Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
RAZOR WIREâ„¢ Technical Specifications
Coverstock PRO-Glideâ„¢ Solid Reactive
Weight Block Modified Thunderâ„¢
Ball Color Purple 2-tone
Ball Finish 800-grit Satin
Radius of Gyration 2.56 (Med-High)
Differential .044 (Med)
Durometer 75-77 Rex D-scale
Flare Potential 4-6" (Med)
Fragrance None
Weights 10 - 16 lbs.
SKU# TRW
Post by: JuniorsProShop on January 29, 2004, 04:34:34 AM
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Post by: Jabroni on February 05, 2004, 02:46:10 AM
This ball gets down the lane well and really doesn't seem to want to get left in a hurry. This ball will be phenomenal for the tournament player looking for control on the fresh, or the high rev player who has trouble keeping the ball from overreacting.
Look forward to throwing this ball this weekend in Phenix City on Pattern E.
Randy R.
Post by: Rantings on February 28, 2004, 06:53:51 PM
Finish: Box
Lane Cond.: Typical house shot. (Medium Oil)
I used this ball for two games so far and it is a very impressive ball for the price. As the oil carried down my Barbed Wire was having problems getting up to the pocket with any hit. The Razor could handle carrydown without any problem. This is due to the 800 grit satin finish. Someone said already that it reminds them of an AccuTread ball, while not quite believing that it is anything like a Deuce it does play much stronger than any of the other ProGlide balls. Maybe the Razor's 800 grit finish agrees with this coverstock. I find it much stronger on the backends than Barbed yet still easy to control. Storm gets 2 thumbs up on this one.
As far as the color goes...Not sure if I like it but it is growing on me.
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Post by: BrianN on March 07, 2004, 10:00:17 AM
Short summary: Smooth roll-arc reaction, covers a good range of oil, good on weird shots, exceptional on carrydown. Can't think of another look quite like it on the market today.
Longer than a Tour Power, slightly stronger, a little more on the backend. Longer than a Deuce, not nearly as strong, much less backend. Shorter than a Hot Wire, not quite as strong, somewhat less backend. It's readily distinguishable from any of the above. Razor Wire's specs - a mildish solid cover over a medium RG core with a bit of differential - are indicative of the reaction.
One of the early reviews said "Second coming of the Tour Power". Razor hasn't quite got the same low-RG roll and it gets turned a little easier, but, yeah, it is only a hair stronger overall. The resemblance is in their controllable sport-ball character. You could force either of them snap, but by nature they both want to arc the lane. For me, I think Tour Power is somewhat better on ordinary league shots, whereas Razor is only at its best on tough shots.
Given what I'd seen of the Barbed Wire, I thought this would lope more in the heads but it wasn't like that. Like nearly all Storms, if you have a whiff of oil in the heads it will get through cleanly. Razor has a good strong late midlane roll and continuation. The coverstock is a little softer off the dry than Accutread and seems to retain energy better.
I anticipated that it would want to arc and had it drilled accordingly. This is a valid layout, but if you wanted it for a league shot I would not hesitate to add some length and backend. The biggest surprise in this ball is how well it handles carrydown. It is better than either the Tour Power or Hot Wire in this regard. When throwing it, you are very aware of the big flare working for you on the backend. To give you an idea: I was bowling on a wet carried-down condition today. Sounds amazing, but Razor Wire was handling the backends a lot better than a friend's stacked V2 Strong.
Odd thing about this ball for me - it seems to work better on the weird shots, the sport shots and breakdown conditions than on something clean and normal. I didn't care for it as a first ball out on a fresh league shot. It was too strong and wanted to setup too quickly to play outside, was too little too late to play inside. I felt deprived of area, but I think a hit of polish would make that problem go away.
So, for me, this isn't a ball I'll lead off with on league. If there's a good bit of oil, maybe it isn't the second. I think it's a resin for when the track breaks down and you have some carrydown. It plays well hitting a tube or track; there's plenty of ball here to get turned. I found it very obedient to release and speed changes.
