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Title: VA State USBC
Post by: Smokey469 on March 10, 2008, 11:50:11 PM
Who all is bowling, and when are you going?  I lucked up this year both houses are only about an hour at most from my house.
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Title: Re: VA State USBC
Post by: BC60 on March 11, 2008, 08:29:35 AM
where is the state tourney this year?
Title: Re: VA State USBC
Post by: Smokey469 on March 11, 2008, 02:40:45 PM
Roanoke and Vinton
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Title: Re: VA State USBC
Post by: dogman666 on March 11, 2008, 02:43:15 PM
I hear banjo music
Title: Re: VA State USBC
Post by: Smokey469 on March 21, 2008, 01:02:28 PM
Anybody at all...
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Title: Re: VA State USBC
Post by: dR3w on March 21, 2008, 11:42:22 PM
May 3rd and 4th ... 1 hour from Lynchburg.

In the past the Vinton shot was a pie shot.
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Title: Re: VA State USBC
Post by: Smokey469 on March 24, 2008, 01:36:57 PM
Well I hear that's Vinton's going to be just as easy this year too, Hilltop however may be a different story...
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Title: Re: VA State USBC
Post by: I_Bowl4Money on March 24, 2008, 03:35:33 PM
I'll be there May 3rd and 4th!

Can't wait for brackets! *licking my chops!*
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  • Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: bucsfan713 on April 15, 2008, 07:57:01 AM
    I'll be there May 17 & 18.  Coming in from Va Beach
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: no300tj on April 15, 2008, 08:35:47 AM
    Hey guys, I live here in Roanoke. Good luck to all. Vinton is indeed an easy shot if you get an earlier shift. Be prepared not to slide much due to synthetic approaches. If it is raining, you might as well have a tennis shoe on. Otherwise, scores are high. Hilltop is good on fresh, then the transition can make it hard to carry. You can adjust and stay in the pocket, though. Once they start to open, the carry gets better. We bowl 24 and25 of May. Hope to see you there.
    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Mighty Buffalo on April 15, 2008, 11:41:53 AM
    I am going with Bucsfan to the state tourney.  I bowled at these places last year for the State Mixed tournament, and I would agree with the summations of both of the houses.  Hilltop was the site for team last year, and I had a really good shot at all events, but missed easy spares to take me out of contention, then went on to shoot back to back 230 games.  The people before use at Vinton were all using their least hooking equipment saying that the lanes were fried.  We stepped up on the lanes and it was like playing the first game in league.  I guess this goes to show the volume of oil that different places are known for having, especially since the VA Beach area is typically known for being on the drier side for a fresh shot.
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: AMP750 on April 28, 2008, 09:22:48 PM
    I bowled this weekend and it was not alot of fun for me.
    Vinton for team event was horrible with the approaches. The shot was nice, if you could slide. I tried every pad and sole I had and I finally had to just plant and yank the ball thru. I did shoot 592 and win $100 in the boards. I was playing 26 to 12 and the shot did not change much at all. We bowled at 8am and had fresh oil.
    Singles and Doubles at Hilltop was not as bad. For me going to where I could not slide and then going to a house with alot of slide was hard, but I finally got comfortable and I was able to shoot 630 in singles. The 1st 3 games the shot was open and slowly started to get tight. I just made adjustments but then the 10 pin became an issue. The 2nd 3 games for doubles found the shot was getting tighter, but still playable. I chopped the 5-8 off the bucket 2 times and left multiple 10 pins and end up with 562. The lack of spare shooting this weekend I could honestly say cost me 150+ pins.
    Even with the 630 and 562, I won another $100 in the pots.
    Again we bowled at 8am and had fresh oil. I was playing about 24 to 14 and had a very nice shot.
    Good luck to all!!
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: AMP750 on April 28, 2008, 09:24:11 PM
    Yes we have a tied at the top of the Scratch Singles board.
    Paul Woodruff from Richmond, Va shot 776.
    Congrats PAUL!!!
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: AMP750 on April 29, 2008, 12:16:04 PM
    Yes I am from the Richmond area.
    I have bowled at every house in the area, 1 time or another.
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: I_Bowl4Money on April 30, 2008, 09:48:00 AM
    Do you know why they are not posting the standings on the new site?

