Post by: yo on July 14, 2009, 03:39:41 AM
Post by: themagician on July 14, 2009, 11:40:58 AM
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Post by: rctc286 on July 14, 2009, 11:50:06 AM
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Post by: bear300x on July 14, 2009, 01:22:10 PM
However, looking at how many are being thrown and the success that the Hyroad has had vs the others I would have to say it is the way to go. The Hyroad is also a ball that responds great to surface changes. S
It would also depend on how you typically match up diff's and rg's. Take a look at which balls that you typically have had good success with and then check out their diff's and rg's and then compare those to the balls in question.
Post by: greenefam on July 14, 2009, 03:46:57 PM
If I were in your shoes and was looking for a ball down from the Rogue Cell I'd go with the Hy-Road probably at box polish. Both balls are hybrids while the Rogue is stronger both due to the cover and core. I think you should be happy with that 1-2 punch.
Post by: yo on July 15, 2009, 02:42:31 AM
Post by: greenefam on July 15, 2009, 01:35:39 PM
Rogue
Cell Pearl
Hy-Road or Nomad Solid
would be a nice 3 ball set covering heavy to medium - medium light
Post by: yo on July 15, 2009, 02:10:05 PM
rouge cell
virtual gravity
cell pearl
fast or mars
tropical storm
Post by: greenefam on July 15, 2009, 03:47:50 PM
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well i was thinking about going this route only because i like the way the new storm and roto stuff react.
rouge cell
virtual gravity
cell pearl
fast or mars
tropical storm
Got it. Quick analysis -
Rouge and Virtual at box finish are REAL close IMO. Change one of them to 1000 or 2000 abralon in order to get a smoother and earlier ball and you will be fine. I get the Cell Pearl under these - great ball with more length than Rouge and Virtual. Fast and Mars are not really that close IMO. The Fast is MUCH stronger, earlier, and more angular than the Mars. I am not a fan of the Tropical (you will find others who are). For me the Tropical is only useful for beginner bowlers. Now that I get your thinking I would still say you are missing a real benchmark ball for medium. I'd go with:
Virtual Gravity @ 1000 or 2000
Rouge Cell
Cell Pearl
Nomad or Hy-Road
Mars or Neptune
Post by: yo on July 15, 2009, 03:56:45 PM
Post by: greenefam on July 15, 2009, 04:57:59 PM
You started off this thread saying you were looking for a 'go to ball' that can be used on a lot of conditions. Polished or 4000 abralon sym. solids or hybrids fit that mold for me - a benchmark ball. In the current Storm and Roto lineup that would be either the Hy-Road or Nomad Solid. For me the Cell Pearl is a great ball but does NOT fit in that slot... it is a bit too strong to call a benchmark ball.
Post by: duvallite on July 15, 2009, 05:19:19 PM
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Cell Pearl and Nomad Solid are very different. Cell Pearl is sym. and uses the Cyto. pearl cover, Nomad is sym. and has a milder cover (ultra vision is a medium strength reactive). The end result is a more angular Cell Pearl that is also a bit earlier.
So you are saying the Cell Pearl is earlier and more angular than the Nomad Solid, correct? Where would the Nomad Pearl fit in?
Post by: greenefam on July 15, 2009, 05:36:17 PM
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So you are saying the Cell Pearl is earlier and more angular than the Nomad Solid, correct? Where would the Nomad Pearl fit in?
Correct with the Cell Pearl - Nomad Solid comparison. I have yet to drill a Nomad Pearl for anyone but I would assume it would be a bit longer with a similar - maybe slight bit more angular to the solid. Keep in mind the Nomad solid/pearl covers are basically the same as the Grand Illusion / Illusion. They are updated balls replacing the cores with the rotary core (specs. are close to the Illusion cores).
I think Britton did a comparison and the Nomads are just a bit stronger than the Illusions but still a step down from the Cells. Maybe Britton if you get a chance can you jump in here?
Post by: yo on July 16, 2009, 12:27:23 AM
rouge
cell pearl
hyroad
natural
sorry for being so indecisive.. i just changed weights and wanna make sure i get a good line up. thank you everyone for your input.
Post by: Herbinator300 on July 16, 2009, 03:01:30 AM
Hyroad
2nd Dimen.
Natural
The Cell Pearl is alot more ball than usually advertised. "Bench Mark" as you originally stated lays near a weaker solid, or something that is not super radical in its ball motion. Hyroad is a great, I mean great benchmark. You have the best of both worlds when solid meets pearl.
Post by: greenefam on July 16, 2009, 08:54:50 AM
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so how would a cell pearl compare to a hyroad then? i talked to my proshop guy today and he recommended getting this line up.
rouge
cell pearl
hyroad
natural
Darn close to the lineup I originally said, so it sounds good to me!
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Rogue
Cell Pearl
Hy-Road or Nomad Solid
In all seriousness this is a good lineup. I am not familiar yet with the Natural but would assume based on it being urethane that it is a good fit on the dry side.
Post by: Bigmike on July 16, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
Seriously though, Rogue is versatile and an oiler. CP is very good and can be touched up with 2000abr to bring it closer to ball down with. Hyroad is also versatile. Then you have the Natural for a combo spare/torched ball.
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rogue
cell pearl
hyroad
natural
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Post by: yo on July 16, 2009, 12:19:51 PM
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Post by: bear300x on July 16, 2009, 01:43:16 PM
I was thinking the same thing and almost replied earlier, but I assume he will drill the CP strong and the Hyroad med-to-weaker.
I wasn't even thinking he needed the CP, but free is free :-)
I was thinking he might want to sell it or trade it in to the pro-shop and go
Rouge
Hyroad
Fast/Mars
Natural
Post by: greenefam on July 16, 2009, 03:57:40 PM
Edited on 7/16/2009 3:57 PM