I believe it will have an important place as a stepdown ball from my beloved Hot Wire on a league shot. It will also be an alternate look from my Tour Power on middle-length sport patterns.
Control: 9.5. Control is a big strength. Plays smoothly off a dry track or tube. If you have a rev or two to your name, a control drilling on this would make a fantastic cheapo sport or PBA pattern ball.
Responded very well to speed and release changes for me. I could shape the backends to be whatever I needed. Oddly, in this regard, it reminded me of the Granite, which is obviously a totally different ball.
Versatility: ?. I don't know how to rate it. I think of it as a 5-trick pony. Razor Wire is going to be a unique and misunderstood ball, like people who bought the Visionary Purple Ice for league shots and disliked it.
So far, it's a good sport ball, a good 2nd or 3rd ball out of the bag, excellent on carrydown, good for near-breakdown. Every serious bowler needs something like this in the bag. Yet I have trouble with it on a clean league shot. I think all my troubles here would disappear with a coat of polish.
As far as how much oil it will work on, it is not a weakling in any sense. I think you could make it work on a good range from medium light up to a heavier medium. Because it's nice and rolly, you feel like if you could find the least wrinkle with it, you could finesse a shot with it on quite a bit of oil.
Hit & Carry: 8. I thought it was a little below average among the Storms I've used. The big problem with arcing balls is they sometimes don't generate enough backend to get out the 10. That was my experience with Razor.
Post by: khescock on April 05, 2004, 03:41:09 PM
Other winner by the Bowler's Company
Post by: DrBob806 on April 10, 2004, 12:37:09 PM
I wouldn't classify this ball as a great one, like I think the old Blue Thunder Pearl & the original Eraser are, but it's still a nice ball for control. I do think that you may not like the box condition, as it is indeed stronger than Storm advertised.
Post by: 03mmyne on April 12, 2004, 02:09:47 PM
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Post by: punk77 on April 17, 2004, 03:53:10 AM
My Razor is 15# with a 3 1/2 - 4 inch pin drilled for medium legnth and maxium back end according to storms drill sheet layout #2. This ball has exceptional carry and I am pleased with the hitting power this ball generates. Its also a very forgiving ball. It recovered well when missed outside my mark and seemed to hold just long enough if missed inside. Ive had a 289,279 and 702 series in the first 2 weeks ive had this ball.
I've never really been a storm guy, but I think there winning me over. I used mostly columbia balls from about 95'- 2000. Ive been disappointed with columbias new stuff, and Storm has really hit a home run in my mind with the fear factor and now the razor wire.
The price of this ball makes it a bargin for anybody. This is just as much ball as any so called "high proformance" ball on the market today. I give it a solid 9 out of 10. No ball could ever be a perfect 10, but this ball is pretty close. Only very dry or very wet conditions will hold this ball back.
A++ on this one storm.. thanks
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Post by: janderson on April 19, 2004, 05:55:47 PM
This ball can be a good choice for medium-light through medium-heavy conditions, depending on your speed and revolutions (see profile) with slightly above average length and slightly above average back-end. While not a typical "skid-flip" type of reaction, the ball does make a strong move and hard arc at the breakpoint without rolling out. The ball was tested on a medium-length, 40-foot "Christmas tree" pattern as well as a broken-down 37 foot typical house pattern (both on synthetics). It is more predictable than skid-flip equipment, but a touch jumpy making the transition from oil to dry on fresh back-ends. Carrydown smoothed out the reaction without losing finish/punch at the backend.
The out-of-the-box surface (800-grit) and layout was a bit strong for my average ball speed and above-average revs at the breakpoint, though it did not roll out even on the broken-down house shot with dry back ends. Taking the ball surface to 2000-grit polished perfected the ball reaction for me at the breakpoint without disturbing the strong back-end. In short, it actually made the ball arc more strongly. It has been absolutely clean through the heads though personally it has not been tested on dried-out or very light heads.
