Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Weight Block RADâ„¢ Motion Controlâ„¢ Technology
Ball Color Violet/Sky Blue/Black
Ball Finish 1000-Grit Light Sand
Radius of Gyration 2.53 (Low)
Differential .058 (High)
Durometer 76-78 Rex D-scale
Track Flare High (6†plus)
Fragrance Blueberry
Weights 10-16 lbs.
Post by: Mike Whitacre on February 23, 2003, 03:55:33 PM
Post by: kodak816 on February 23, 2003, 08:55:07 PM
abc tournament. This ball is the best I have
ever thrown. Reads the midlane well and has
a very strong arc on the backend. Carry is good
also. I have not rooled a Storm in years but
this ball makes me want an x factor. Also
Thanks to the people at the Storm shop for
a grate drill pattern for me. They listened
to what i wanted out of a ball suggested the
duece to me and the ball does exactly as
advertised. That may be the norm for most
but living in Knoxville I have trouble with
the pro shops here. Will probably purchase
2 maybe 3 more balls before the abc leaves town.
Any suggestions on other good Storm stuff
would be appreciated. see my profile for
more info.
Post by: thegame on February 24, 2003, 12:16:13 AM
Post by: malu0102 on February 25, 2003, 03:29:35 AM
PIN-PAP 2"
RAD in Strong position
Storm has done it again. A beautiful ball that hits like a truck. I have played 3 weeks with my 15 lbs deuce and I love it when I got enough oil. With my drilling i kind of want to leave the 10th pin behind. It kicks hard at the backend. Maybe I buy number 2 soon. I love it!
Thank you Storm!
Post by: rayrevs on February 26, 2003, 05:46:06 PM
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Post by: BrunHam on February 27, 2003, 05:13:35 PM
pin-4", above ring finger
top-3.5"
fingertip-drill
lanes were medium to medium dry.
Well, let me say that I have a X-Factor, a Track Freak Out, and a Track Mutant. This Deuce is WAY stronger than all of them! Even though the lanes were a bit dry, this ball still hit like a tank! I'm medium speed, medium revs, down-&-in! Even when I went wide(outside of 5), it still came back to the pocket(Lacked a little energy, but didn't leave any crazy splits!). If I pulled the shot at the bottom and went brooklyn, There was more than enough backend to pull all 10 off the deck!
Just a sidebar-I shot a better game with my Mutant(221)than with my Deuce(191), but I attribute that to the fact that I've been throwing the Mutant for a while. We'll see what happens tomorrow!
UPDATE: Ok, I've had this ball for a while and I have come to the conclusion that this ball doesn't fit my type of game. I've done everything from sand it to a high gloss polish and I'm finding that it rolls out and loses all it's punch. It worked ok on a synthetic lane with a broken down shot, but I am not on synthetics very often. I'll give it a little more time, but..(Plus I hate the way it smells.LOL)
Post by: Chicago Bowlers Sho on February 28, 2003, 11:19:02 PM
Punched the Deuce close to the layout I had in the X-Factor. CG 1" above the center of my grip. I tipped the pin 10 degrees off of ZERO. Or just right of 12 o'clock. The pin ended above the center of my ring finger. Keep in mind. My equipment is 14lbs. The pattern was a christmas tree house shot. Pretty easy! I lined up with my left foot on 20, and use 8 as my breakpoint. 45' down the lane. My front target was around 12. Pretty easy soft swing shot. OK. The first couple of balls went through my breakpoint, pretty fast. I was pretty pumped up to throw the ball. After claming down. The ball cleared the heads with ease. As the ball got into range of my breakpoint. The roll increased. Visually, I had no problem with the ball. As the ball saw dry. The ball wanted to recover to the pocket with a smooth sweeping motion. VERY EASY to read! By the end of the night. I moved 2 left with my feet, and kept the same breakpoint.
The ball gave me 257,258 and 228. 743 out of the box.
This is just another GREAT ball from the STORM development team.
Jeff Ash
Owner
The Bowling Store, Niles IL
847-588-1190
Post by: Mike Austin on March 01, 2003, 01:02:46 AM
I have been using this layout alot lately. 5 to 5 1/2 inch pin gets me decent length, and mass bias position gets me good read on the midlane without a big booming back end. My speed is kinda soft and I like my stuff geared for the PBA conditions. Controlling the break point and pocket is important for me.
Bowled with the ball on a broken down shot (after league) with box condition, and the ball burned up very early. Heavy roll in the midlane, nice smooth backend motion. A little bit weak, but I think would be excellent on fresh oil.
I then shined this ball with Storm #2. Not super shiny, just buffed up. May go too long on the fresh for high speed guys, but was awesome on the after league condition. Hit very hard, threw 9 in a row twice. (wasn't keeping score)
I tried this ball in a regional last weekend, wood lanes, bad heads. Worked fairly well, as I was playing out, using as little hand as possible, had good control in the midlanes. Just not quite enough length. (Shot 141 over my last 4 with a Boost drilled same layout to get a check!) The first two boards were scorching dry, and this ball did not bounce really hard off that, gave me a good read, forgiveness. Actually hooked a little less than my Tour Power on this condition. The ball used up alot of energy in the first half to two thirds of the lane. With a little more oil in the front, or better heads, this ball would have been nasty on the gutter.
