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Title: Revenant
Post by: BallReviews-scodaddy21 on February 10, 2023, 10:04:36 AM
The Storm Revenant is a mid-performance offering with a pearl reactive coverstock. This bowling ball takes the Vector core and pairs it with the R3S Pearl Reactive coverstock then finishes it with Reacta Gloss polish. This core and cover combo increases ball reaction at the pins on medium to heavy oil conditions. The Vector core is symmetric but has a unique design that allows a driller the option to drill it in a way that creates post-drilled asymmetry. This bowling ball is ideal for bowlers looking for something between the Hy-Road and the Trend series of Storm bowling balls.

Color: Amethyst/Black
All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown
Coverstock: R3S Pearl Reactive
Core: Vector (14-16#)
Finish: Reacta Gloss
Hook Potential: Medium
Length: Long
Recommended Lane Condition: Medium to Heavy Oil
Fragrance: Bear Claw
Title: Revenant Review
Post by: sportshot on February 12, 2023, 01:41:57 PM
Storm Revenant

Coverstock  R3S Pearl Reactive
Vector Core (Symmetrical)
Finish Reacta Gloss Polished
Layout 5 x 4 1-1/2” Pin Buffer

Bowler Specs:
Right Hand. PAP 5” Over 1/2 up
Rev Rate 300. Tilt 20.
Speed at release 17


Review:
 The Storm Revenant is another great addition to the Storm line. The Revenant has a similar roll to the popular retired Spectre ball, but the Revenant has a better back end response for me.  I would call the Revenant a medium type of hook that fits above the Electrify but below the new Absolute or Exotic Gem. I love how this ball rolls on various conditions and it is excellent on a house shot. The Revenant hits hard and drives through the pins nicely. I liked this ball out of the box with the Reacta Gloss but took it to the shop and hit it with 500, 1000 then Step 2 until it achieved a nice shine at about 1500. This process seemed to enhance the mid lane read and create a nicer back end reaction for me. I have also sanded this ball to 2000 for a few customers and it looks great and rolls very good with more overall bite. I seem to use mostly medium symmetric balls for league but this ball plays well on the different patters I have rolled it on so far. The Revenant has been a great seller at our shop so far and the popularity seems to be growing. This would be a great addition for the upcoming tournament season.

Summary:
The Revenant is predictable and versatile.
The hit and carry is excellent.
The cover is easily adjustable for lane conditions.

Glenn Wendel
PBA Member
Storm Pro Shop Staff
gwendel@comcast.net
www.stormbowling.com

Video Link:
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Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: PD300 on February 14, 2023, 06:42:20 PM
Storm Revenant – WWRD 1/20/2023

Cover: R3S Pearl Reactive
Core: Vector Core
RG: 2.54
RG . Diff. 0.050
Finish: Reacta Gloss
Fragrance:  Bear Claw

Storm’s new Revenant is a Symmetrical Pearl piece that is good for Medium conditions.  PAP is 5 5/16 R 1 3/16 Up. Rev Rate: 400.  Speed: 16.5.  Drilled this piece with the Pin up between the fingers and CG kicked out 1” from the palm.   Out of Box ball motion is clean through the fronts with a smooth motion on the backend.  I took a 2k and 3k Abralon afterwards and it was still clean through the fronts with a stronger continuous backend motion.  I compared this piece to the Spectre, Fate, Phaze V and Night Road.  This is similar-2 more than the Spectre.  Fate was 2-2 left of the Revenant.  Phaze V is a little weaker by 1-2 boards.  Night Road is 0-2 more all around but with a stronger backend motion.  This is a good replacement if you like the Spectre or are wanting to get a medium condition pearl piece.


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Title: Storm Revenant Review by Ethan Fiore
Post by: ethanfiore313@gmail.com on February 14, 2023, 09:17:02 PM
Lane Condition
Length: 40
Volume: Medium
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS

Comments
The Storm Revenant is nothing but power. With the R3S Pearl Coverstock, it is very clean through all parts of the lane but has a wicked backend to back it up. This has been a perfect league ball for me and has seen some lane time when patterns get cliffed. The Revenant fit just above the Storm Phaze 5 and below the 900 Global Zen. This is the ball for everyone to have in there bag!

