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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: snappyarcher on January 25, 2019, 02:09:56 AM
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Need some help on a possible change in my arsenal. I plan on getting 1 ball this year for league.
Here's what i currently have:
Code Black (cover kinda died on me)
Son!q
Torrent
Crux Pearl (still works well on broken down lanes)
All Out Show Off
We rarely play on very heavy oil patterns, that's why i was surprised that my Code Black died after about 30-50 games on it.
What do you guys think? Either I drop the Code Black since it doesn't hook unless you throw it on dry lanes or I drop the Crux Pearl just because its 4 years old already.
Please help me out guys. I only got approval from my boss (wife) to get 1 new ball this year.
Thanks.
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I would detox and resurface the Code Black and Crux Pearl.
There’s a few different options. What shape are you looking for? Closer to the Torrent/AOSO or closer to the Code Black/Crux Pearl/Son!Q?
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Detox the black and resurface like the previous reply said, then punch a Crux Prime.
BTW that would be a decent set up, better than most I see on here and Facebook asking for recommendations. From top to bottom you have a decent bag!
Odds are the code black just needs some love. R2S is decently easy to get back to box finish, it won't ever be like it was new, but pretty close.
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i'm gonna help you out my man.
first, like everyone said, fight to get the code black back to "normal". detox and resurface and all that good stuff.
then, go to your local PSO and find out how much it would be to get both After Darks drilled, out the door price. then find a high end ball that will be similar in price to both the after darks combine. Then sell her on that price being the ball you want. once she OK's it, go back to your PSO to "get that ball", then call her from there and let her know you can essentially get two balls for the price of the one shes already expecting you to get. now you have two great balls that can work for you, since you said yourself you don't bowl on anything heavy.
now, there is a draw back, when you say you can essentially get two balls for the price you were expecting to pay for one, there's a chance she says "well why can't you get one of those two and spend half the amount". which is why you really have to sell the price of the one ball, really get it in her head thats how much will be spent.
thank me later
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
jeez man got alerts set up?
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
jeez man got alerts set up?
Slow day at work lol
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
jeez man got alerts set up?
Slow day at work lol
understandable. but damn, i literally just wrote your name and poof, you arrived
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
Ok I’m going beetlejuice style here...
Impending doom! Impending Doom! Impending doom!
My after dark pearl is drilled pin over the ring and I love its reaction. Say I got the solid and went pin down and adjusted the heck out of the cover, how much difference between them would there be?
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
Ok I’m going beetlejuice style here...
Impending doom! Impending Doom! Impending doom!
My after dark pearl is drilled pin over the ring and I love its reaction. Say I got the solid and went pin down and adjusted the heck out of the cover, how much difference between them would there be?
It's showtime!
I think if you went same pin to pap distance and took the cover to 2000, maybe 6 with more in the midlane.
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
Ok I’m going beetlejuice style here...
Impending doom! Impending Doom! Impending doom!
My after dark pearl is drilled pin over the ring and I love its reaction. Say I got the solid and went pin down and adjusted the heck out of the cover, how much difference between them would there be?
It's showtime!
I think if you went same pin to pap distance and took the cover to 2000, maybe 6 with more in the midlane.
You have to have notifications lol. I’m trying to decide if I want a weak solid or strong solid for my sportshot league.
I’ve got a no rules pearl (1500 grit), daredevil trick (oob finish), hyroad (oob finish) and my after dark pearl (oob finish)
I was thinking either the after dark solid or turmoil solid
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
Ok I’m going beetlejuice style here...
Impending doom! Impending Doom! Impending doom!
My after dark pearl is drilled pin over the ring and I love its reaction. Say I got the solid and went pin down and adjusted the heck out of the cover, how much difference between them would there be?
It's showtime!
I think if you went same pin to pap distance and took the cover to 2000, maybe 6 with more in the midlane.
You have to have notifications lol. I’m trying to decide if I want a weak solid or strong solid for my sportshot league.
I’ve got a no rules pearl (1500 grit), daredevil trick (oob finish), hyroad (oob finish) and my after dark pearl (oob finish)
I was thinking either the after dark solid or turmoil solid
Weak solid, After Dark solid. Strong solid, Claw.
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
Ok I’m going beetlejuice style here...
Impending doom! Impending Doom! Impending doom!
My after dark pearl is drilled pin over the ring and I love its reaction. Say I got the solid and went pin down and adjusted the heck out of the cover, how much difference between them would there be?
It's showtime!
I think if you went same pin to pap distance and took the cover to 2000, maybe 6 with more in the midlane.
You have to have notifications lol. I’m trying to decide if I want a weak solid or strong solid for my sportshot league.
I’ve got a no rules pearl (1500 grit), daredevil trick (oob finish), hyroad (oob finish) and my after dark pearl (oob finish)
I was thinking either the after dark solid or turmoil solid
Weak solid, After Dark solid. Strong solid, Claw.