    Are they posted somewhere else?  Would like to see the numbers prior to travelling down this weekend.

    Thanks for any help.
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  • Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: I_Bowl4Money on April 30, 2008, 09:52:09 AM
    Nevermind I found it....

    http://vsbabowl.org/images/stories/documents/56th_tournament_standings.xls
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  • Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: dR3w on May 05, 2008, 11:24:31 AM
    Yeah, I did, anything you want to know in particular?
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: dR3w on May 05, 2008, 12:03:27 PM
    ok, you asked for it.

    We bowled first shift in both houses ... thank goodness, they were both pretty scorched when we were done.  As you stated Hilltop is wood, and the heads look like they have been beaten with a ball peen hammers, but that didn't seem to effect the role.  Hill top was a slightly drier THS, with good bounce on the outside.  We bowled right in front of the snack bar, and our two lanes played different, with the left lane having a stronger backend to start.  We had 10 guys there and all played a variety of shots, from the rocket to the pocket, to the tweener, to the deep inside player ... even a token lefty.  The lefty shot the best in singles, going up 8-ish with a cherry vibe.  He shot 757 scratch which put him in 4th.  When doubles came, he lost his look, despite being the only lefty ... too much over under, and he shot 615.  I played inside out with a Vapor Zone on one lane and straighter with a Venus on the other.  I actually moved left early, then had to go back right.  By doubles, the lanes really opened up for me, and I shot 690+.  Unfortunately my partner who prefers to play much deeper, stopped carrying, and shot 610+, so we wound up in 10th or 11th in scratch doubles.  I didn't see any OB, and pretty much had lots of room to play with.  For the right handers who refused to move left, and just tried to adjust with speed, they suffered.  I moved left continuously through doubles and had no problems.

    Sunday we bowled in Vinton.  Personally I had no problems with the approaches, and actually never heard anyone on our pair complain.  We bowled on 9 and 10.  The shot at Vinton appeared to start out a little longer, and I had to play a little straighter with my Vapor Zone (drilled pin up 5" from pap ... if anyone cares).  I don't think it (ball + drilling) matters in THS tournaments, where just about anyone can find a spot on the lane with their favorite ball and still score.  The only people who couldn't appear to carry at Vinton were those who played tighter.  Misses to the right (sprays), still seemed to carry ... not as much at Hilltop.  

    My best friend who started inside of me (playing about 18 to 5), didn't move much.  I played the track early and really regretted it.  The track seemed to dry out quickly.  It was 5 or 6 shots, then high shot or split, then move, and start the whole sequence over.  I started at 10 to 7-8 to start, and finished up at 16 to 5 at the end of game three.  Moving left too quickly caused my ball to squirt.  So I had to move slowly.  I struggled to 630, but our team put up a good scratch number of 3301.  The lefty had the whole lane to himself, barely moved and shot 730+.  He had a real advantage IMHO. ... (insert left handed mocking response here!).

    Of the 5 guys on our team, 4 of us shot between 1900 and 2000 ... the left hander shot around 2100.  Going in with a 214 average, I shot 1960 if it matters to anyone.  There were plenty of brackets if you wanted to get in.  I think one guy was in 40+ scratch brackets.

    I am sorry but I don't recall who was leading in scratch or handicap doubles.  I didn't hear anyone shoot a 300 at either house, but I wasn't really running around looking either.

    There were pretty big games being shot all up and down the lanes, as both houses played pretty easy.  I wish I had bowled at either house before, because I think I could have had a big tournament if I had some time to mess around with different equipment and different lines ... but then again so would most good bowlers I suppose.

    I think the difference between scoring big and just scoring decent was the ability to manage your moves, which happened quicker for me at Vinton, and a little slower at Hilltop.  Of course who you are bowling with and if they are using sponges or not makes a big difference.