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Right 2 Handed
Rev Rate: 500
Speed: 17.5
PAP: 4 1/8 up 7/8
Title: Revenant Review
Post by: Steven.Collins913 on February 20, 2023, 03:41:16 AM
LANE CONDITION

Length: 40ft

Volume: Med

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS


COMMENTS

Likes: The ball is super clean through the heads and strong off the spot. I was shocked at how consistent this ball is off the end of the pattern. I was expecting this to be a 3rd game ball but I can easily throw it all night with no issues. The further left I got the better the ball looked as the night went on. Great ball for any bag.

Dislikes: No complaints so far.


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Title: The Revenant has Arrived!
Post by: C-MartStorm on February 20, 2023, 08:08:21 PM
Bowlers Info: RH tweener, PAP 4-5/8 x 3/4 up, 380 RPM, 13* of Axis tilt, 60* of Axis Rotation

Ball Layout: 45 x 5.25 x 35
VLS: 5-1/4 x 4 x 2

Finish: 1500-Grit

Not gonna lie, when the Spectre was taken out of my hands, I was pretty bummed.  So I couldn’t have been more thrilled for the remake in the Revenant!  I drilled mine 5-1/4 pin with a 2” pin buffer which put my pin high above the bridge.  I also hit mine with a 3000 abralon pad to take some of the OOB polish off to read the midlane sooner.  WOWZA!  Didn’t expect this much hook!  I would say that this is close to the original Spectre, with great midlane read and a strong, arc-type motion to the pocket.  Where this piece shines is probably league shot, this piece will create some honor scores, no doubt!  Go talk to your PSO about getting this league killer in your bag today!

Chris Martinez
Storm Amateur Staff
www.stormbowling.com
Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: Jdonner111 on February 26, 2023, 04:32:29 PM
The Revenant is a very versatile ball.  You can use the Revenant early if you want to play to the outside part of the lane.  You can use it also in transition because it will not overreact in the oil if you get it in and will make it back if you leak it to the outside a little quick.  The most impressive thing about the Revenant is the drive through the pocket and off the back of the lane.  The smooth continuous motion is fantastic and great for pin carry.  This ball is very close to the Spectre.  The Revenant is a little earlier and a tad bit stronger but close enough to replace that hole in your bag where the Spectre was at.  I really like the Revenant and will be going with me wherever I bowl.  Hope you already have yours or get yours soon. 




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Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: woelfelzp15 on February 27, 2023, 03:19:21 PM
I am so excited about the all new Storm Revenant! This ball features the Vector Core that has a medium RG of 2.54 and a higher differential of 0.050 wrapped around the R3S Pearl coverstock. This ball is everything that I expected it to be and more. This ball is extremely clean and controllable with a smooth transition off the friction. I think that this ball fits perfectly between my Zen and the Idol Cosmos. If you are looking for a ball for high friction centers and/or late in blocks look no further than the Revenant! Get yours at your local SPI proshop today! 

Layout: 55 x 4½ x 75
Title: Storm Revenant by Casey Murphy
Post by: caseyccg on March 11, 2023, 11:12:16 AM
Orientation:  Right Handed
Rev Rate:  400 RPM
Speed:  16-17 MPH
PAP:  4 ½ over and ½ up

Location:  Enterprise Park Lanes, Springfield MO
Pattern:  High Volume THS
VLS Layout: 
Layout 1:  5 x 4 x 2 ½  (pin above bridge)
Layout 2:  4 ½ x 4 x 4 1/8 (pin below bridge)