Updated - on light heads where the oil was quickly drying out, the ball still pushed cleanly through the heads.
Ball Specs and Layout
Weight: 15lbs
Top-Weight: 2.4oz
Pin-Out: 4.5inches
Surface: 2000 polished
Drill: 5.5x4 (Pin 5.5 inches from PAP, CG 4 inches from PAP)
Small weighthole on PAP
Static Weights: 3/4oz thumb, 3/4oz positive
Compared to other Equipment
vs. Storm Big Hit: I expected these two balls to be close with similar cores and coverstocks, but the Razor wire makes an earlier, stronger move.
vs. Ebonite Shooter XL: With the surface polished to 2000, the Razor Wire (henceforth "RW") is very similar to my Shooter Xl (reviewed). The length is almost the same (the XL might be just a bit longer), but the RW makes a stronger move at the break point while the XL actually covers 4-5 more boards overall.
vs. Lane 1 Blueberry Buzzsaw: I have a Blueberry with very similar specs and layout to the RW. The Blueberry moves a little sooner, makes a harder turn (more skid-flip), and covers 7-8 more boards overall.
vs. Hammer Sling Blade: RW is much smoother at the breakpoint though the length is about the same and covers 3-4 less boards.
Post by: Mr Straight Ball on April 26, 2004, 03:30:06 PM
Ball driller told me, "You gotta have this ball." I am glad to say he did not lie to me.
This ball in it's shined state, along with a weak layout really wants to push down the lane on limited oil. For me it's great because normally I am left of so many people that I am fighting to hit the zone that's striking. This ball is allowing me to move right and play a lot straighter(shew). First two sanctioned games I rolled twenty-two strikes with twelve of them coming the third game. By the way, I owned a Barbed Wire for about two weeks, this cover to cover match-up is such a better marriage.
Driller told me a dull one hooks a lot, so tweak the surface for your need. This is a great piece to have if you want something that does not read the fronts and then not over react on the backend.
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Post by: Breakpoint on August 19, 2004, 03:37:50 AM
Post by: ithrowstorm on August 27, 2004, 11:15:07 AM
WAY TO GO STORM!!!!!!
Post by: ithrowstorm on August 30, 2004, 07:56:28 PM
WAY TO GO STORM!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Post by: bOwLiNgPiMp243 on November 26, 2004, 04:05:24 PM
Lane Conditions: Medium Oil
Typical Conditions: Variety of Shots
Type of Lane: All Synthetic
What part of the lane did you play? Second Arrow
Did the ball track out? Normal
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Factory/Box
What grit was the surface of the ball? 800
Likes: Great setup ball, and it reads the lanes great
Dislikes: Nothin.. it does wat it's supposed to do
This ball was wat i've been looking for, for a long time.. it's the first ball out of my bag, and its on the top along w/ my spare ball(i keep my versitle ball and spare ball on top) but yea... i drilled this up and i kept the factory finish on it, but i want to try a 600 grit on the ball, or atleast wear off the polish on the ball, but i also have to weigh the ball out, because i think it has some side weight on it that needs to be removed.... but yea.. its a leverage drilling and i have a pink slug in the thumb, and a pink left insert..(i hate it when i can find a left pink 23 lift, but not a right pink 11 lift... can i get an amen?lol) and the right is a white... it rolls beautifully..... i love it and i cant wait to unleash it on the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WUAHAHAHAH! lol but yea... if u want anything drilled up.. come to DAVE OLM'S PRO SHOP! the best in TAMPA BAY! but if ur in the Hollywood,Fla. area, go to the Will Welch Pro Shop... the best on that side...
Post by: Kevin62571 on March 01, 2005, 04:23:07 PM
First of all let me say this... IT'S GREAT FOR SPORT SHOTS!
