Post by: Nicanor on February 14, 2010, 01:51:56 AM
I tried it box, sanded and polished on long oil and short oil and no luck to date. I even took it out of my practice bag. I'll try it again, maybe, but it didn't replace the Virtual Gravity likee I thought it would.
I have two Virtual Gravities and threw a 300 with both and both read the lane better and carry better then the Invasion.
Maybe getting more games on the Invasion will help and I'll continue to work with the surface, but to date, I'm not having much success with the Invasion.
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Post by: themagician on February 14, 2010, 09:56:05 AM
That ball really needs oil up front and a lot of it, its not a house shot by any means from what i've seen or heard from some very good bowlers with them. It may be one that falls in the condition specific category because its so strong.
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Post by: David Lee Yskes on February 14, 2010, 11:39:16 AM
After reading reviews and threads about the Invasion, I decided to polish up the ball to smooth out the box condition, and get rid of all the deep grooves.
I then hit the ball with a new 4k abralon pad. I did throw the ball this afternoon, and even though the lanes sucked, complete left over's after yesterdays "v-day" couples tourny and league and open bowling. the mid lanes were bone so everything was hooking early.
The ball did perform well, and didnt lose energy. But it does need some oil in the first 35ft ( or more ) of the lane to help it get down the lane.
I'll post up a video of me throwing the ball.
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Post by: David Lee Yskes on February 14, 2010, 01:47:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peAXodDeX64
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Post by: jwcorn01 on February 14, 2010, 04:00:57 PM
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Post by: r534me on February 14, 2010, 06:04:11 PM
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Saw a lefty trying to throw straight up the left side on a drier league shot. Left a lot of weird leaves reminiscent of morich 8-10 splits.
I guess I have to question why anyone would use this ball on a drier league shot since it's designed for heavy oil.
Post by: MC on February 14, 2010, 06:09:20 PM
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Post by: Sikxer on February 15, 2010, 07:39:15 AM
Post by: Motogp69 on February 15, 2010, 09:30:27 AM
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I'm loving mine.. We drilled it up pin down 3-1/2 x 5 x 3 (pap 4-1/2",1/2" up) with weight hole to the right of my thumb. This thing is simply awesome on pba patterns (longer especially). Surprisingly though, it's still very usable in my ths leagues (still needs a good amount of oil though). It reads the mids great and makes a smooth yet continuous arc to the pocket. The carry is exceptional, especially considering the strong drilling.
So you did a double thumb layout with an Invasion. I want a video of this...
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Post by: Sikxer on February 15, 2010, 09:38:56 AM
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I'm loving mine.. We drilled it up pin down 3-1/2 x 5 x 3 (pap 4-1/2",1/2" up) with weight hole to the right of my thumb. This thing is simply awesome on pba patterns (longer especially). Surprisingly though, it's still very usable in my ths leagues (still needs a good amount of oil though). It reads the mids great and makes a smooth yet continuous arc to the pocket. The carry is exceptional, especially considering the strong drilling.
So you did a double thumb layout with an Invasion. I want a video of this...
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Yep! As far as the video.. I'll see what I can do.
Post by: tizzle on February 15, 2010, 02:46:38 PM
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag..A Reign of Fire, 2 Invasions, and a green Avalanche.. how can I lose....
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Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on February 15, 2010, 02:47:29 PM
Post by: tizzle on February 15, 2010, 02:49:28 PM
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag..A Reign of Fire, 2 Invasions, and a green Avalanche.. how can I lose....
....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)
Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on February 15, 2010, 02:50:44 PM
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haha haha.. sir you need to put that double thumb layout on it...
Do you think I could throw it like Jason Belmonte if I did that?
Post by: tizzle on February 15, 2010, 02:52:02 PM
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag..A Reign of Fire, 2 Invasions, and a green Avalanche.. how can I lose....