Overall, I think this will be a pretty good ball. Nice for fresh oil. May flare too much or too soon to be used for dry lanes. I think the tweeners and straighties will like this ball because of the midlane revs. Not used to seeing a ball that rolls like this from Storm. Will have to drill more of these. Pretty good compliment to the X Factor, as it rolls up much earlier and smoother on the back end.
Ball hits good, and most anyone can use this ball effectively, with the right surface adjustment and layout.
Hope this helps ya.....
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Mike Austin
Mike Austin's Precision Pro Shop
Houston, TX
strikes4days@aol.com
Post by: Nolimitz1090 on March 02, 2003, 01:59:03 PM
I like this ball, we set it up to fit in my arsenal very well. Bowled on a Saturday morning shot after the juniors had finished so the condition had a lot of tracks on it. When I opened up the lane and had a nice track area the ball had no problem finding the pocket. I little bit of a problem with the carry. I would have to venture to say it was half me, half bad racks. Lets just say I shot 4 no tap 300's with the ball.
The ball had a flare pattern on it about 5" in a nice consistent bowtie. (No multiple tracks so no over under), the ball hooked right out of the oil and kept on moving, just drive (no set) in the shot. So I put it all together in game 6 and shot 226 by taking a little finger out of the ball and just let the ball do the work. I remembered what Pete Weber did in the Tar Heel Open and what Randy Pederson was talking about with Pete's release, in the "if you can see his five fingers" he released it correctly opinion.
Bottom line is the ball hits hard, drives hard, and doesn't quit. I have to agree with Mike Austin's review the tweeners and strokers will enjoy the movement on this ball. My recommendation is that this ball may not be for everybody, either talk to your pro shop operator or local pro to see if this ball will fit in your arsenal.
UPDATE: 699 My first real challenge with the ball, 214 279 206, despite the three opens I had which were my fault, The 279 was first 8, weak 10, punch.
Post by: Al Muerzo on March 03, 2003, 02:05:37 AM
Another excellent ball from Storm!
Al in AZ
Post by: K_Korner on March 04, 2003, 12:06:01 AM
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Post by: ih8stupid10pins on March 06, 2003, 12:05:42 PM
Visit my profile for my personal specs/ see my X-Factor review for layout info. Basically, it was drilled to roll early.
I used the same layout on the Deuce that I did on my X-Factor .... oops. This ball has WAY too much cover combined with a very aggressive layout. It's really tough to control this ball where I bowl normally, there's just not enough oil to get the ball down the lanes. The Deuce is approximately 8-10 boards STRONGER than the original. But, I have to keep this ball between 15 and 10 the entire way down, otherwise i'll pay the price. If this ball squirts outside 10 and hits the dry, it comes back too hard and almost goes jersey. However, when it's kept on the oil for most of it's ride don the lane, it holds its line and gets into a very hard roll.
As far as rating this ball, I give it a 9 out of 10. This ball will work great on synthetic houses, or wood houses that flood the outside of the lanes. It rolls VERY hard, and hits even harder.
If you want a Deuce, and you have a decent amount of rotation, use a length layout.
UPDATE: I polished this ball with Black Magic(black bottle) I was able to get the cover to where it read the lane better, and delayed the reaction. I'm able to keep this ball on the lane longer, and my scores have been higher. I just bought a Hot Rod to complement this bad boy, will be posting a review sometime this week on it.
Post by: rayrevs on March 06, 2003, 05:58:47 PM
ray revs
Post by: John Figueroa on March 07, 2003, 01:13:48 AM
I purchased this ball in new condition just this wednesday,
Ball specs:
15-pounds with a 2-3 inch pin
I basically was drilling this ball for more of a flat heavy oiled condition,but i used this ball on medium heavy condition or medium condition.
I basically was trying to get a feel of this ball, and i broke this ball in today at a tournament for south florida masters.
I bowled the first squad and i barely broke 600, and that was because of own fault. Then i bowled the second and final squad for thursday night, and i moved to more of an inside shot more of a fade back shot and proceed to bowled a 290 game which of course i broke the jackpot for around $281.00, wow the ball paid for it's self already.
Basically this is a solid ball, but you have to be ready to move quickly when the lanes tend to break down. I look forward to purchasing another one with a weaker drilling and plan on purchasing the first x-factor.
John
Post by: Jay350Z on March 08, 2003, 11:02:32 PM
Post by: Sharkticon on March 09, 2003, 04:04:01 PM
Lane condition: Fresh oil, christmas tree league pattern.
Drilling: Ummm.... 45 degree, pin 6" away from PAP (center of palm).
