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Title: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: WOWZERS on September 05, 2017, 01:30:21 PM
In case you have not seen the special HyRoads being built to order. Storm is only producing 300 total (not per weight, we are talking a total of 300) for $300 each with at least 50% of the cost going to breast cancer research.

Balls went on sale at 12 MST (2 PM EST) today.

http://www.stormbowling.com/pink-hyroad

Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: xrayjay on September 05, 2017, 01:55:06 PM
at first I was like "WHAT?!".....then I saw the ribbon.... having lost someone special in my life over a decade ago due to complication to breast cancer, she was only 31... 50% to BC research
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: WOWZERS on September 05, 2017, 02:13:28 PM
Agreed. I ponied up the $300 with no qualms for such a good cause. Someone special in my life fighting this right now...so this hits home.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 05, 2017, 02:43:46 PM
It will make a great Christmas present so what the hell...it just pains me to pay $300 for a 13# ball.  ;D
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: WOWZERS on September 05, 2017, 03:10:51 PM
I hear ya....but the way I am looking at it is I am buying a ball for $150 shipped (shipping is included in the $300) and I am making a donation in the same amount for breast cancer research....
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: mrwizerd on September 06, 2017, 08:11:25 AM
Even though I survived the jeers from throwing a pink ball (Lane 1 Pink Panther) and if I didn't have a credit card bill to worry about, I would scoop up one of these in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Good Times Good Times on September 06, 2017, 11:08:49 AM
Hopefully all proceeds actually go to the research and not to one of those charities where like 95% of donations go to payroll instead of actual science.

I'm not saying it is in this case b/c I don't know.........just saying that I hope it does go to actual science.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 06, 2017, 11:15:19 AM
Hopefully all proceeds actually go to the research and not to one of those charities where like 95% of donations go to payroll instead of actual science.

I'm not saying it is in this case b/c I don't know.........just saying that I hope it does go to actual science.

If they are using the color pink to raise money, you can be sure of where it's going. Otherwise, Koman will sue their a$$ off.


For good OR for bad.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: northface28 on September 06, 2017, 11:22:51 AM
Hopefully all proceeds actually go to the research and not to one of those charities where like 95% of donations go to payroll instead of actual science.

I'm not saying it is in this case b/c I don't know.........just saying that I hope it does go to actual science.

If they are using the color pink to raise money, you can be sure of where it's going. Otherwise, Koman will sue their a$$ off.


For good OR for bad.

Susan Komen foundation keeps upwards of 80% of the proceeds. The NFL is worst with the whole month of Pink, they keep upwards of 90% of the money. Capitalism, gotta love it.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: WOWZERS on September 06, 2017, 11:25:28 AM
Not going to Komen based on a Facebook post by Leanne H. Someone asked on the Storm post and she responded....don't remember off the top of my head the foundation but it is NOT Komen.

On edit....Found her post. Leanne stated in response of who the money is being donated to that the charity is Huntsman Cancer Institute.

Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Luke Morningwood on September 06, 2017, 12:26:36 PM
"At Storm, we are committed to supporting many life-changing causes including Breast Cancer Research. October officially is Breast Cancer Awareness Month! Help join the fight, for every PTLP product purchased we will donate a portion of the proceeds to these vital breast cancer research supported foundations (Huntsman Cancer Institute and Striking Against Breast Cancer Foundation)."

Copied directly off the Storm web site promoting their Paint the Lanes Pink items.
Oh, and by the way, the pink Hy-roads are sold out.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Monster Stitch on September 06, 2017, 07:26:23 PM
Do you get to use it as a write off since it is partly a donation?
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: mrwizerd on September 06, 2017, 07:37:55 PM
Do you get to use it as a write off since it is partly a donation?

Good question.  I thought about asking the same question when I was thinking of buying one.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: charlest on September 07, 2017, 05:35:09 AM
Do you get to use it as a write off since it is partly a donation?

Nope, you just get to pay Storm. Storm gets the write-off cause they're making the actual donation.