This is without a doubt my favorite ball I've ever owned (out of about 50 balls since the last 1980's). I can throw this ball on almost any condition especially on medium-heavy to medium-dry. I can't believe more people don't throw this ball. The strong controllable arc gives me so much control compared to other balls without any loss in hitting power/carry.
If you're used to throwing skid/snap equipment, it might take a couple games to get used to the reaction of this ball. What you'll notice is that you have more control and a greater margin of error.
I could go on and on and repeat what everyone else says about this ball and I agree with everything they've said in these reviews. Just read the reviews posted below this one and you'll see that EVERYONE loves this ball and there's a reason for that.
The best thing is that it's one of the cheaper balls on the market.
BTW - The in box condition is a perfect match, I wouldn't bother sanding or polishing it before trying it. I usually like to polish all my equipment before throwing it, but am glad I didn't with this one.
Post by: tonykcgee on March 11, 2005, 04:28:49 PM
15lb
drilled 65degree pin under fingers 5/8 thumb 1/16 positive
Ball has punch (not Hawaiian punch) it keeps the pins low and the COR isn't really as high as with the other Storm stuff, but it takes those long necked geeks down like nothing else.
Thank You for reading my Review
The TONYGEE Advisory Staff
I advise tony gee what to use, when he pisses me off I sand down his head flares and polish the backend flares and blame his lack of skills for not scoring...har har har, that always kills me...that ignorant boob...yeah he wishes he was a boob because then he would be liked...well by other men though which might not be so good...ehh who cares
Post by: Rowey on March 12, 2005, 10:04:53 PM
Post by: bowlerXXL on May 02, 2005, 08:13:21 PM
Drilling: Stacked w/ pin above ring finger
Lane conditions: Lanes with half synthetic coating and half wood to full
synthetics. Oil: christmas tree- dry to 10, oiled up the
middle; also wet dry conditions.
I'm a just under a cranker, I have a great deal of hand but I don't stop and plant and I'm smooth like a stroker. This ball shines on broken down conditions or medium oil with clean backends. The carry is phenomenal. However for me if there is some carrydown or heavy oil this ball is lack luster. It's clean through the heads as many balls are and for me covers 15 boards easy. I usually play 15 to 5 standing on 29 and if the conditions are right I score big. When there's oil w/ clean backs I stand on 18 and play 12 to 5 with my hand at 9 o'clock with great results. My hangup on this ball is carrydown. It doesn't recover if you play wide leaving ugly washes and rarely leaves anything that I can pick up. It could be the drilling seeing that I don't really score well with that drilling(accuracy!!!)
Overall it's a decent ball w/ great carry. It's not a go to ball but on the right condition will yield great results.
Post by: Michael on March 31, 2006, 08:55:55 PM
Good Luck and Good Bowling,
Michael
Post by: Gunny on November 23, 2006, 10:27:39 AM
but was too strong a ball, even with the layout drilled.
specs:
16lbs. 2oz
2.48 TW
4 1/2" PIN
drilled:
Pin 1 3/4" above & to the right of ring finger
CG 1/4" below midline
MB 1/2" left of thumb in 11oclock position
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f199/04_MACH_1/RazorWire.jpg
normal angle of play 15 at arrows and 5-8 at breakpoint.
tried it oob + 4 coats of polish first, and she got through the heads and
midlane super easy with a "left turn clyde" to the pocket on the backend on a fresh shot. after carrydown i was hit with major over/under, hit the oil in the backend and it skated to the pins.
i then went to 1000 grit. smooth through the heads, slight midlane and strong turn to the pocket. very readable and consistant reaction. was able to use all three games with very little moves. went 209, 221, 246 for 676.
overall i really like this ball for light oil. too much ball for dry lanes. i did use with success on medium oil, but i was about 5 boards right than my Track Delta Rule first game and half, than was same line last game. ball is alot stronger than advertised.