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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: 2handedrook12 on April 14, 2014, 06:36:39 PM

Title: Broad Question
Post by: 2handedrook12 on April 14, 2014, 06:36:39 PM
I was reading another poster's question and it gave me something else to think about. I already decided to pick up a Zero Gravity this summer to dominate patterns with some oil; however, I still need a medium oil ball that is rolly with a clean motion upfront. I realize I am not a fan of the flip motion. As nice as it looks, it isn't what I need. The right surface is what really matters to me. What do you all recommend?
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: Dogtown on April 15, 2014, 07:48:40 AM
Something symmetrical with a little surface.  There are tons to choose from depending on what brand you prefer.

Brunswick Mean Streak Beatdown or DV8 Marauder Madness are good ones.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: Mr Straight Ball on April 15, 2014, 08:13:23 AM
I'll offer you a few choices to look into with your driller.

Solid: !Q Tour
Hybrid: Hy-Road

Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: northface28 on April 15, 2014, 10:08:05 AM
Oops, I saw broad and thought you were talking about ratchet women, good day.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: Impending Doom on April 15, 2014, 12:24:02 PM
Oops, I saw broad and thought you were talking about ratchet women, good day.

Me too.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: 2handedrook12 on April 15, 2014, 06:20:57 PM
I already own a Hy-Road. I love it, but I want a different reaction.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: northface28 on April 15, 2014, 09:45:29 PM
I already own a Hy-Road. I love it, but I want a different reaction.

Lights Out, with a lower pin.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: STORMHOOKER26 on April 16, 2014, 07:43:45 AM
Look into Marvel Pearl. It's smooth for a pearl. Plus you could always sand a little for earlier rolls. Lights Out will be flippy. IQ  tour solid will start to burn up on some medium conditions. IQ Fusion is great but a bit flippy for a hybrid. Marvel Pearl is earlier and smoother.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: todvan on April 16, 2014, 09:14:59 PM
I already own a Hy-Road. I love it, but I want a different reaction.

Lights Out, with a lower pin.

THIS
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: LazyK on April 17, 2014, 10:24:22 AM
I have a Lights Out pin down with 2000 surface. Smoothest ball in my bag.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: STORMHOOKER26 on April 17, 2014, 12:44:37 PM
this sounds interesting.  Does it handle oil better with the 2000 finish or is it just a smoother medium/light oil ball?
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: 2handedrook12 on April 17, 2014, 03:20:17 PM
I have a Lights Out. I don't really like the reaction. Very inconsistent ball imo. I think maybe it's time for me to get away from r2s. I need more strength then what those balls provide. Marvel pearl as a step down to the Zero Gravity when I get one? Hmmm... I'll consider. I actually was thinking about the Marvel Pearl and Deranged. The only way I wouldn't get a Marvel earl is if it is retired before I am able to get one. I really want the Zero first though because of it's strength in vore and cover. I haven't had a ball of that calibur since the Virtual Gravity with a drilling that didn't suit my game. (inexperienced)
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: STORMHOOKER26 on April 17, 2014, 05:33:53 PM
 Yes Marvel Pearl is a step down from Zero Gravity, but I have to ask.  Why would you want a Zero Gravity if you dont like skid/flip reaction?  This ball is Very angular for a solid.  Its also not a particularly strong solid.  I am not saying its a bad ball at all, but Storm designed this ball to be more usable on house conditions(aka weaker).  It gets through the fronts well for a solid and has a very angular move to the pocket while being able to handle a moderate amount of oil. Its not really a heavy oil ball. If you want something that will handle alot of oil without being too angular, you might want to look elswhere(like a Marvel-S or Hyper Cell.)  This is my general opinion without knowing how you bowl or what type of conditions your going to be on,  so take from this what you may.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: northface28 on April 17, 2014, 07:28:51 PM
I have a Lights Out. I don't really like the reaction. Very inconsistent ball imo. I think maybe it's time for me to get away from r2s. I need more strength then what those balls provide. Marvel pearl as a step down to the Zero Gravity when I get one? Hmmm... I'll consider. I actually was thinking about the Marvel Pearl and Deranged. The only way I wouldn't get a Marvel earl is if it is retired before I am able to get one. I really want the Zero first though because of it's strength in vore and cover. I haven't had a ball of that calibur since the Virtual Gravity with a drilling that didn't suit my game. (inexperienced)

