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Nicanor

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Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« on: February 14, 2010, 01:51:56 AM »
That was putting it lightly.

I tried it box, sanded and polished on long oil and short oil and no luck to date.  I even took it out of my practice bag.  I'll try it again, maybe, but it didn't replace the Virtual Gravity likee I thought it would.

I have two Virtual Gravities and threw a 300 with both and both read the lane better and carry better then the Invasion.

Maybe getting more games on the Invasion will help and I'll continue to work with the surface, but to date, I'm not having much success with the Invasion.


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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2010, 02:50:44 PM »
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haha haha.. sir you need to put that double thumb layout on it...

Do you think I could throw it like Jason Belmonte if I did that?  
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2010, 02:52:02 PM »
Haha.. you might have some hospital visits.. haha
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2010, 11:33:04 PM »
It took me some time, but I'm having good success with it now.  However, that is primarily due to my house putting more oil out there.  I've actually been able to put more surface on the ball, 2000 as a matter of fact.
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2010, 04:34:02 AM »
I love my Invasion and my house doesn't put down a lot of oil!!!!
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2010, 12:41:29 PM »
Absolute amazing ball, this ball is everything the Virtual Gravity was not.
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2010, 10:18:54 PM »
did a 4x4x3 on my invasion and it rockssssssssssssss
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2010, 07:47:56 AM »
quote:   did a 4x4x3 on my invasion and it rockssssssssssssss

I did a 4x4x2 and mine sucks.
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2010, 07:56:50 AM »
Was lucky enough to cross with Dennis Eklund from Sweden during the Dual Lane Condition Tourney in Holland. He used the Invasion he drilled up that day with I would guess a 5 1/2 to 6 inch pin (above ring) and the mb kicked about and inch from the thumb *may not be exactly the layout but close*  He used it exclusively on the long patter *46 feet of pure oil* and that ball was beautiful in his hands (then again he can make anything look great).  

The Invasion needs oil up front and a lot of it...even with a weak layout it will still burn up front really quickly without oil.  It is definitely stronger by quite a bit in my estimation than the VG.
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2010, 01:16:17 PM »
My friday morning 3 person mixed league has 3 people throwing this ball and i'm not seeing anything that makes me want to buy it.

1 of the 3 is an alternet "4th" team member only subs for that team and the other 2 both have a VG that is polished.
 
Im sorry but if you don't have enough oil to throw the VG without polish then do you really need the Invasion other than for look/statuse.... look at me i've got 1 of "the newest hook monsters".

The line the 1 guy was throwing against me was the same line i was throwing my Freeze on (3rd game) he shot 200 I shot 279 (darn 10 pin in 3rd frame). 14 out to 6.

just dosen't make sense to me.. I have a VG, VE, Rising, TFD, Freeze and the VG vary rarely gets used (used to weekly but they but out less oil this yr on league).
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2010, 10:19:05 PM »
Drilled mine 5x3 with a 3.5in buffer. Ball has a lot of back end and is smooth at the break point for me. Loving mine so far. Brought it to 2000 Abralon by hand. Ball has a tendency to shine up quickly and when it does carry becomes an issue.
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2010, 07:59:00 AM »
Well I have now two invasions. One with a dual/double thumb layout that ignores the fronts and just grabs on the backend. Shot 740 with that one the first week I got it. I have now gotten another one for an earlier read. Its drilled pin under bridge. This one hooks a ton in box surface. They compliment each other very well. The pin under ring invasion moves about 2-3 more boards then the dual angle layout, and its all up front. I am very happy with the invasions... now if the mission fits under these I will be in great shape.
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2010, 06:39:35 AM »
I drilled mine on Saturday but the center was packed both weekend days so I didn't get to throw it. I laid mine out weaker (for me) with the pin ending up above my bridge (5 1/4") and the Bolt at about a 65* angle(right of thumb by about 3/4"). I did this with my Virtual and it still flared a good 4-5".

The feedback I am hearing from another driller and some of the tournament bowlers in our league is the ball's cover is very strong, probably stronger than the Virtual Gravity's. The weight block also appears to be strong also.

Big Tires/Big Engine=overhook or burn up too quickly on not enough head oil.

Since our center does not put out enough volume in the front of the lane, this weaker layout might work if I start deeper in the oil. In a worst case scenarion, I may have found a perfect ball to start USBC's with when we try to burn a spot.
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2010, 11:19:47 PM »
Ok to update on how i feel about the Invasion.

At first i went polished up, then 4k, and the ball just was idk,, seemed like the reaction was too over-under.  this on a fresh shot and 2nd shift shot, although the 2nd shift shot seemed to look better...

Sunday I took the ball to 2k, to see if it helped, and made that much of a difference..  Well still the ball was a bit over under, and had basically no recovery.   So I then took the ball back to 4k and then polished it.

I used it that way tonight on my 2nd shift league and had a awesome look with the ball.  the ball got down the lane very effort-lessly (sp) and set up in the pocket very nice, plus the move the ball makes is very consistent.  

I will say this ball is not my BIGGEST hooking ball in my bag, that probably goes to my Reign of Fire @ 2k.   BUT the ball does give me a nice look for a variety of things, IE playing straighter, or a 2nd shift league where i can swing it...  


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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2010, 04:06:25 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZADVsMZrig&feature=fvw

This isn't me btw lol, but I saw it yesterday.  I have an invasion, drilled it 6" pap above the middle finger mass bias 60 degrees.  Its a monster oob on medium-heavy oil, I'm sure it would be fine on heavy oil if I dulled the cover up a lil' bit.
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Re: Anyone else having limited success with the Invasion?
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2010, 11:44:35 PM »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZADVsMZrig&feature=fvw

This isn't me btw lol, but I saw it yesterday.  I have an invasion, drilled it 6" pap above the middle finger mass bias 60 degrees.  Its a monster oob on medium-heavy oil, I'm sure it would be fine on heavy oil if I dulled the cover up a lil' bit.
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Funny!  I practiced in that house today.  I standing 30, going over the third arrow out to 8-10 with my rapid fire solid.  Not sure why anyone would use an Invasion here because it will just roll out.  The pattern is 39 in the mornings with heavier volume and 42 feet with light volume in the evenings.  They oiled it during my last game and I moved over to the 20 and rolled it right over 10 at the arrows and it walked into the pocket.  This is from the left side so the right had to be burned up.  My buddy was using his hot sauce hitting fourth arrow out to 11 or so at the break point.  He didn't miss until they oiled it and then he couldn't hit the pocket from that deep.
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