    Next year the tournament is at Lee Hi (sp?) and NRV.  Lee Hi is a dump.  Old AMF equipment and I think they have Guardian.  NRV is newer and usually has a good shot, but leaning to the heavier side of medium if I recall.

    There was a note on the web site that they won't be updating the standings this weekend, since Billy Paxton is out of town or something ... I think that he owns the Vinton center ... talk about home field advantage.  

    With the tournament ending in Mid June, there is still a long way to go.

    That's my story and I'm sticking to it ... good luck holding on to the doubles lead.

    Take it easy,

    Drew
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Rileybowler on May 05, 2008, 01:28:17 PM
    quote:
    Yes we have a tied at the top of the Scratch Singles board.
    Paul Woodruff from Richmond, Va shot 776.
    Congrats PAUL!!!
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: dR3w on May 05, 2008, 01:29:42 PM
    Many moons ago, my friend and I placed first in doubles handicap and it paid over $1,400 ... not a bad payday.  Last year we finished 2nd in team scratch and handicap.  We finished 2nd in team scratch by 2 pins!  We are currently first in scratch team, but I think the scoring is good enough that we will be taken out ... you gotta hate waiting though.


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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: I_Bowl4Money on May 06, 2008, 10:29:07 AM
    I was there this past weekend of course and caught the 1130 team on Saturday and 8am S/D on Sunday.  My travelling buddy bowled 8am both days in the opposite house as me.

    Nothing is worse then going to these types of tournaments and not having enough people in your group that they put others on your pair that are only their for the social factor, throw it straight down the lane and push the oil all over the place.

    I know of one or two lefty's that shot 2100+ (GO FIGURE - ha ha ha) but for the most part, the right side was all about trying to keep up with moves and carry at the same time.  I'm almost positive it's going to take a good group of guys who are playing the lanes fairly similar to really shoot big numbers.  

    I shot just over 1800 and carried for doo doo, my buddy had a little more success because the guys that bowled on the pair all played the track or right of the track which allowed him hold to the left and bump to the right.  Not to take anything away from him, he throws it well, however, the carry factor and tricky transitions kept him from breaking 2000.

    That 40+ scratch bracket guy was probably me....luckly I only managed to lose $100 in brackets for the trip considering I bowled better than I scored.....but that happens and it's part of the game

    Good luck to everyone in the near future that's bowling.....just remember to stay on top of your moves and don't get frustrated too much if you're not carrying, you either will or you won't....trying to carry is just going to make things harder, believe me, I'm speaking from experience on this trip!!


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  • Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: bucsfan713 on May 19, 2008, 11:50:19 AM
    I bowled this past weekend.  Didn't bowl too bad.  I shot a 2041 scratch.  I din't have too much margin for error for singles and doubles.  I bowled the last shift, and by the last game, I was just throwing it as hard as I could.  I used my No Mercy Beat'n the entire tournament.  I had a good time.  We shot a 3402 for team.
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: bucsfan713 on May 19, 2008, 12:16:13 PM
    The team score was handicap.  Thanks.  I just need to find the confidence in myself to put myself in scratch events.
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: dR3w on May 19, 2008, 12:36:55 PM
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    Your team score is in the top 10 and your AE score is in the top 5.  Very good bowling again!  Personally, I recommend that everyone get in the scratch divisions.  It's not that much more money and they actually pay pretty well.  I don't get any pins and for the most part, except for one freak year that I had, the handicap scores are usually out of reach.  So really, I bowl for the scratch divisions only.


    I agree. You see some freaky handicap scores, like losing in a handicap shootout board to a 343.  In the Southeast region handicap tournament, the winner is typically in the high 800s in singles ... just ridiculous.

    I personally know the guy who is leading in all-events handicap, as I bowl in league with him, and in my opinion he is a bagger.  His doubles partner was a really bad bagger for a while, but appears to have cleaned up his act a bit.  Funny how they bowl together?