....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on February 15, 2010, 11:33:04 PM
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Post by: stormbowling300 on February 16, 2010, 10:18:54 PM
Post by: bowler851 on February 17, 2010, 07:47:56 AM
I did a 4x4x2 and mine sucks.
Post by: srlunatic on February 17, 2010, 07:56:50 AM
The Invasion needs oil up front and a lot of it...even with a weak layout it will still burn up front really quickly without oil. It is definitely stronger by quite a bit in my estimation than the VG.
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Post by: snowspike1 on February 19, 2010, 01:16:17 PM
1 of the 3 is an alternet "4th" team member only subs for that team and the other 2 both have a VG that is polished.
Im sorry but if you don't have enough oil to throw the VG without polish then do you really need the Invasion other than for look/statuse.... look at me i've got 1 of "the newest hook monsters".
The line the 1 guy was throwing against me was the same line i was throwing my Freeze on (3rd game) he shot 200 I shot 279 (darn 10 pin in 3rd frame). 14 out to 6.
just dosen't make sense to me.. I have a VG, VE, Rising, TFD, Freeze and the VG vary rarely gets used (used to weekly but they but out less oil this yr on league).
Post by: Bowler19 on February 20, 2010, 10:19:05 PM
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Post by: tizzle on February 21, 2010, 07:59:00 AM
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag..A Reign of Fire, 2 Invasions, and a green Avalanche.. how can I lose....
....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)
Post by: Bigmike on February 22, 2010, 06:39:35 AM
The feedback I am hearing from another driller and some of the tournament bowlers in our league is the ball's cover is very strong, probably stronger than the Virtual Gravity's. The weight block also appears to be strong also.
Big Tires/Big Engine=overhook or burn up too quickly on not enough head oil.
Since our center does not put out enough volume in the front of the lane, this weaker layout might work if I start deeper in the oil. In a worst case scenarion, I may have found a perfect ball to start USBC's with when we try to burn a spot.
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Post by: David Lee Yskes on February 22, 2010, 11:19:47 PM
At first i went polished up, then 4k, and the ball just was idk,, seemed like the reaction was too over-under. this on a fresh shot and 2nd shift shot, although the 2nd shift shot seemed to look better...
Sunday I took the ball to 2k, to see if it helped, and made that much of a difference.. Well still the ball was a bit over under, and had basically no recovery. So I then took the ball back to 4k and then polished it.
I used it that way tonight on my 2nd shift league and had a awesome look with the ball. the ball got down the lane very effort-lessly (sp) and set up in the pocket very nice, plus the move the ball makes is very consistent.
I will say this ball is not my BIGGEST hooking ball in my bag, that probably goes to my Reign of Fire @ 2k. BUT the ball does give me a nice look for a variety of things, IE playing straighter, or a 2nd shift league where i can swing it...
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Post by: themachine300 on February 23, 2010, 04:06:25 AM
This isn't me btw lol, but I saw it yesterday. I have an invasion, drilled it 6" pap above the middle finger mass bias 60 degrees. Its a monster oob on medium-heavy oil, I'm sure it would be fine on heavy oil if I dulled the cover up a lil' bit.
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Post by: r534me on February 23, 2010, 11:44:35 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZADVsMZrig&feature=fvw
This isn't me btw lol, but I saw it yesterday. I have an invasion, drilled it 6" pap above the middle finger mass bias 60 degrees. Its a monster oob on medium-heavy oil, I'm sure it would be fine on heavy oil if I dulled the cover up a lil' bit.
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Funny! I practiced in that house today. I standing 30, going over the third arrow out to 8-10 with my rapid fire solid. Not sure why anyone would use an Invasion here because it will just roll out. The pattern is 39 in the mornings with heavier volume and 42 feet with light volume in the evenings. They oiled it during my last game and I moved over to the 20 and rolled it right over 10 at the arrows and it walked into the pocket. This is from the left side so the right had to be burned up. My buddy was using his hot sauce hitting fourth arrow out to 11 or so at the break point. He didn't miss until they oiled it and then he couldn't hit the pocket from that deep.