The Revenant is a Spectre remake.  Same core, same cover.  The Reata Gloss finish makes it a touch cleaner, but you can fix that with an 2000 or 3000 pad.  First time I threw this down the lane and it shaped I was like “OOOOOHHH YEAH, that’s what the Spectre used to do”.  You love the Spectre, grab a Revenant.
Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: Kyle.Johnson88 on March 15, 2023, 11:25:30 AM
Ball Specs:
Storm Revenant
Reacta Gloss R3Sâ„¢ Pearl Reactive
Weight Block: Vectorâ„¢ Core (Symmetrical)
Color: Amethyst/Black

Review:
We were so glad to see the remake of the Spectre with a new look and amazing smell. This ball really has some shelf appeal. The only real difference between the Spectre and the Revenant is the polish. With the Revenant having the Reacta Gloss finish you will probably notice just a touch more length if you got the chance to throw the Spectre. Our style: tweener, 350-375 revs, 16.5mph, layout of choice is 4x4x2 (pin is above bridge). This is one of those pearls that really fits well as your first out of bag. Most times for us pearl covers work a little better later in a block. The R3S is so clean through the fronts that we really see some potential coming earlier or being that first out of bag bowling ball. Due to it being so clean through the fronts that will also create some versatility. After a few initial games we knocked the polish off the cover to see its full potential and it really impressed us. This will be a great ball for many players with its shelf appeal and ability to play different parts of the lane.

Kyle, Joel, & Dean Johnson
Storm Pro Shop Staffers
joel@parklanes.net
kyle@parklanes.net
dean@frontierfuncenter.net
www.stormbowling.com
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Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: TBenner300 on March 27, 2023, 09:42:00 AM
The Storm Revenant is the replacement for the Spectre.  It features the same Vector core with the R3S pearl reactive coverstock.  The Revenant at 15lbs has a RG of 2.54 and a differential of .050.  I drilled my Spectre pin down and it was a tad weaker than what I wanted so I drilled the Revenant 5 x 4 x 2 putting the pin above my middle finger.  The ball reaction I got out of the Revenant was completely different than the Spectre.  The Revenant, when it saw the dry made a tremendously strong move to the pocket.  The Reacta gloss finish on this medium rg symmetrical ball made it incredibly clean through the front part of the lane and when it got off the pattern the ball just made a left turn to the pocket.  The first game I threw with it I had 268 but I tripped 3 or 4 nine pins late.  That just shows how much entry angle and continuation this ball had.  I would recommend using the Revenant on flatter patterns, as the typical wet/dry house shot can create quite a bit of over under with this ball.  Taking the polish off will quell the backend reaction a bit but this ball is still one designed to open up the lane.  Definitely not the first ball out of the bag, but when the time comes to take it out, it will probably be the last ball you need for the night.
Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: PJ Haggerty on March 27, 2023, 05:21:40 PM
Storm Revenant Ball Review by PJ Haggerty

One of the newest additions to the Thunder line at Storm is the Revenant.  With an RG of 2.54 and differential of .050, the Revenant fits a perfect spot in my arsenal.  If you were a fan of an Hy-Road, the Revenant can scratch that same itch.  The Vector core and R3S pearl reactive coverstock provides players with length, a quick response time, and plenty of pop through the pins.  It’s been a ball that I’ve used when the lanes have more friction and we need to create angle.  It’s also been very competitive when I see older/more beat up lane surfaces. 

I’ve drilled one so far and really like it.  I’ve drilled it with the following layout: 4.5 x 4 x 2.5.  This puts the pin above my ring with a small shift of a CG and I also adjust the surface down to 3000 by hand, just to smooth off the response time a bit.  After the bigger cored asymmetrical balls start to bog down or not kick the corners, the Revenant is a perfect ball to go to. 

I have noticed some of the lower rev rate players really like the Revenant because they can keep it in front of them, not have to move their feet all over the lane, and still maintain a great motion down-lane. 

If you loved the Hy-Road like many did, need a ball for older lane surfaces, or for lighter volumes, the Revenant should be next ball you drill!