Unless you really must have a Pink ball, I'd buy the Hy-Road from any internet dealer for $120; then make a  $180 donation to whichever charity you'd like to. Then you have a tax write-off and that charity will get $180, not just $150.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on September 07, 2017, 06:57:37 AM
I'm really mixed on this.  Most cancer "research" is just a cash cow where like northface says, most of the money goes to the organization, and most of the entire cancer industry in all forms is just making money off sick and dying people, people have literally made careers in the cancer industry.  Now, I can get on board with awareness, and early detection, and prevention, but at the same time, part of that is that the earlier they find it, the more money they can make off somebody, because once someone dies, well there goes the money train from them.  Not to mention they already have a couple different cures for it.  Cancer cells contain an abnormal amount of the protein CD47, which is a protein found on the surface of red blood cells which prevents the body's macrophages from eating them.  Over time, the protein is slowly lost as the cell ages, until the macrophages can destroy the cell, making room for new blood cells.  Cancer cells have so much of the protein on their surface that the macrophages will never be able to eat the cell, but researchers have found if they block CD47 on the cancer cells that the macrophages will go right in and destroy the cancer cells. 

There are also a few other treatments, one in Sweden that will never be tested, and a doctor in Houston has a treatment, but all these treatments have a lot of opposition, because if they surface, the billion dollar a year cash cow disappears, and way too many people are way too comfortable with the way things are.  I personally don't like it and I try to stay out of the whole "pink" month thing, but whatever.  It's good PR for whoever does it, and it makes those who donate feel good about themselves, so the people who actually have cancer are just a device for everyone else to use for their own benefit.  Storm got pretty raked by everyone on Facebook over the deal. 
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Good Times Good Times on September 07, 2017, 08:01:59 AM
I think this is the one thing we ALL agree on and the moral of the story:  F*ck you cancer
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: WOWZERS on September 07, 2017, 08:17:38 AM
xInfinity GTGT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made....
Post by: WOWZERS on September 25, 2017, 09:18:57 AM
and now let the eBay price gouging commence....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Storm-Pink-hy-road-limited-edition-brand-new-/132340344925?hash=item1ed019685d:g:yFEAAOSw-QZZyGEQ

Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 09:36:15 AM
and now let the eBay price gouging commence....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Storm-Pink-hy-road-limited-edition-brand-new-/132340344925?hash=item1ed019685d:g:yFEAAOSw-QZZyGEQ



Really? How is that price gouging?

Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: WOWZERS on September 25, 2017, 10:07:06 AM
$500? People were complaining about the $300 price tag when at least half was going to a cancer foundation....but its ok for $450+$50 shipping when none is going to a foundation, etc????
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 10:13:33 AM
$500? People were complaining about the $300 price tag when at least half was going to a cancer foundation....but its ok for $450+$50 shipping when none is going to a foundation, etc? ???

Ah so you do not understand what price gouging means then.

It's okay to admit it...
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: HackJandy on September 25, 2017, 10:33:53 AM
People are so predictable.  Gots to get mine.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: WOWZERS on September 25, 2017, 10:41:58 AM
Thanks Milo. My Doctorate in Business Administration and 13 years in college may say otherwise, but by all means, you know best. Maybe I should put a forward in my dissertation that was turned into a book and is for sale to indicate that I have no idea what I am talking about but Milo does.

Typical keyboard pounder who thinks he knows everything.

And yes, when comparing what the seller is doing (not donating anything) and is charging $500 shipped for the same item you can get for $130 shipped....that's price gouging. No different than charging $30 for a case of water when a hurricane hits your area when you can normally get the same case for $4 or whatever.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 10:55:46 AM
Thanks Milo. My Doctorate in Business Administration and 13 years in college may say otherwise, but by all means, you know best. Maybe I should put a forward in my dissertation that was turned into a book and is for sale to indicate that I have no idea what I am talking about but Milo does.

Typical keyboard pounder who thinks he knows everything.

And yes, when comparing what the seller is doing (not donating anything) and is charging $500 shipped for the same item you can get for $130 shipped....that's price gouging. No different than charging $30 for a case of water when a hurricane hits your area when you can normally get the same case for $4 or whatever.