Style: Tweener, 15-18 mph.
Post by: John Figueroa on March 10, 2003, 01:41:29 AM
Like i stated in my pervious post i basically just purchased this ball and i broke it in a south florida masters tournament; We'll this ball is basically just plain awesome, and i will purchase another one plus the x-factor.
I basically finsih this tournment in 3rd place (mostly due to working over 10-hours prior to the semi-finals) but i bowled well enough to win over $800.00+ which included scratch and handicap pots.
Wow this is the first ball i ever purchased that in a short period of time, paid for it's self over and over again.
I've basically in the last year or so, purchased balls from columbia to lane #1 equipment, so now i'm basically staying with storm because the reaction and roll reaction fit my game to a tee.
This ball is a winner.
John
Post by: Mr299x2 on March 10, 2003, 02:32:18 AM
kevin
Post by: johnnynoxville on March 12, 2003, 11:37:57 AM
specs are:
16lb
2.5inch pin
2.5oz top weight
my experiences with the newer balls have told me i dont like anything drilled too aggressively so i had the deuce drilled basically over label. pin ended up next to ring finger and the RAD was in strong position right of thumb.
Had my driller shine it up since out of box would be way too strong with my game and the shot i throw on.
ball does exactly what i wanted. very controlled look and clean through the heads, it doesnt do anything crazy and is very readable. hits likes a mac truck.
this is the first storm ball i have ever thrown. i have thrown columbia exculsively for the last 10 years or so, i am very pleased with this ball and might even start buying more storm stuff. One major complaint i have is the smell......the deuce smells like blueberry.....very annoying to say the least,
during and after league last night, my hands, shirt and bowling bag smelled terrrible...way too strong, hopefully this goes away with time. i am clueless as to why they would do that.
other than that-----excellent ball.
Post by: Sharkticon on March 14, 2003, 02:11:09 PM
Post by: L.D. Gray (Wu-Shu) on March 19, 2003, 07:10:21 AM
Drill: Label Leverage
Lanes: Oiled 34, buffed to 38
I used Black Magic to polish this ball up and went out to the lanes. Started out with a 265, then a 244 and closed with a 224 for a total of 723. I have two more bowling houses to use this in. So far the ball even in a polish state rev's up in the mid-lane and gives you a steady, but impressive movement to the pocket. I only left two ten pins in the whole set. This ball just may make ball of the year for Storm.
Post by: coreyfromplamor on March 19, 2003, 07:34:54 AM
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Corey McManus
Post by: raider on March 22, 2003, 07:06:25 AM
Post by: White_Trash_Ball_Driller on March 24, 2003, 02:25:33 PM
Someone tell CaughtbyStorm to get to work or his pink slip will be waiting in his four ball Storm bag!
Double Deuce and Out!
Post by: UP300 on March 27, 2003, 04:43:33 PM
Post by: mumzie on April 09, 2003, 04:40:55 PM
I was thrilled with the ball. Drilled with layout 2, with a small weight hole to keep it legal.
I figured I could use it for around 3-4 games last weekend, at that tournament. I used it for 9 or 10. The only time I got into trouble was when I tried to put it away in the third game...
anyway - used it again last night in league - hooks way more than anything else I own. Came out of the gate with front 10-289. The ball opened up the lane like nobody's business!!! It was really fun.
And - as a comparison - I practiced with the ball in my 2 night a week league house. The lanes there run a lot drier than my other league house, where I bowled well last night. Anyway - My "normal" league shot is to release around 14, out to 8-10. With the deuce, I was releasing around 25. Over 4th arrow at the arrows, out to around 10-12 before it drove back into the pocket. Hard.
I give the ball 9 out of 10 - the only point it loses is the smell.
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One advantage of bowling over golf
is that you seldom lose the ball.
Post by: Brooklynside on April 12, 2003, 09:05:06 AM
as some.
Received ball Monday. Pin is located above ring finger with cg about
3 1n out with a weight hole.( long and flip ). Lanes are synthetic
oiled to 35 1/2 ft. buffed to 40. heavier in middle tapered to
light on outside, no wall. amf oil which means lots of carrydown.
first throw on tuesday. one practice each lane, turned on lane
got first 9 on way to 278. followed with 236, had to leave to let
people who had reserved lanes in. next day 2 leagues 656, 636.last
league fri. 2nd shift. 636 and should have been better except for
my bad throws. this is in spite of fact I have gone from 201 ave
last year to 185 last 4 mo since abc cracked down on all lanes in city
since abc is in town. hardest moving ball I have ever seen. will reach
pocket when others will not. carries heavy and light. ball is being
thrown in box condition. best I have ever had , would recommend to
anyone. p.s. a better bowler, a young guy that works behind the
counter at our lanes took this ball to a scholarship tourny out
of state and had 3 800's on wat to the win.
