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Dave81644

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Ball recommendation
« on: September 07, 2020, 03:42:12 PM »
Long time EBI user.
Wont be staying with them because of made in Mexico
Want to stay with Made in USA
When EBI was in KY, they made some good stuff that fit my game well.
Latest piece that was hit/miss for EBI, but good for the lack of head oil in this area.
Track In2ition.
Very clean up front, longer, strongish downlane and predictable.
Storm or Roto, open to suggestions for something similar.
Very hard to look at stats and try to compare old ebi VS storm/roto for me, covers are different


 

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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2020, 09:19:34 PM »
I'll see Rob on Wednesdays for our challenge league, thanks again

Good luck!  Report back on what you decide to do. 
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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2020, 10:49:43 AM »
I, too, was a Hammer guy until EBI was purchased by Brunswick.  I also moved back up to 15 lbs. and was looking for a compliment to the Storm All-Road.  My pro shop guy has an In2ition and tried to sell me one, but I did not want to buy a ball made in Mexico.  So he then suggested the AstroPhysix, which I bought.
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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2020, 12:09:32 PM »
I, too, was a Hammer guy until EBI was purchased by Brunswick.  I also moved back up to 15 lbs. and was looking for a compliment to the Storm All-Road.  My pro shop guy has an In2ition and tried to sell me one, but I did not want to buy a ball made in Mexico.  So he then suggested the AstroPhysix, which I bought.

In2ition was made in Hopkinsville, one of the last releases before the Brunswick takeover

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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2020, 06:30:21 PM »
If you're open to trying Motiv, the new Jackal Flash has overall core numbers that are nearly identical the In2ition.  From there, the Flash has the ability to go through medium to heavy oil very well.  Even though it will be angular off the dry, it's still predictable. 

JR Raymond has a good video up showing the overall motion.
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MOTIV Jackal Legacy
Roto Grip No Rules Pearl Extreme

Med-Heavy:
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

Medium:
MOTIV Sigma Sting

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire
Roto Grip Nomad Dagger

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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2020, 10:37:40 PM »
Thanks, I'll check it out

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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2020, 10:27:43 PM »
I'll see Rob on Wednesdays for our challenge league, thanks again

Good luck!  Report back on what you decide to do. 

Went with the IQ tour Emerald first.
Definitely a big difference in c overstock compared to most of the EBI pieces I'm used to.
Love the shape, but to over/under initially on a fresh house pattern
At times, super predictable, goes through the pins well, as advertised
Other times, move in 2 and 1 and it skates to far on this particular night
Seems fairly speed sensitive at OBB surface
Ill either scuff it up a little or re-work the cover with 1000 + polish
Like most pieces these days, it will take some cover adjustment
My 2000 lane shined Web tour is much less speed sensitive (I know, different covers and surfaces)
I'm sure I'll get it dialed in


Thanks for all suggestions!


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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2020, 12:08:30 AM »
I'll see Rob on Wednesdays for our challenge league, thanks again

Good luck!  Report back on what you decide to do. 

Went with the IQ tour Emerald first.
Definitely a big difference in c overstock compared to most of the EBI pieces I'm used to.
Love the shape, but to over/under initially on a fresh house pattern
At times, super predictable, goes through the pins well, as advertised
Other times, move in 2 and 1 and it skates to far on this particular night
Seems fairly speed sensitive at OBB surface
Ill either scuff it up a little or re-work the cover with 1000 + polish
Like most pieces these days, it will take some cover adjustment
My 2000 lane shined Web tour is much less speed sensitive (I know, different covers and surfaces)
I'm sure I'll get it dialed in


Thanks for all suggestions!



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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2020, 07:51:50 AM »
I agree with Northface.  Instead of 1000 with polish, maybe try a 3000 or maybe 4000 without the polish to help blend in the over/under you are seeing.  If you did go 1000 with polish, maybe try Storm Step 2 polish or Brunswick Factory Compound.  I find that the compound polishes are not nearly as squirty in the oil as Factory Finish or Extra Shine.
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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2020, 11:01:08 PM »
I'll see Rob on Wednesdays for our challenge league, thanks again

Good luck!  Report back on what you decide to do. 

Went with the IQ tour Emerald first.
Definitely a big difference in c overstock compared to most of the EBI pieces I'm used to.
Love the shape, but to over/under initially on a fresh house pattern
At times, super predictable, goes through the pins well, as advertised
Other times, move in 2 and 1 and it skates to far on this particular night
Seems fairly speed sensitive at OBB surface
Ill either scuff it up a little or re-work the cover with 1000 + polish
Like most pieces these days, it will take some cover adjustment
My 2000 lane shined Web tour is much less speed sensitive (I know, different covers and surfaces)
I'm sure I'll get it dialed in


Thanks for all suggestions!



Never, ever in life, throw a box shiny RG or Storm ball. I always hit them with 3000. Otherwise you have that awful 4 pin/2-10 reaction.

I've run into the same issue over the years with the OOB polished Storm or RG balls I've thrown.  Hitting the covers with 2000, 3000, or sanding with compound tends to be more consistent in reaction from what I've seen.
Current Ball Arsenal
Heavy:
MOTIV Jackal Legacy
Roto Grip No Rules Pearl Extreme

Med-Heavy:
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

Medium:
MOTIV Sigma Sting

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire
Roto Grip Nomad Dagger

Dave81644

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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2020, 05:23:21 AM »
I picked the Emerald to combat the dry fronts.
Which at OBB, itís great.
Iíll scuff with a used 3000 and see what happens.

Eyeing up the Axiom Pearl next though

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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2020, 04:48:56 PM »
So it took 3 tries to get the surface of the emerald to cooperate with my game and lane conditions. fresh 500 Abralon and then polished it.
Now it gives me some room and doesn't over/under like it did fresh OBB.
And picked up the Axiom Pearl, pleasantly surprised and happy with this in limited use on a tough pattern and about an hour of practice afterwards.
Went pin down approx 4.5" pin-pap
Just love the shape and especially the predictable slower response to friction
scuffed by hand with a 2000 pad so far and based off my experience with the emerald, ill probably bust the cover and go 1000 + polish before Tuesday house shot league.
definitely different covers than the EBI Ive thrown for the past 10+ years.

Appreciate the input from all of you along the way
Thank You


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Re: Ball recommendation
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2020, 12:35:45 PM »
So it took 3 tires to get the surface of the emerald to cooperate with my game and lane conditions. fresh 500 Abralon and then polished it.
Now it gives me some room and doesn't over/under like it did fresh OBB.
And picked up the Axiom Pearl, pleasantly surprised and happy with this in limited use on a tough pattern and about an hour of practice afterwards.
Went pin down approx 4.5" pin-pap
Just love the shape and especially the predictable slower response to friction
scuffed by hand with a 2000 pad so far and based off my experience with the emerald, ill probably bust the cover and go 1000 + polish before Tuesday house shot league.
definitely different covers than the EBI Ive thrown for the past 10+ years.

Appreciate the input from all of you along the way
Thank You

I think the AxP cover is so strong and blendy that even with polish on most conditions, it plays fine.
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