So your Doctorate doesn't define the difference between "need" verses "want"?

Let me help you then, people in Houston NEEDED potable water to survive, but people buying a bowling ball just want one.

Your welcome.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on September 25, 2017, 12:43:54 PM
Also the water thing in Houston was a mistake . . employee that couldn't math.  But carry on!

Thanks Milo. My Doctorate in Business Administration and 13 years in college may say otherwise, but by all means, you know best. Maybe I should put a forward in my dissertation that was turned into a book and is for sale to indicate that I have no idea what I am talking about but Milo does.

Typical keyboard pounder who thinks he knows everything.

And yes, when comparing what the seller is doing (not donating anything) and is charging $500 shipped for the same item you can get for $130 shipped....that's price gouging. No different than charging $30 for a case of water when a hurricane hits your area when you can normally get the same case for $4 or whatever.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Good Times Good Times on September 25, 2017, 12:48:13 PM
Think about this...........four hundred and fifty dollars for an un-drilled bowling ball.

Roughly $500 invested after drilling/grips/slug or switch grip.

Think for a moment how profound that is. 
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 12:55:20 PM
Think about this...........four hundred and fifty dollars for an un-drilled bowling ball.

Roughly $500 invested after drilling/grips/slug or switch grip.

Think for a moment how profound that is. 

I have sold several balls in that range, but then of course I was price gouging them. Because you know, it was a matter life and death for that guy to have the ball.  ;D

Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 01:00:26 PM
Here is another thing to consider, I can get a Hy-Road from Buddies(and pretty much anywhere else) for around $120 shipped.

So even though, Storm claims they were donating 50% of the sale to the cause, why wasn't the price lower?

Storm is a bunch of price gouging sons-a-bitches, right? They limited the number and jacked up the price and made a profit.

Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on September 25, 2017, 01:02:02 PM
That's why I never discounted something in the shop because people said they couldn't afford it.  Sorry, bowling isn't life and death and if you can't afford the stuff, you probably shouldn't be buying it, and I'm not going to enable someone to blow their money.  If you can't afford $220, you can't afford $200, or even $180 for that matter, so if I sell it to you, I do a lot of work for not a lot of money, you spend money you don't have, and everyone really loses there.  Now if this rabbit would slow down, I might catch him . .

Think about this...........four hundred and fifty dollars for an un-drilled bowling ball.

Roughly $500 invested after drilling/grips/slug or switch grip.

Think for a moment how profound that is. 

I have sold several balls in that range, but then of course I was price gouging them. Because you know, it was a matter life and death for that guy to have the ball.  ;D
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 01:07:27 PM
That's why I never discounted something in the shop because people said they couldn't afford it.  Sorry, bowling isn't life and death and if you can't afford the stuff, you probably shouldn't be buying it, and I'm not going to enable someone to blow their money.  If you can't afford $220, you can't afford $200, or even $180 for that matter, so if I sell it to you, I do a lot of work for not a lot of money, you spend money you don't have, and everyone really loses there.  Now if this rabbit would slow down, I might catch him . .

Think about this...........four hundred and fifty dollars for an un-drilled bowling ball.

Roughly $500 invested after drilling/grips/slug or switch grip.

Think for a moment how profound that is. 

I have sold several balls in that range, but then of course I was price gouging them. Because you know, it was a matter life and death for that guy to have the ball.  ;D

Good way to look at it. A lot of people's spending habits are similar to drug addiction, they just can't help themselves.

Yea, that's right, I'm just like a drug dealer...  :o ;D
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Impending Doom on September 25, 2017, 01:28:28 PM
Here is another thing to consider, I can get a Hy-Road from Buddies(and pretty much anywhere else) for around $120 shipped.

So even though, Storm claims they were donating 50% of the sale to the cause, why wasn't the price lower?

Storm is a bunch of price gouging sons-a-bitches, right? They limited the number and jacked up the price and made a profit.