Post by: CoachTommy on April 14, 2003, 02:24:10 AM
Love this ball!! I give it a 9.99 out of 10
P.s Didn't wait to bowl on wend. but with a butter shot on that league I should kill them.
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Tommy300
Post by: bwn101 on April 18, 2003, 05:06:02 PM
Post by: Drillmn300 on April 25, 2003, 12:03:35 AM
On the PBA pattern C the ball would not push and the backend was so extreme that a soft hand wouldn't even work. The out of box and polished seemed to read about the same.
On the ABC condition the ball removed the OB and opened the lane up an extra 8 boards, the box condition worked best on this one.
In the summer I put out all 3 conditions on Wednesday and even the lefties enjoyed this one. I run a league that bowls on 4 PBA patterns switching every 4 weeks and open the ABC tournament condition to practice on.
Drill
Post by: Mongo on April 30, 2003, 01:58:45 PM
Drilled this up after bowling a tournament a couple of weeks ago. I've had the problem of when I miss, I usually blow through the breakpoint. I got to talk to a college buddy, Steve Todd (now a sales rep for Storm), and he got on me about my layouts. He said I was a big dummy because I drilled all my stuff to go long (5 X 5, high pin) and complained about throwing the ball through the breakpoint. He told me that for length, I need to put the pin closer to the axis and go for a smooth reaction.
Here's my first test with this in mind
Specs:
15 lb.
3" pin
3 1/2 TW
Drill specs
3 X 1
Weight hole and RAD on VAL
Box finish (sheen, 1000 grit)
OK, Steve was right.
This ball is awesome. Smooth through the heads and kicking in the mids and backends. The Deuce really revs up off your hand and does exactly was it's supposed to, read the middles. Pretty strong for a reactive, I would rate it a hair stronger than the V2 Solid with a similar motion. As with all Storm equipment, the heads are a non-issue as it glides through them with ease. I was really impressed at the Deuce's versatility. On a 38' sport shot, I was able to play right up the ditch and had a smooth even look. Carrydown finally got me, but it played most of the night. On the house shot, the Deuce looked manly. Swinging 15 to around 5 the Deuce turned the corner, but never jerked.
I just picked up another Deuce today and will drill it a bit stronger (probably leverage) and kick up the cover a bit (600 grit).
Overall, a ball I would highly recommend to crankers and tweener for an all-around ball. As for strokers, this could be your "A" oil ball.
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Watch as they battle their archenemies Brackman and Sidepot, whose one goal is to empty the pockets of tournament bowlers across the land
Post by: MOUTH BOY on May 12, 2003, 06:42:33 PM
4 out of 10 on house shot
9 out of 10 on harder conditions
Post by: accarlos on May 14, 2003, 03:50:35 AM
May X Factor Deuce is 15lbs, with 4.04oz top weight (had a balance hole to keep it legal). I am right handed and I had my ball drilled based on the maximum hook layout. Our center has Brunswick synthetic lanes, oiled by a Kegel machine. The pattern is usually xmas tree, medium-heavy oil, 38-40ft.
I had 8 strikes in a row the first time I used my X Factor Deuce. I had a solid ten on the ninth frame then punched out for a 279. Not bad for an out of the box condition.
The ball really hooks and hits massively in the pocket. I was able to have a wide area which I couldn't do before with my Brunswick Deep Purple Zone Proactive. I stand on the 23rd board and pass the 2nd arrow. The Deuce carries well. I could see the ball move faster as soon as it hits the dry part of the lane.
Overall, I love this ball on medium to heavy oil conditions. On dry lanes, it looses its power.
Hello to all GMTBC and SLETBA bowlers who visits this site =)Mabuhay!
Post by: mumzie on May 14, 2003, 12:47:00 PM
I bought this ball about 6 weeks ago to combat a veritable flood condition in an upcoming tournament. I posted a previous review right after I got it. Now, here's the follow up after I've had it a while.
This ball is awesome. It's drilled with the storm layout for maximum performance on medium/heavy oil. This ball is not a hook monster for the rev challenged, but it moves. And it moves well. The ball is a great complement to my Reaction Rev, X Factor, and Smash/R.
The only caveat I would give any user is the following - KNOW WHEN TO PUT IT AWAY!!! The ball is not the strongest I've seen for lots of carrydown. But it does open up the lane!
I suffered badly from new ball-itis the other night, and refused to put it away. 289-228-194. Sigh. The ball quit carrying when carrydown became evident, and I refused to put it away.