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Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: chasev97 on March 28, 2023, 02:15:54 PM
Revenant is the return of the Spectre. This ball features the R3S Cover, which is a step up from the flagship R2S formula. For me, the Revenant has been a great 2-ball to go to off of earlier shapes like the Phaze 2 and TNT. Revenant provides the perfect ball down when the lanes start to hook more front-to-back. The higher RG of the core adds length and helps the ball float through the earlier friction as the lanes transition.
Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: peterdohanjr on March 30, 2023, 10:44:36 AM
Storm Revenant Ball Review

Bowler Stats:
Speed: 15.5 MPH
Rev Rate: 300 RPM
Tilt: 3-5 degrees
Axis Rotation: 60 degrees
PAP: 5 ⅜ over 1 ¼ up

Layout: 5 X 5 X 2 ¾ VLS

With the removal of the Spectre from the line I was missing this core and cover combination. I matched up well with the Spectre so when Storm decided to release the Revenant which has the same Vector core and R3S coverstock I was excited to drill this one. I changed my layout from the 4 ½ pin placement on the Spectre to a 5 inch pin to give me a little more length so I can use the Revenant in later games during tournaments on patterns.

The out of box reacta gloss gave me too much length and an inconsistent reaction off the end of the patterns in league and during tournament play. I removed the reacta gloss with a 2000 pad by hand and this ball came to life. It now reads the midlane more consistently and gives me a  more consistent motion off the dry. It is quicker off the spot than the Wolverine Dark Moss but not as quick as the Night Road.

I have had success using this ball in PBA 50 competition on the Weber 45’ pattern. For league play I need more friction down the lane to have success.

 

Pete Dohan
Storm Bowling Amateur Staff
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Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: Gil B on March 30, 2023, 05:50:03 PM
The Revenant. This is an interesting ball for me. Symmetrical reactive pearl kind of a remake of the spectre. I decided to lay this one out 45/5/75. Compared to the spectre its stronger down lane for me. Really enjoying using this ball on the fresh when i really want to create some angle into the pocket. But i am also enjoying it when i kinda have to square it up and keep that angle in front of me. Finding this ball to be very versatile for me and a def keep close by emergency ball. 
Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: rotogrip_rick on March 31, 2023, 08:19:15 PM
Storm Revenant: R3S pearl reactive coverstock with the Vector Core
Layouts: 60 x 6 x 70 at 2000 grit polished and 60 x 1 ½ x 55 box condition – Reacta Gloss
My specs: Ball speed 15+, Rev rate 425, PAP 4 and up 13/16
Used on several different lane conditions and surfaces with both layouts. We first drilled the 60 x 6 x 70 and I noticed on SPL, there was not very much motion on the backend, so I tried a couple different surface changes and decided to park the ball until I got a chance tried it on different lanes. Then I tried out the 60 x 1 ½ x 55 on the SPL and as expected with the shorter pin to pap the ball read earlier and gave me a much better look on SPL. Took the 6 in pin ball to a center with well worn HPL and a lighter volume house pattern and that ball really reminded me of a Hy-Road, just a smidge smoother front to back and kept the track area in play for me. 4-6 boards right with my feet the 1 ½ in ball had a very similar look on the backend. Took both to a center with WOOD lanes and realized while it is important to have some longer pin to pap layouts – the 6 in pin ball was AMAZING. Kept the lane in play all through the night of practicing. 1 ½ pin ball did rev up because of the layout, but still had plenty of get up and go in the backend. With the 6in pin ball, the straighter I play, the better my carry is on WOOD and HPL. Both balls will serve a purpose for me when I hit up some upcoming tournaments. One of them will be the ball I start with just depends on the pattern length and what lane surface the centers will have. The Revenant is a great ball for any level of bowler. I have seen 2 handers, strokers, crankers, and anything in between use the Revenant at several matchmaker events and they are one of the most popular balls being purchased – even with the recent release of the Storm iQ Tour Ruby.
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Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: Bigmike on March 31, 2023, 08:34:27 PM
See stats in profile. I drilled my REVENANT up 5 x 4 x 2 and have thrown it with a light 3000 abralon pad on the surface. I compared it to some other pearls I throw frequently which are the DARK CODE and PHAZE V.