Actually, it's much more expensive for the pink to be poured. Hence the price markup.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 01:30:29 PM
Here is another thing to consider, I can get a Hy-Road from Buddies(and pretty much anywhere else) for around $120 shipped.

So even though, Storm claims they were donating 50% of the sale to the cause, why wasn't the price lower?

Storm is a bunch of price gouging sons-a-bitches, right? They limited the number and jacked up the price and made a profit.



Actually, it's much more expensive for the pink to be poured. Hence the price markup.

Possibly, I don't know jack about the cost of pouring a ball. Just thinking that if the only difference is color, how can it cost more than a couple of dollars per ball to make that change?
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Impending Doom on September 25, 2017, 01:33:14 PM
Here is another thing to consider, I can get a Hy-Road from Buddies(and pretty much anywhere else) for around $120 shipped.

So even though, Storm claims they were donating 50% of the sale to the cause, why wasn't the price lower?

Storm is a bunch of price gouging sons-a-bitches, right? They limited the number and jacked up the price and made a profit.



Actually, it's much more expensive for the pink to be poured. Hence the price markup.

Possibly, I don't know jack about the cost of pouring a ball. Just thinking that if the only difference is color, how can it cost more than a couple of dollars per ball to make that change?

Milo,

You took me seriously? For shame, sir! FOR SHAME!!
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 01:34:36 PM
Here is another thing to consider, I can get a Hy-Road from Buddies(and pretty much anywhere else) for around $120 shipped.

So even though, Storm claims they were donating 50% of the sale to the cause, why wasn't the price lower?

Storm is a bunch of price gouging sons-a-bitches, right? They limited the number and jacked up the price and made a profit.



Actually, it's much more expensive for the pink to be poured. Hence the price markup.

Possibly, I don't know jack about the cost of pouring a ball. Just thinking that if the only difference is color, how can it cost more than a couple of dollars per ball to make that change?

Milo,

You took me seriously? For shame, sir! FOR SHAME!!

Oh, my bad. But in my defense, you didn't include a sarcasm smiley face.  ::) ;D


That's what I get for not staying in school... ???
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: itsallaboutme on September 25, 2017, 01:47:36 PM
Red pigment used to cost more.....I'd bet it still does.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: xrayjay on September 25, 2017, 01:52:49 PM
some don't mind spending $450 on a bowling ball... if i was going to spend that much, I'd rather get Hibiki whisky 21 :D
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 01:57:04 PM
some don't mind spending $450 on a bowling ball... if i was going to spend that much, I'd rather get Hibiki whisky 21 :D

I hear you there, except I'm not a Single Malt guy. I've paid more than that for Bourbon and Rye whiskey though...
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: Good Times Good Times on September 25, 2017, 01:59:13 PM
some don't mind spending $450 on a bowling ball...

I just find this fascinating on so many levels.........the value people put in things.

I can get a Hyroad right now, grips/switch grip out the door at no more than $200 (likely in the $180 range).....that would mean I'd put 150% worth of value in the pink color.  Again, profound.
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: LyalC52 on September 25, 2017, 03:23:30 PM
I have a few stupid questions

1- if you spend $500 on a ball (any ball for that matter) do you drill it?

2- if the buyer of this pink ball spends $500 as an investment, what do they think they will be able to flip it for in the future?

I know people speculate on some pretty stupid stuff, but this one doesn't seem profitable at all. Ya Ya I know, people buy sh*t with their heart not their brain
Title: Re: $300 Pink HyRoads....only 300 made
Post by: milorafferty on September 25, 2017, 03:39:34 PM
I have a few stupid questions

1- if you spend $500 on a ball (any ball for that matter) do you drill it?

2- if the buy of this pink ball spends $500 as an investment, what do they think they will be able to flip it for in the future?

I know people speculate on some pretty stupid stuff, but this one doesn't seem profitable at all. Ya Ya I know, people buy sh*t with their heart not their brain

You can lower that price to $300 and the question would still be relevant in my opinion.

I own a few bowling balls I wouldn't take $500 for and will never drill them myself. So it's not that much different I guess. Some people just collect odd sh1t.  ;D