Post by: hoyo9 on May 28, 2003, 07:55:06 PM
16 #
3" pin
drilled 4.5 x 4.5
RAD in line with pin and cg
weight hole on VAL
Lane surfaces bowled on: Wood/Guardian, Wood, AMF Synthetic
I've had this ball for about 6 weeks. I had it drilled up for the National tourney in Knoxville. I kept it at box condition and found it to be a hook beast that would roll out more times than not. My scratch league recently had a cash tourney to end the season and my team was in the final after going thru round robin undefeated. I tried different releases more rev/ less rev, more roll/less roll the ball was just too much for the conditions. We rolled on three different pairs of lanes and three different patterns. The lanes are a guardian/wood combo. I was able to get to the pocket but I could tell it was just hitting real soft ( roll out ). When we came back to roll in the finals I wet sanded it down to 600 grit and lightly polished it. WOW what a difference. Nice skid in the oil, when it came out of oil it turned to the pocket like a guided missle, and hit was stronger than I could imagine. The 2 pairs of lanes we rolled on were soaked. I was able to choose any line I wanted as long as it was up the boards. I opted for going up 9 and had scores of 238-257. Although we lost both games by less than 10 pins, I was very pleased with this ball. I was getting messenger pins ( I never get them ) and found that hit I had been searching for. The Duece was clearly the best ball on the lanes that evening. This ball is definitely for oilier conditions. I am able to play from 16 board out to the gutter, either swinging the ball slightly or going up the boards. If they're medium, PUT THE BALL AWAY.
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" ITS ABOUT THE HIT "
Post by: Joe L Carter on June 09, 2003, 01:21:45 PM
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Joe L. Carter
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Post by: Camtheman on June 26, 2003, 01:11:34 AM
pin to the right of ring finger.
cg to the right of my thumb above it.
rad is under my thumb. extra hole slightly under thumb to the right
i first threw this ball at secoma lanes and surprisingly enough the ball didnt go to the left gutter. i found a shot and i crushed the pockey almost every time. this ball carrys a lot. it also hooks on medium to oily conditions. i used it on my tuesday league on the dry shot and i shot i think 210 or something. then i threw it on the new oily sho and shot 220. so i think this is a good ball.
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im 12..
average is around 190-200
shot 289 on a sport league.
won all stars
my balls are: White Dot black silver caramel,
Monster Frenzy
X-Factor Duece.....all 15lbs
Post by: Re-Evolution on July 11, 2003, 07:58:32 PM
This ball does for me what no other ball ever has, it allows me to swing the ball a bit, I was throwing over 15-16 at the line, 11-12 at arrows out to about the 7 at break point. Ball saves energy much better than I expected for a ball that rolls so heavy in the midlane, I was concerned that it might not hit as hard as my other balls which are all 15#, concerns are long gone cause this ball crushes the rack harder than either my Shock Trauma and Boost do. It not only hits hard but I have never had so many messengers, the pins stay low and spin all over the place. I have only had a chance to bowl 7 games with it so far but in those games I have averaged 21 pins higher than normal with a 213, 256, 275 / 744 first time out of the bag. Second night out was on medium condition with slippery backend and was a bit dry for this ball but I still had a 788 4 game series, 219 average for the 7 games I will take that any day. I think after getting the X Factor core in my system I am going to have to run out and get the X-Factor and X-Factor ReLoaded to complete the arsenal.
Update:
Bowled on Medium/Heavy synthetics tonight. Played straight up 9-11. Ball works good on this condition, but I had to reduce speed and axis rotation to get it to roll early enough, the hit was awesome though especially considering the speed I was rolling it. I think if I changed the cover to around 600 wet sanded it would match up well to this condition as the break point was about 3'-5' later than on medium/heavy wood before I changed speed and release.
wood medium/heavy fresh backends-averaged 248 for 3 games
wood medium with fairly bad carrydown-averaged 197 for 4 games
synthetic medium/heavy fair backends-averaged 196 for 10 games 204 1-5/188 6-10
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F5 TORNADO IS COMING THROUGH, WILL THE 10 PIN SURVIVE AGAIN!
Post by: Pat Patterson on July 17, 2003, 04:14:45 AM
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Post by: jwsmith01 on July 25, 2003, 01:52:49 AM
Dislikes: Out of Box Surface and Dry Heads
16 pounds
Top Weight: 3.66 oz
Pin out: 2.5-3 inches
Ebonite Factory Finish
This was the first Storm ball I drilled up in about two years. So I was alittle apprehensive before I put holes in it. But man, am I glad I did. I layout my Deuce 5 1/2" strong, this put the pin above my ring finger and the RAD about an inch or so right of my thumb. I finished up at a 1/2 positive I didn't have to take a hole out. I threw my Deuce with the out of box finish out in league, and I kept getting crossed up. I couldn't find the breakpoint at all. After league I went back and polished it up with Ebonite Factory Finish. What a difference. I went back out and saw a totally different ball. I could easily feed the ball the ball down the lane, and I knew exactly where the breakpoint was going to be. This ball does not quit when it gets to the breakpoint and makes its turn. It has such a hard rolling move that it I just love. Also on heavier oil, even with the Ebonite Factory Finish, the Deuce was very powerful cutting through the oil. As well as retaining a nice move on the backend, without sacrificing hitting power. I have to say that I am very impressed with my Deuce it's great multipurpose bowling ball. I can play coast to coast or straight up the gutter if it is there and I won't loose any hit.....if you have any questions just email me....Good Luck and Good Bowling.
