not looked back since. I started with two used pieces to test the rolls...a Blackout and an Aftermath Pearl. The spans were fairly close so I used them along with whatever other brands I was throwing at the time. Four months in, I shot my first 800 with the Aftermath Pearl...and hadn't even changed the span to fit me. I was sold...I have had every ball, and multiples of each since then, except the original Desperado. The equipment is about power and control, and they complement each other amazingly. I have since sold majority of collection, only to get some Seismic presence into my local area. I sold an extremely low game Venator (I had two) to a bowling partner and he shoots 299 with it after only a week. Everyone else has been loving theirs as well. Two houses I bowl in have changed their shots from last year, and I was battling too much hook with the equipment I decided to keep. So I was able to get my hands on the Desperado TSE recently, after demoing it last November. Absolutely what I needed for this hooking shot. I aslo sought help from the bright minds over at bowlingchat.net, and have been working with one of their valued members through PM on layouts to compliment my delivery specs. He nailed the Desperado TSE and now I have two more layouts to put on my Raging Bull and Solaris TSE once I get them. The Euphoric, Raging Bull, Solaris, Desperado TSEs will be my house shot arsenal the rest of the year. I only have a Venator, Euphoria, Blackout, Epicenter, Aftermath Pearl (retired), Requiem (NIB), and Dominion as my current other Seismic pieces. I love the look of the TSE series so much that I think I can use them confidently for a full league season. All the other pieces rolled great for me at some point...but I want to continue utilizing the help of the people at bowlingchat.net to maximize the effectiveness of the equipment and my game. Re-drilling them was an option, but selling them may be the option I choose of some of the others that I did not have laid out by them. A few that I had drilled by my home shop do match my game...a couple have become condition and surface specific.
On top of the equipment, the customer service provided by Seismic has been the best ever. Great staffers and a great marketing and managing director in Ryan Press. Has the customers in mind with their direction....couldn't ask for a better group.
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you will not regret the choice sir!
Great to hear. I just ordered 5 new Seismic's.
Venator, Long Horn, Solaris Platinum, Euphoric, Desparado TSE.
So I will start with these and fill holes as I go, if needed. :D
Welcome to the family! Like mentioned above...you will not regret your choice. I've personally switched to an all Seismic arsenal summer of 2012 and have not looked back since. I started with two used pieces to test the rolls...a Blackout and an Aftermath Pearl. The spans were fairly close so I used them along with whatever other brands I was throwing at the time. Four months in, I shot my first 800 with the Aftermath Pearl...and hadn't even changed the span to fit me. I was sold...I have had every ball, and multiples of each since then, except the original Desperado. The equipment is about power and control, and they complement each other amazingly. I have since sold majority of collection, only to get some Seismic presence into my local area. I sold an extremely low game Venator (I had two) to a bowling partner and he shoots 299 with it after only a week. Everyone else has been loving theirs as well. Two houses I bowl in have changed their shots from last year, and I was battling too much hook with the equipment I decided to keep. So I was able to get my hands on the Desperado TSE recently, after demoing it last November. Absolutely what I needed for this hooking shot. I aslo sought help from the bright minds over at bowlingchat.net, and have been working with one of their valued members through PM on layouts to compliment my delivery specs. He nailed the Desperado TSE and now I have two more layouts to put on my Raging Bull and Solaris TSE once I get them. The Euphoric, Raging Bull, Solaris, Desperado TSEs will be my house shot arsenal the rest of the year. I only have a Venator, Euphoria, Blackout, Epicenter, Aftermath Pearl (retired), Requiem (NIB), and Dominion as my current other Seismic pieces. I love the look of the TSE series so much that I think I can use them confidently for a full league season. All the other pieces rolled great for me at some point...but I want to continue utilizing the help of the people at bowlingchat.net to maximize the effectiveness of the equipment and my game. Re-drilling them was an option, but selling them may be the option I choose of some of the others that I did not have laid out by them. A few that I had drilled by my home shop do match my game...a couple have become condition and surface specific.
On top of the equipment, the customer service provided by Seismic has been the best ever. Great staffers and a great marketing and managing director in Ryan Press. Has the customers in mind with their direction....couldn't ask for a better group.
Thanks for the Welcome, I have threatened for a few years to try Seismic and just never did. Now I am all in and ready to give this a go. Great to hear about the staffers and the service from Seismic themselves.
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As with any piece of equipment, it will be critical to get the layouts matching your delivery specs and surface to your intended conditions. A lot of people jump to conclusions when the ball does not work like everyone else says and doesn't give it a fair shake. But I'm working to build a stronger arsenal through the means of some knowledgeable people, which in turn has helped developed my technical understanding of my own equipment and style of bowling and what I should expect to see on the lanes based on layouts I have chosen. I wish you the best of luck with your new pieces and feel free to contact Ryan Press through facebook or Seismic's website directly if you had questions about your equipment. I have opened that type of relationship up with Ryan (having met him once at the demo as well) and he has been outstanding at answering my questions I have had. The staffers are great sources of reference as well, but I used Ryan as an example of how in tune with their customers Seismic truly is.
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I think you will find that this stuff will allow you to play lanes and conditions easier than some other companies. I can read lanes easier, allowing me to make better adjustments. Also I find I can play closer to friction without worrying about the ball going ape off the spot.
Really great stuff all around anyone I hage sold a ball to has scored well with it
you will not regret the choice sir!
Great to hear. I just ordered 5 new Seismic's.
Venator, Long Horn, Solaris Platinum, Euphoric, Desparado TSE.
So I will start with these and fill holes as I go, if needed. :D
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Isnt the Solaris TSE out today??? I haven't seen any videos and nothing is the webpage/ FB with specs .
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Isnt the Solaris TSE out today??? I haven't seen any videos and nothing is the webpage/ FB with specs .
Web Page will be updated this weekend! I will be doing a Video ASAP. Also check out my review of the Solaris TSE!
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My proshop couldn't get from the distributor today saying they have never heard of the ball. Hopefully by Monday things change.
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Seismic doesn't go through distributors. You can order straight from the company or from any staff member/sales rep. (Myself, Gunny, Mainzer) The Solaris TSE has the same core specs as the other Trailblazer core balls. The cover comes at 2k polished.
Nadertime78 where are you located? There may be a rep close to you.