Post by: Adrenaline on February 25, 2010, 02:39:00 AM
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Post by: snowspike1 on February 25, 2010, 12:52:02 PM
If there isn't the oil for them to throw the VG without polish then there defintley wont be for this ball.
Do some peeps think its a status symbol and wont to show off that they can buy a $230+ ball.
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on February 26, 2010, 01:03:45 AM
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Post by: Motogp69 on February 26, 2010, 07:21:16 PM
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Post by: r534me on February 26, 2010, 11:08:21 PM
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$230 for a ball????? That is nuts. I'm glad I get mine drilled for 170 drilled...
They are what..$139 less $10 so 129 on the internet shipped, and your local driller gave it you out the door for $170? That's a steal!
Post by: stormbowling300 on February 27, 2010, 08:48:38 AM
Post by: tburky on February 28, 2010, 11:37:22 AM
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The bad thing is the pro shops get them for 85 dollars lol
You think? maybe 105-120
Post by: r534me on February 28, 2010, 08:18:48 PM
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The bad thing is the pro shops get them for 85 dollars lol
Around 2000-2001 I had access to the distributors website and even then the balls were $100.00 for the hi performance line. I don''t know how they could sell it now for $85.00.
Edited on 2/28/2010 9:19 PM
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Post by: Sir Bowl-A-Lot on March 01, 2010, 09:41:49 PM
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my cost is $131.95 plus shipping from the local distributerv. thats the truth and thats why shops cant beat internet pricing.
When will they stop ripping-off the shops?
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Post by: tizzle on March 01, 2010, 10:38:28 PM
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Hmm..Lets see what I have in this bag..A radiated C-System 3.5,an Invasion, a bright red Mission, a Motiv Qz1 Fire ball,and a green Avalanche.. how can I lose....
....HG-300(2006 w/Desert Heat)...299 (03/15/09 w/Agent Orange)...HS-776 (Hot Sauce Pearl & Ebonite Magic)
Post by: Nicanor on March 02, 2010, 07:54:43 AM
But I'm still not having very much success with the Invasion. Tried it at two different houses and at different times. One house I use a Megaton or the VG and average 216. Not so lucky with the Invasion. Not stating the ball is not as adverised or that most people have success with the ball, I'm just struggling. Right now I'm throwing a C-System 3.5 along side the Invasion and I'm having much better success with the 3.5 and I'm not even a Brunswick guy.
I have an email into Storm to see if making my balance hole bigger or/and deeper will give me a little more reaction.
Thanks again,
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Post by: stroked298 on March 03, 2010, 04:40:22 AM
Now as far as money goes shops dont get theses balls for 85 unless like said from a seminar, the 85 may be what staff members get them for but not pro shops. and if your saying as a pro shop i can get them for 85 please send me the info on the suppliers who will sell it to me that cheap. Then we can all sell the ball for 170 drilled out the door
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Post by: Nicanor on March 05, 2010, 09:03:03 AM
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Post by: tommygn on March 05, 2010, 01:20:46 PM
I would need a few stats from you as far as PAP, rev rate, ball speed (I would need to know if speed is at release or down lane), Axis rotation, and tilt. I would also like to know what surface you are bowling on (DBA, HPL, ProAnvil lane, wood, guardian, etc..) and also the length of the pattern (and what part of the lane you like to play would also be beneficial). With these different items, I would be able to give you a better recommendation of what ball in the line up would match up best for you and your desired ball motion.
Also, a video would help.
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Post by: bowler851 on March 05, 2010, 03:26:13 PM
Post by: Sikxer on March 15, 2010, 08:40:06 AM
Post by: sunsetlefty on March 15, 2010, 09:13:23 AM
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Just wanted to give a little update on mine. I shot 805 with it yesterday! My games were 290, 257 & 258. The combination of this ball and drilling (double thumb) have been absolute money for me!
Nice bowling. Who's your ball driller? (Hehehe!!!!)
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