Post by: Danny299 on September 07, 2003, 03:39:06 PM
Post by: bowler0821 on September 24, 2003, 08:44:17 PM
#15.4
Top: 3.40
Pin: 2.5-3
Style
RH,Stroker
Avg revs
MHP-15-17
This ball is great if you have the first x-factor you need this one for more oil this and the orig X-factor are a great combo. This ball hooks and hits hard all most as hard as my orig X-factor and give great movement in oil. I have it set up pin right next to my ring finger and cg kicked out like my orig X-factor and the RAD is to the right and down of my thumb. Great power and control in this ball and I love the smell to this ball blueberry. I give this ball a 10+ out of 10 a ball that any one can have in there arsenal and nice looking to lol.
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Mike
Not sure what to drill, drill a Storm there is no better.
Post by: CPA on September 24, 2003, 11:41:55 PM
I have used each ball in our sport league also. The Deuce hooks a little too much for our sport shot.
Post by: Remper300 on October 07, 2003, 05:35:33 PM
Post by: mike421325 on October 13, 2003, 12:36:13 AM
MIKE
Post by: keithsweat on October 21, 2003, 09:50:27 AM
Post by: ky247 on October 30, 2003, 10:44:49 PM
Have used the ball for 6 straight 3 game sets and just rub it a little in the track area with a scotch pad before the start of each set. Averaging 233 with a high of 740 and a low of 672 across three different leagues.
Have ordered the Fear Factor and will report on it after its arrival and use for a while. Have been an Ebonite man for the past 3 years with the Apex line, but the Duece is starting to make me think a little different.
Post by: Phenom88 on November 11, 2003, 09:57:16 PM
Post by: khescock on December 09, 2003, 02:38:49 PM
The ball rolls almost the entire length of the lane, picks up a little on the backend and hits hard. I mainly throw it on oily conditions, but I can get away with on almost any condition and rolls really good from the inside part of the lane. Its a really good ball for unstable patterns.
I've also see the ball drilled aggressive and it still picks up when need and holds when need, one of Storm's best by far.
Post by: And1_headach on December 10, 2003, 09:51:36 PM
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EVERY PIN COUNTS!
Post by: dave_jrbowler on December 16, 2003, 11:37:43 AM
Post by: moondays on December 23, 2003, 05:08:02 PM
It has a very smooth arc in with a little extra snap at about 40-45', but it'll carry almost anything if it's close enough. I've been told that it "crucifies" the deck when it puts all 10 in the pit.
I'm averaging 201 with it after about 70 games, but I'll probably replace it for leagues and save it for lanes with a little more oil.
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On league night, a realm of untold destruction and horror is formed. Innocent pins are unsuspectingly pulled into this terrifying realm. Their lives are changed forever by the terror that is unleashed upon them for the next 36 frames. They stand in fear as they await their fate when they enter...The Danger Zone. (Only those damn 10-pins have lived to tell the gruesome tale.)
Post by: Mongo on December 29, 2003, 12:56:37 AM
Specs:
15 lb.
3" pin
4 oz. TW
Drill specs
Pin over bridge (5" pin)
CG out 1"
RAD next to thumb
Box finish
Man, o' man, I loves me the Deuce. This is the third one I've drilled, but the first one I've drilled for length. I've drilled one to roll (2" pin) and maxed one out (label leverage). The 2" pin is perfect for wet/dry and tough conditions I have to square up on. The label leverage was a bit too smooth, so I moved it.
Well, I drilled this one up to be my big resin for conditions where particles are too much (which is pretty often). Bowled today on weekend leftovers and used it with my V2 Particle and Monster Bruiser. The Deuce fit perfectly in between the two. The left lane had quite a bit of carrydown and I had to use the V2, but the right lane was a little cleaner and the Deuce really stood out on this lane.
The high RG drill on this baby got it down the lane well enough, but it still read the lane and recovered with pin splattering effectiveness. I'm really anxious to try it out tomorrow night as the backends should be somewhat cleaner and the heads will be fresh. I get the feeling the Deuce could be a monster.
Overall, I really like this ball and it is dead on for what I intended. It's got a similar shape to the V2 Particle, but longer and a little smoother (coverstock). This ball could well be my nominee for ball of the year. A big hooker that is on the same level as the medium and light load particles, but can stay in your hand longer.
Note: Bigger hands and slower speeds should definitely stay away from the stronger drills, the RAD core is a big motor and will burn up.
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Post by: daiiawn on December 30, 2003, 07:49:19 PM
Dont own one myself, but everyone i know who has one loves it, and plays brilliantly with it. Its a good strong ball, can be a bit of a handful once the oil dies down on the lanes.
Bowling in my local scratch league recently against a guy throwing a deuce, i witnessed the best 3 game series i have seen, and probablly ever will, a 265, 300, 300.