But the price of that turmoil solid yo. Plus I planned on doing a lot of surface work. If I got the turmoil solid I’d keep it dull, hit my dare devil with like 3000 grit and the hyroad at 4000 and keep my ADP shiny because that’s my house shot ball
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
Ok I’m going beetlejuice style here...
Impending doom! Impending Doom! Impending doom!
My after dark pearl is drilled pin over the ring and I love its reaction. Say I got the solid and went pin down and adjusted the heck out of the cover, how much difference between them would there be?
It's showtime!
I think if you went same pin to pap distance and took the cover to 2000, maybe 6 with more in the midlane.
You have to have notifications lol. I’m trying to decide if I want a weak solid or strong solid for my sportshot league.
I’ve got a no rules pearl (1500 grit), daredevil trick (oob finish), hyroad (oob finish) and my after dark pearl (oob finish)
I was thinking either the after dark solid or turmoil solid
Weak solid, After Dark solid. Strong solid, Claw.
But the price of that turmoil solid yo. Plus I planned on doing a lot of surface work. If I got the turmoil solid I’d keep it dull, hit my dare devil with like 3000 grit and the hyroad at 4000 and keep my ADP shiny because that’s my house shot ball
You're asking 1. A staffer and 2. Loyal customer since they came out with their first ball. And you think I'm gonna say "Yeah, Turmoil sounds like the best thing for you!"
In all seriousness, it has a proven core and is a good value.
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
smoothness. I'll admit i only have the pearl but if you skip over to the 900 global forum here, theres a member named impending doom who can really break it down.
but my after dark pearl gets long and is smooth as opposed to jumpy on the back end, the solid is even smoother and earlier
I heard my name!
S30 is weak, but the solid is smoother and earlier, and the pearl is longer, but not super snappy. I'd say there's about 3 boards difference between the 2
Ok I’m going beetlejuice style here...
Impending doom! Impending Doom! Impending doom!
My after dark pearl is drilled pin over the ring and I love its reaction. Say I got the solid and went pin down and adjusted the heck out of the cover, how much difference between them would there be?
It's showtime!
I think if you went same pin to pap distance and took the cover to 2000, maybe 6 with more in the midlane.
You have to have notifications lol. I’m trying to decide if I want a weak solid or strong solid for my sportshot league.
I’ve got a no rules pearl (1500 grit), daredevil trick (oob finish), hyroad (oob finish) and my after dark pearl (oob finish)
I was thinking either the after dark solid or turmoil solid
Weak solid, After Dark solid. Strong solid, Claw.
But the price of that turmoil solid yo. Plus I planned on doing a lot of surface work. If I got the turmoil solid I’d keep it dull, hit my dare devil with like 3000 grit and the hyroad at 4000 and keep my ADP shiny because that’s my house shot ball
You're asking 1. A staffer and 2. Loyal customer since they came out with their first ball. And you think I'm gonna say "Yeah, Turmoil sounds like the best thing for you!"
In all seriousness, it has a proven core and is a good value.
Lol I got ya man. I do love my after dark and it’s my foot in the door to the brand. But I’m not contracted like you :) :)
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I have the after dark solid. Cant say enough good things about it on hooking or short patterns. Having said that I dont know if I would recommend it as a one new ball. Where does your Soniq fit in for you? I just added an Idol pearl. Unless you are really playing on dirt it could be a good option.
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Snappy do yourself a favor. Drill a tour iq solid. It will be your benchmark, everyday ball that will cover all medium lane conditions. One of the most versatile, best storm balls ever made. Takes well to surface adjustments too. Just put your favorite drill in it and fire away. If you like storm, rg stuff. This is a must have in your arsenal.
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Snappy do yourself a favor. Drill a tour iq solid. It will be your benchmark, everyday ball that will cover all medium lane conditions. One of the most versatile, best storm balls ever made. Takes well to surface adjustments too. Just put your favorite drill in it and fire away. If you like storm, rg stuff. This is a must have in your arsenal.
Which Storm or Roto Ball is must have for league? IQ Tour Solid? Hyroad? Phase II?Anything else?
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IQ tour will be a blessing on sport or tougher conditions
HY-road is a house shot must
Phaze ii would be the most different from what you already own.
Of the 3 probably ohaze 2 would help you out the most..
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Hy-Road or shine up a Match Up Black Pearl
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Tour iq solid. You can make the tour iq solid do anything with with surface adjustments. Don’t be afraid to drill it on the strong side. It’s a low differential ball with tight flares. My low pin is a house shot, over under killer.
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
If you have an automatic dish washer you can do it in there. Just make sure you don't have extra heated water option and turn off the heated drying. Or you can put your ball in a bucket of hot water. Either method, just make sure your hot water isn't more than 125 deg Fahrenheit
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Keep em coming guys.