I have throw the REVENANT on a couple of sport patterns like Kegal Broadway and Kegel Winding Road. On Broadway, it went sideways at the start until the lanes settled down. All of the pearls above did this as they all have light 2000 or 3000 on them and something with less engine/cover were better plays. On Winding Road and our House pattern, the REVENANT was much better. I get good push down the lane when the fronts started to bog the DARK CODE down. REVENANT was a good look and when it went away, moving to the PHAZE V was a great compliment as it got further to the break point. I tried taking my hand out of the DARK CODE and just rolling it up the back and it was still too much ball.

Put this one in your bag if you want something that will get down the lane easier but still has enough smooth shape to get those pesky corners out.
Title: Storm Revenant
Post by: AlexThomes619 on April 10, 2023, 07:47:30 PM
Ball Specs: Storm Revenant
Coverstock R3Sâ„¢ Pearl Reactive
Weight Block Vectorâ„¢ Core
Color Amethyst/Black
Finish Reacta Glossâ„¢
Layout 50x3 7/8   x30 or 3 7/8x4 1/2x1 3/4
Bowler Specs:
Right Hand. PAP 3 1/2 Over 5/8 up
Rev Rate 400
Speed at release 17.5
Review:
The Storm Revenant is reincarnation of the spectre. The Revenant sits in the thunder line and is going to have the same cover and core as the Spectre. If you were a fan of the spectre youre going to love the Revenant. Finished with Reacta Gloss this ball is going to go downlane maybe a foot or two more but gives that similar strong motion off the spot. If you want it to roll the same as the Spectre I would suggest taking it 1000 grit and step two compound. This is going to be a great transition ball under a Phaze 5 but stronger than a Hyroad pearl. Get yours now at your local Storm VIP pro shop.
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Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: williamsonkm20 on April 10, 2023, 07:57:35 PM


Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):

THS & Sport

COMMENTS

Just like many others I was so bummed when I was told I could no longer throw my Spectre. Boy was I happy to see the news that we would be getting something very similar with the Revenant! This is my go to ball in leagues and tournaments. It is rare that I use a ball so equally in both settings. When I miss outside it still has enough energy to get back and at least make contact with the 1-3 and when I miss in it has amazing hold that I still never expect. I will definitely be stashing a few of these as love for a ball like this doesn't come along for me very often. 

PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: cmattingly on April 27, 2023, 09:23:06 AM
LANE CONDITION

Length: 43'

Volume: 22.5

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):THS

defined: a person who has returned, especially supposedly from the dead.

The most clever of ALL the names given to a ball, The Revenant is the 2nd  coming of the Spectre.  We know the Spectre  was banned completely, with that being said, the shape it created was pretty unique in the line.

The Revenant came into the line with HIGH expectations.  I shot 300/800 with it, straight off the press!  After that I failed to find a place for it in the bag.  I was just never what I was looking for exactly. 

I changed surfaces on it a couple times taking it to 500 then step2. With no success. Later I tried 1000-3000 and Boom, there it was!

It needs mentioned that I injured my foot and had to lay out a few weeks.  When I came back, something about the Revenant called my name.  It was exactly what I needed with my slower ball speed.  Strong, Smoother, Continuous motion!

Balls getting a lot of play
Infinite Physix: 5x4x2
HyRoad: 4.5x4.25x3.75
IQ Ruby: 5x4x2
Phaze4: 5x4x2
Fate: 5x4x2


COMMENTS

Likes: color, ball roll, cleverness of the name

Dislikes: took a minute to find the right surface


PICTURES AND/OR VIDEOS
Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: msipple on April 28, 2023, 08:16:26 AM
BALL SPECS
Pin Length:3.5 - 4 
Starting Top Weight: 2.82 oz
Ball Weight: 15
 