Definatly a ball id look at getting in the future
Post by: UpTenBowler on January 04, 2004, 03:36:10 AM
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Post by: Hammerifick on February 16, 2004, 05:01:21 PM
5x4,1/2
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16#________________*- Pin &- Center of Gravity
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Even with the lengthy drill and the fact that it is POLISHED...it still hooks out of the house and it is so amazing, the carry is awesome...wow you just have to get one to experience it...I start at 25 roll it at 22 goes out to 10 and has a real aggressive arc to the pocket and once the ball hits the pocket, see the pins fly...
Solid 10-10
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Post by: bigalex300 on February 19, 2004, 05:55:43 PM
Post by: Just Bowl on February 20, 2004, 07:59:23 AM
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Post by: melvin44 on March 05, 2004, 04:50:48 PM
Post by: Teddy K on March 05, 2004, 07:20:19 PM
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Age-17,Storm X Factor Duece Avg. 193, High game 258, High series-637
Post by: shawn on April 01, 2004, 02:48:04 AM
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Post by: A_P_K on July 10, 2004, 07:42:49 PM
Lane Conditions: Medium Oil
Typical Conditions: Variety of Shots
Type of Lane: Combination
What part of the lane did you play? Third Arrow
Did the ball track out? Slow
Weight of bowling ball: 16
Surface of bowling ball: Sanded
What grit was the surface of the ball? 800
Likes: Early rolling, smooth backend, big hitter, nice and controllable.
Dislikes: Carry is a little suspect, drilling lay out made the ball a little weak.
My Deuce is 16lbs with a 3-4" pin out distance and it's drilled label, with the RAD in the track. I wanted the RAD in strong position, but anyway the Deuce rolls strong for a resin, it's also very even and controllable. It plays straighter up on heavier oils pretty well, just keep the speed consistent and it will arc into the pocket. Unless you like to cover alot of boards it's not recommended to play on lighter oils. Although the Deuce doesn't have any trouble getting up and arcing back into the pocket if played deeper than the 4th arrow. The hit is pretty explosive but the carry is a little suspect. All in all this is a pretty good ball for a bowler who doesn't like particles and needs a early rolling piece of equipment.
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Post by: davidellisonispcom on August 18, 2004, 07:47:10 PM
above avg speed, med-hi revs, RH
Drilled Storm layout 4
Lane Conditions: Medium Oil (as usual)
Played 12-8
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: 1000 Out of box
Likes: Controllable.
Dislikes: Rolled too early, very weak backend and weaker carry, left way too many 10 pins.
Some of this may be that it doesn't fit my game. It might react better to a higher rev player with less ball speed.
5 out of 10
Post by: SkillzMagillz on December 08, 2004, 12:05:17 PM
Post by: lazerzonechamp5 on January 17, 2005, 01:06:58 AM
Typical Conditions: Variety of Shots
Type of Lane: All Synthetic
What part of the lane did you play? Third Arrow
Did the ball track out? Slow
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Sanded
What grit was the surface of the ball? 800
Likes: it has a nice overall hook. the ball is always dependable and works like a charm.
Dislikes: i hate blue-berry, if u have the ball u know what i meen
i like the ball alot. it is always dependable . i always use this ball. i have had this ball for a acouple of years now, kept it in really good shape and it has always pulled through for me,(through the pins to), but there isnt much that i dont like about this ball, i have always bowled really good with it. when i thorw the ball i always hook the ball alot, and the ball just absorbs the oil like a sponge.the ball likes to dig in alot and is a very stable ball. i can always control it because i use magic, just kidding
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Post by: imjouster on May 28, 2006, 05:27:36 AM
Ball: X-factor Deuce (2 inch Pin)
Drilled: Pin 1/2 inch to the right of the Ring finger Parallel with fingers. With CG and RAD Stacked right below in a straight line. Used quite a big weight hole 2 inches past the PAP I'd GUESS 1 inch bit about 2 1/2 inches deep.
Surface Prep: 1000 Grit sanded
Games on ball: probably 250 or more
Things started out kinda funny with this ball. Got it right before the Gold tournament in St. Louis, didn't have a chance to throw it before we left. I did get a chance to throw it right before the tournament in Shelbyville Illinios, at Shelby Lanes. Lanes were absolutely toasted, I couldn't get anything to stay right of the headpin. Finally said well lets go ahead and see what the Deuce will do, not a good condition to test it out on but o well. So I pull it out. try to play 20 at Arrows to like 10 breakpoint. and the ball doesn't hook. figured maybe it rolled out but it sure didn't look like it. So I moved inside some, played 20 out to 13. Ball all of a sudden makes a move towards the pocket and CRUSHES the pins. end up shooting 670 for 3 with the ball on DRY lanes. I always had a problem with getting it to carry 10 pins and 7 pins out.
It never was a good heavy oil ball for me. and after a while it the hook it had just vanished, So I had the oil taken out of it and got it resurfaced, still nothing. Ball had just Died, never had a ball die quite like it. especially a reactive. but the ball lost all of its hitting power, carry, and hook potential. Same thing happened to my friends.