    I know it sounds like complaining, but I have come to accept that when entering a handicap tournament that there will be ridiculous scores, whether guys are sandbagging or not.  I look to do the best I can on the scratch side, hope to win some bracket money, and try to have fun.
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on May 24, 2008, 11:24:56 AM
    So exactly what kind of shot is each house using? In your opinion of course.
    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on June 02, 2008, 04:39:05 PM
    I understand the problems with the approach at Vinton has been dealt with. Looks like I will find out firsthand Saturday.
    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Smokey469 on June 03, 2008, 09:42:18 AM
    I hope so, I'll be there Saturday as well!
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on June 03, 2008, 11:53:51 AM
    Yes. From what I was told they scotch guarded the carpet and it didn't have proper time to dry. thus the players tracked it all over. But again this is only what I heard from a reliable source.
    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Smokey469 on June 03, 2008, 12:12:13 PM
    Well that would make sense, but I'll take my slickest sole just to be sure...
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on June 03, 2008, 03:59:42 PM
    Once at Pinboys at the beach I will not name the house).We bowled Sunday morning team (8:00 a.m.). Our lanes were terrible we were sticking every shot anywhere on the approaches. It was a loooonnngggg ride home. Guess those are the breaks.

    I bowl at 3 Saturday so the lanes will be changing I am sure.
    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Smokey469 on June 04, 2008, 08:32:30 AM
    Well we're first shift on Saturday, so I'm not too worried about it, but we've got 3:00 Sunday so I'm sure that will be interesting

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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Smokey469 on June 05, 2008, 07:12:26 AM
    Sunday
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on June 07, 2008, 10:01:00 PM
    Well,

    I just "bowled" at the team house today. The 3 o'clock squad. Lanes were fine. But guess what???? The approaches were sticky. This was blamed on the fact that both a/c units had compressors go out today. My how lucky was that and the temp outside flirting with triple digits.

    If you bowl there you better hope for cool days and bring everything you have to slide with.


    Geez I need to use spell check!

    Edited on 6/9/2008 8:43 AM
    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: AMP750 on June 07, 2008, 10:58:07 PM
    I had the same problem but it was 8am team shift.
    The approaches were a major joke!!!
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Smokey469 on June 09, 2008, 07:09:29 AM
    Yeah I was there for 3 o'clock too and the approaches were HORRIBLE! Not to mention it was all spare ball for me after the 2nd game, what lanes were you guys on?
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on June 09, 2008, 08:39:47 AM
    We were on 7 & 8. I shoulda brought a bigger crying towel. LOL!
    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Smokey469 on June 09, 2008, 12:42:48 PM
    They had us on 19&20, I don't recall any big scores in singles and doubles but we were way down on the end of the house, so Hondo might have a better idea...
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on June 09, 2008, 03:42:29 PM
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    They had us on 19&20, I don't recall any big scores in singles and doubles but we were way down on the end of the house, so Hondo might have a better idea...
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    I didn't hear of anything big either. Maybe I got a chance next Saturday. Yeah right, LOL!
    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on June 13, 2008, 06:51:57 AM
    Who's going to bowl Hilltop this Saturday?
    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Smokey469 on June 15, 2008, 09:29:08 PM
    How'd it go Hondo?
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on June 16, 2008, 10:00:30 AM
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    How'd it go Hondo?
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    Actually not too bad. A woman at the other end of the house shot a 300 on our squad. I rolled about average. for some reason I could not buy a strike. Every ball hit good but I guess that's just my luck. I ended up with a 747 in singles.

    Doubles was a different story. Me and my partner started off well enough but the second game killed us. Neither of us shot above 140's. Then we finished strong the last game, go figure. Maybe it was the storm that knocked the lights out twice. LOL!



    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Smokey469 on June 16, 2008, 11:51:29 AM
    Wow that sucks about the power!  I can sympathize with you on the striking, my ball was there, just some very odd carry both days.  Good singles set though inspite of it all!
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    Title: Re: VA State USBC
    Post by: Hondo51 on June 16, 2008, 01:50:41 PM
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    Wow that sucks about the power!  I can sympathize with you on the striking, my ball was there, just some very odd carry both days.  Good singles set though inspite of it all!
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    I guess we can try again next year. Same area and better lanes for the most part.