I forgot to mention that i'm from the Philippines. I don't think we have the Detox machine in any of the Pro Shops here. Is there a way i can do that by myself or with the help of my PSO?
@michael.willis9 i'll keep your tip in my back pocket. Btw, what's the difference of the 2 After Darks?
If you have an automatic dish washer you can do it in there. Just make sure you don't have extra heated water option and turn off the heated drying. Or you can put your ball in a bucket of hot water. Either method, just make sure your hot water isn't more than 125 deg Fahrenheit
Hot Tap water and Dawn Ultra Detergent @ 5 minute intervals in a utility sink or a 5 gallons plastic bucket, but whatever works for each bowler I suppose. ;) I use cork stoppers) bought @ a hardware store) to plug thumb & finger holes. Been using this method for several years and works well for me. Also use my PSO to remove oil every so often as well, when I have a few extra coins to spend.
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Hi Guys,
There are new stocks that arrived here in the Philippines recently.
Here are my choices:
Intense Fire
Physix
Crux Prime
Halo Pearl
Halo
Hyroad X
IQ Tour Solid
Code X
I am looking for a replacement for my Code Black. I need a ball stronger than the Code Black and Soniq.
Kindly help me choose from the balls i mentioned above.
Thanks.
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Halo Pearl is the winner of that crop.
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Halo Pearl is the winner of that crop.
Can you kindly tell me what made it the winner? By the way, i need something for longer patterns like 42 and 44ft patterns.
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sounds to me you need to change ball companies,storm balls suck they don't last like they used to for a good reason sic{money}
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sounds to me you need to change ball companies,storm balls suck they don't last like they used to for a good reason sic{money}
I disagree with this. I've had no problems with my equipment performing since picking up some cleaning tips from here and some experts. If you have a good general cleaner and a deep cleaner, your equipment will hold up pretty well. Combine that with a detox when needed and surface touch ups/resurface and you should have no issues.
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Well for one we have limited options here for cleaners. We dont have those detox machines here.
And since i have a budget from our company to get a new ball, thats why i want to get a new one and replace the ball which i really dont use anymore rathelar than make surface changes to it. I'll justblet the one who will buy it enjoy the ball as it is.
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sounds to me you need to change ball companies,storm balls suck they don't last like they used to for a good reason sic{money}
I disagree with this. I've had no problems with my equipment performing since picking up some cleaning tips from here and some experts. If you have a good general cleaner and a deep cleaner, your equipment will hold up pretty well. Combine that with a detox when needed and surface touch ups/resurface and you should have no issues.
^^ This.
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Th oil cleaning wipes I have seem to restore almost all my equipment including stuff back to like 2000.
The creators of them claimed they were even better than oil baking ovens. The reason for that he said was, no heat (and risk of cracking), and it combines oil removal with pore cleaning which allows the coverstock to reabsorb oil. This very important last step is NOT done by the oil cleaning furnaces!
They were called Adrenaline wipes but they may have been reconstituted as an Ebonite product
Regards,
Luckylefty
PS to take a very old very oil logged ball back to factory acting new it will sometimes take 3 applications. However on the wet/dry shots I bowl on I often don't want brand new type of quick response off the dry! Too fast for wet/dry with my soft speed!
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Hi guys! Just a quick update.
After considering all your suggestions, I asked my PSO to work on my Code Black. He did a very good job in bringing it back to life and had it back as close to OOB as he can get.
As for the new ball, i decided to retire/sell my old reliable Crux Pearl.
I originally wanted a Physix or Halo or Crux Prime but it was sold out since they only get a few balls per quarter. I was quite disappointed until my PSO offered me an Idol! Since i've read alot of good reviews here about the Idol, I went ahead and got that.
So here's my new arsenal. Please let me know if i have any gaps i should address. I will be in the market for another ball by Dec or January 2020.
Code Black
Son!q
Idol
Torrent
All Out Show Off
Blue Dot (Spare Ball)
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Not a bad arsenal; You do need something for the heavier and dryer lane conditions to complete it (As you don’t have enough for the flood, and nothing to combat the lighter conditions, and as a result, your balls will overreact in the front part of the lane, if not at your feet).
Fill those 2 slots, and your good to go imo.
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Btw, you are also overlapping on the sonic/code black, (possibly even Sonic/idol,since their both transition pieces); You can however, make them work with surface/layout changes, to get different shapes/motions on various parts of the lane.
Just something to keep in mind.
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Btw, you are also overlapping on the sonic/code black, (possibly even Sonic/idol,since their both transition pieces); You can however, make them work with surface/layout changes, to get different shapes/motions on various parts of the lane.
Just something to keep in mind.
I wouldn't say the Son!Q and Idol overlap at alll, but I agree with the rest.
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That’s fair, but they both do read the lane early (not to far off on the back end motions as well, although there is a difference). ;)