Overall, it was an all right ball, but I wish I would have gotten something else. it smells good. thats a plus
. Ball was really inconsistent for me and everything. If I had to give it a rating I'd go 6 out of 10 and part of that is because I rolled a 300 with it and because of the smell.Jeremy
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Post by: JessN16 on July 12, 2006, 03:24:56 PM
The ball came very roughly sanded, which I didn't want. So we took the surface up to 1000 Abralon and then polished it heavily.
The ball has about a 3 inch pin. In its current drilling, the pin is above the ring about an inch and a half, at about 1 o'clock to the ring finger. The CG is under the ring about an inch and a half.
My first impression of this ball is that it's going to be super on a house shot. My first game was 255 and I was able to play in, out, down and in, wherever. The ball makes a very strong move to the pocket when it hits dry, but it doesn't overreact or get wild. With the surface in the condition it's now in, the ball makes a power arc move in the back. Carry is superb -- this might be an old ball, but the core in this ball is not very different from the Paradigm core.
My next test usage was on a PBA Regional shot league, pattern 3. I played over third arrow, out to about 10 for the first couple of games. At the start of the third game, the shot broke down a little and I was able to go out to 5 or 6, and turn the speed up a little.
During the first two games, the ball gave me a very rolly, even reaction. Not a lot of snap until it was right in front of the pin deck. During the third game, however, I was able to open up a little more and have a little fun with it.
I got the chance to test this ball side-by-side with a Depth Charge and a Dark Thunder on both conditions listed above. On the house shot, the Deuce really outshined the other two balls. The Depth Charge was having problems with the wet-dry line, while the Dark Thunder (sanded to 600) just was too strong. On the PBA shot, though, the Depth Charge was stronger in the back end and more angular, while the Deuce was a smooth roller. The Dark Thunder was still a bit strong -- similar to the Depth Charge, just stronger all over -- as we were apparently on a low-volume version of Pattern 3.
In conclusion, the Deuce is more than enough ball for any house shot, and is still viable on tougher shots. Like most Storm balls, the cover is infinitely versatile. The roll is very predictable, and the core, which was way ahead of its time when it was made, gives you above-average carry. These balls pop up on eBay and BallReviews from time to time, and it would probably be a good investment.
Jess
Post by: wible on August 02, 2006, 11:53:26 AM
This ball has a both the pin and MB 2.5" from the CG, and all 3 are in a straight line. I have it drilled as Layout #1 in the brochure, with the MB in the strong. This puts the pin just above the bridge, right over the pace between the 2 finger holes. The CG is about 1/2" right of centerline, and the MB is in the strong according to the diagram.
This is the 5th Storm ball I have bought in the past year, and this is by far the best one yet. I am a stroker with very litte wrist, and I can actually play this ball inside, over the third arrow, like the crankers do. Balls like this are why I keep coming back to Storm. I have bowled about 10 games so far with this in practice. Have not used it yet in the league, but I will tonight. Of the 10 practice games I threw, only 1 was under 200, and that was my fault.
Way to go, Storm!
Post by: 67tbird on February 14, 2007, 11:03:12 AM
Medium rev stroker, medium speed
First impression of this ball was it would be good for a lighter volume of oil - less overall hook than my Horizon by 3-4 boards. Anything above medium house shot, the ball just slides. Decided to polish this one up and use it for a burnt house shot, as this is where the ball really shines for me. Playing straight up 8, I managed a high game of 267 and several over 200, on a shot that was pretty dry. Not too bad for a bowler with a 163 average in league. The ball showed absolutely no over-under, reacted exactly as I expected each and every shot. Pulled ball, it would hold whatever oil was out there, get it out a bit to far and it would come back, although I lost alot of carrying power when that happened. Overall I would say for the strokers, a great ball for a lighter volume of oil! This one gets a solid 8.5 from me.
Post by: ecc0_9879 on March 25, 2011, 01:04:26 PM
LANE CONDITION
Length:41 feet
Volume:medium
Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):
THS COMMENTS
This is a ball I picked up at my local alley and the owner said I could have it. It is currently drilled stacked leverage and the ball was pretty beaten up so I resurfaced it and put it at like 1500 polished with black magic. This ball is a beast it pushes nicly in the front part of the lane and comes on strong second part of the lane great skid arc reaction. Started out last night 204 205 then ended with a 188 ball was overreacting bad and i didnt move fast enough. For an older ball the ball hits and carrys very well only a few 10 pins and a 8 pin over the night. The rad core in this ball is really impressive stores a ton of energy and even with the lanes drying out I didnt notice any roll out. Well I know it is an older ball but i figure if you can still find out out there dont hesitate to give it a whirl.
Likes:lenght and the overall reaction on the lanes. Also the hit and carry are above average.
Dislikes: That the ball is not still sold
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