If your rev rate is 520+, R2S covers should be plenty strong.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: storm making it rain on April 18, 2014, 10:35:29 AM
How about a Roto Rumble?  For its price point that ball looks fantastic and takes surface changes really well from what i've seen.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: LazyK on April 18, 2014, 11:39:24 AM
this sounds interesting.  Does it handle oil better with the 2000 finish or is it just a smoother medium/light oil ball?

Doesn't handle anymore oil, I use Asylum/Hyper Cell for heavier oil. But it does give me the smooth continuous hook when lanes breaking down.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: 2handedrook12 on April 19, 2014, 04:38:25 AM
The Hy-Road isn't made to handle oil. It is for medium at best. After that, it skids down the lane. Yes my rev rate is high, but I also release the ball about 20-21 mph. R2X is even a stretch.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: tkkshop on April 19, 2014, 08:28:15 AM
Reign on or reign of power?
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: 2handedrook12 on April 19, 2014, 04:50:17 PM
Reign on is definitely not smooth and the Reign of Power's cover is a little too much. I spoke to my pro shop guy and a few other of my advisors tofay. They all said that I should be looking at the Asylum.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: tkkshop on April 19, 2014, 05:00:18 PM
With proper layouts, the reign on can indeed be smooth. Thr Asylum will be a ball up on the Zero. It will be smoother, but for me it is more overall. Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: northface28 on April 19, 2014, 06:22:33 PM
Reign on is definitely not smooth and the Reign of Power's cover is a little too much. I spoke to my pro shop guy and a few other of my advisors tofay. They all said that I should be looking at the Asylum.

The Reign of Power is R2S, but earlier you said its not strong enough, but today the cover is a little too much?
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: tkkshop on April 19, 2014, 07:53:45 PM
Reign on is definitely not smooth and the Reign of Power's cover is a little too much. I spoke to my pro shop guy and a few other of my advisors tofay. They all said that I should be looking at the Asylum.

The Reign of Power is R2S, but earlier you said its not strong enough, but today the cover is a little too much?
the Reign of Power is the PFT solid. Great rolling piece at 2000. Reminds me of the Asylum.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: 2handedrook12 on April 20, 2014, 11:59:41 AM
Thank you for adding that tkkshop.

I asked about the Reign of Power a few months ago. I was told that it would burn up for me unless I used it with some polish. That defeats the purpose of me getting a ball that I can use on oil. I am going to stay with the Asylum and see how that works out for me. I normally have great success with a ball that has an earlier read and great continuation. If I am not mistaken, that is what the Asylum is made to do.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: tkkshop on April 20, 2014, 12:20:26 PM
The Asylum is a great choice. I feel it is a little stronger than the Zero, but they are a great 1-2 on medium heavy as they do differ in motion. Good luck with your new pieces!
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: 2handedrook12 on April 20, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
Thanks everyone. I have one last question. How would an !Q Tour Sold compare to an Asylum? I am definitely going to get both;I just want to know if I'll need to change the surface on them and drill the Asylum differently.I am trading my Lights Out for an !Q Tour Solid.

To anyone who will probably bash me for the !Q Tour, please understand that the core is strong enough for the R2S solid. The Reign of Power has a core that will promote more length.
Title: Re: Broad Question
Post by: tkkshop on April 20, 2014, 02:47:54 PM
The Tour Solid is a weaker version of the Zero. A weaker cover and a weaker core, but for me very similar motions. The Zero will handle heavier volumes up front due to the stronger cover as well. My Tour solid is more of a bench piece. Predictable and continuous. I think the Asylum will me stonger in the mids. Layouts and your style may yield a different result. I am also 20 mph at release and 450 plus rev rate.

The reign of power is sooner than the tour solid. The reign on has the same length with more angle for me. The cam core has a much higher rg than the tour series cores. I feel you will go Asylum, Zero, Tour solid, Hyroad. Thats some great choices to have in your bag!