DRILL PATTERN

65 x 5.5 x 30
 
BOWLER STYLE:  RH - Stroker
Rev Rate:  380-420
Ball Speed: 15-16
PAP/Track:  PAP:  5 13/16” and 1/2" up
 
SURFACE PREP
Box Finish: Reacta gloss finish out of the box.  I hit mine with a 3000 pad
BALL MOTION
R3S Pearl is together anew with the Vector Core, but with a fresh veneer and more reaction where it matters most: at the pins. Reacta Gloss is cutting-edge when it comes to surfaces. Very clean with strong backend motion.
 COMMENTS
I use this on Med to light oil conditions. I am not usually not a pearl coverstock fan because I seem to get a lot of over under reactions with them. But not with this ball. I get a very consistent strong reaction.  Very clean through the fronts and strong motion through the pins.

 
Mike Sipple
Storm Amateur Staff
www.stormbowling.com
Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: DoubleBBallandDrill on May 11, 2023, 10:44:30 PM


Length: 43ft

Volume: 25.5 mls

Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS




Likes: I love how close it is to the Spectre for me. I personally loved the Spectre and was very sad when it got banned. But the Revenant is almost a perfect 1to1 replacement. The biggest difference I see between the 2 is that the Revenant for me is definitely a little bit weaker overall but definitely a lot smoother. It must be because of the darker colors in the Revenant but it’s a lot smoother and more predictable for me than the Spectre was and that’s a good thing in my opinion. But if you miss being able to throw your Spectre than look no further than the Revenant.

Dislikes: None!


Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: heavytop4 on May 13, 2023, 09:34:25 PM
Storm Revenant
#15.3

Cover: R3S Pearl Reactive
Core: Vector Core
RG: 2.54
RG: Diff. 0.050
Finish: Reacta Gloss
Fragrance:  Bear Claw

Rt. hand
Speed 14.5 MPH
PAP 3 7/8 1/4 over

Drilling: 5 x 5 x 3 VLS

The new Storm Revenant a replacement for the ever-popular Spectre is definitely a close cousin.  Drilled my go-to layout, 5 x 5 x 3 (pin above middle finger) OOB surprisingly ton of free skid.  With my slower ball speed this ball gives a great look on a THS being able to play the track area.  Hard, but predictable strong arc on the backend.  Real easy ball for me to read the breakpoint.  The ball lets me square up a bit and keeps angle of entry in front of me.  When the lanes break down, especially up front the ball really lets me stay aggressive with my release.  No worries of early hook.  Experimented with a 3000 abralon to the cover.  The Revenant turns into a smooth arcing benchmark ball for me on shorter, fresh patterns. 

Quite the versatile ball from Storm.  For a comparison longer and a tad sharper than the Dark Moss Wolverine.  Definite must have for your tournament arsenal.

Joe Arvai
900 Global Pro Shop Staff
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Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: hammermike2000 on May 14, 2023, 01:16:27 PM
Layout: 55 x 4 ½ x 35
Following in the footsteps of the Spectre, the Revenent provides a smooth, consistent reaction on medium to medium-light oil conditions. It has enough midlane read to be used for straighter angles on some medium-heavier conditions, but it is most at home on medium oil. It is very clean in the front part of the lane, and has a smooth arc the rest of the way. The Revenant is a great step down from equipment such as the Exotic Gem, Infinite Physix, or Eternity, which are all at home on heavier conditions. The Revenant has more overall motion than balls such as the Electrify GO or BSY, and is smoother than the Hyped Pearl or HyRoad Pearl.

Mike LeViner
Title: Re: Revenant
Post by: Sandy McIntire on May 19, 2023, 06:26:55 PM
I am higher speed, rev challenged 220-250ish, high tilt, high rotation, and super low track player. The Revenant has definitely become one of my favorite newer releases. I drilled mine 5x3x2 and my axis point is 3 1/4 right and 7/8 up. The Revenant is a perfect addition to my arsenal because it allows me to ball down from my Phaze V and stay right. This ball retains a bit more energy down lane but still provides the shape and continuation I need. This ball definitely does not disappoint!