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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: northface28 on December 18, 2017, 01:12:34 PM
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Granted, I have about 10-12 games on this ball, at one house on the same pair that plays really cliffed. This ball 2 pin or 10 pins more than anything ive had in quite some time. Ive tried 4000, it was way too lazy, then 3000, better, but still too much up lane and not enough in the oil. If I ever need to shoot 200-210, this is going to be a great ball. On softer conditions, I dont think this ball strikes enough.
What is everyone elses thoughts on this ball? Getting pretty close to giving it to a youth bowler.
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Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.
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Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.
That would probably help, Code Red.
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Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.
That would probably help, Code Red.
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Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.
That would probably help, Code Red.
Yeah, I may get a Intense or a another NRP for house.
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I actually lean more towards the NRP now than the Intense. Get wildly different looks out of the Intense depending on oil volume, NRP is more . . not necessarily consistent, it just either hooks more or hooks less, but the look on the lane is consistent. If I have enough volume, the Intense is an absolute monster, but on the drier side, it pukes all over the place, it's an all or nothing ball for me.
Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.
That would probably help, Code Red.
Yeah, I may get a Intense or a another NRP for house.
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I actually lean more towards the NRP now than the Intense. Get wildly different looks out of the Intense depending on oil volume, NRP is more . . not necessarily consistent, it just either hooks more or hooks less, but the look on the lane is consistent. If I have enough volume, the Intense is an absolute monster, but on the drier side, it pukes all over the place, it's an all or nothing ball for me.
Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.
That would probably help, Code Red.
Yeah, I may get a Intense or a another NRP for house.
Good to know, looks like the initial aura of the intense wore off.
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Kind of. Needs more volume than I initially realized, so it's a little too niche of a reaction to carry around everywhere unless you know it's going to be in play.
I actually lean more towards the NRP now than the Intense. Get wildly different looks out of the Intense depending on oil volume, NRP is more . . not necessarily consistent, it just either hooks more or hooks less, but the look on the lane is consistent. If I have enough volume, the Intense is an absolute monster, but on the drier side, it pukes all over the place, it's an all or nothing ball for me.
Code Red is a disaster on anything cliffed. It's smooth enough that it's actually better the flatter the shot gets for me, it's too over/under on "easier" stuff.
Which Code? The Codes are interesting because despite the super strong cores, they have the Hyroad and Hyroad Pearl covers on them, and R2S is one of the weaker covers Storm makes right now, so they're unique in that they rev like a stronger ball but don't exactly hook off the planet.
That would probably help, Code Red.
Yeah, I may get a Intense or a another NRP for house.
Good to know, looks like the initial aura of the intense wore off.
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Well, live and learn. I'll admit, the Intense is the first ball I've bought on impulse due to the hype on review videos. Lesson learned, caveat emptor... All that stuff.
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Yeah . . I still like mine, just hard to figure everything out about a ball when information and videos need to get out. Usually I don't run into this kind of ball that acts really different on different conditions. Hyroad Nano acts the same on everything, it just hooks more or less. Same with the All Out Show Off, same look everywhere. Intense is a different story.
Well, live and learn. I'll admit, the Intense is the first ball I've bought on impulse due to the hype on review videos. Lesson learned, caveat emptor... All that stuff.
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I loved my Code Black...sold my Code Red after 3-4 sessions with it. It was a disaster on house shot. I didn't give it a fair shake on sport but I already hit the point where it wasn't worth keeping in my mind. I like my NRP much better on house shot than I did the Code Red.
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I really like my Code Red on THS, but now that the box finish is gone on my Hy-road Nano, that ball is matching up perfectly for me. Like Luke said in his video, it just does everything right. I can see me buying more of them in the future. Still need to get the original as well.
As for the Intense vs NRP, definitely go with the NRP. It's just more versatile and will give you a consistent reaction. The Intense is good, but it's definitely a condition ball. I've used mine at box, 3000 dull, 2000 dull, and now 2000 with polish. It's just not a ball I can rely on on any given day. When the shot is there, it is really good. Otherwise, no.
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I thought the Intense was going to be an amazing ball for house bowlers after watching a 210-average bowler go 762 out of box. #smallsamplesize
However, what I've seen is a somewhat uneven and uncontrollable ball reaction for most house bowlers. In this way I see it as being similar to the Timeless (even though they both have unique ball motions).
Also from what I've seen, I like the Code Red. Maybe it's another IQ Tour Solid on THS for some but I've seen some fairly solid scores with it. I hate the phrase "Some balls just don't match up well with a particular bowler" but, yeah, might be time to throw in the towel before it costs too much bracket/eliminator money...
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Although it’s the market of today, the Code Red/Black is overpriced for the money spent to purchase when their far better options out there for less; I do find the code black the better version of the 2....
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Although it’s the market of today, the Code Red/Black is overpriced for the money spent to purchase when their far better options out there for less; I do find the code black the better version of the 2....
Last month to get a Code Black.
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I guess I am one of the only ones that can use the code red on virtually anything. I use to have a hyper cell skid pin below my middle finger which is around a 5 3/4 pin to pap for me and I swung the mass out about 50 degrees and that was the best ball I ever had to control wet/dry or black and white house shots but even was great on sport. When I got the code red hybrid covers never matched up to me very well so I stuck with that same layout and the code red is almost all I throw on house and later in the day at college tournaments. I have 2000 on it and it still shows angularity when need be but when it sees the friction it is still controllable and rolls heavily off of it. A lot of people I have seen has struggled a bit with this ball though and it does kind of shock me.
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Although it’s the market of today, the Code Red/Black is overpriced for the money spent to purchase when their far better options out there for less; I do find the code black the better version of the 2....
Last month to get a Code Black.
Where do you find out what balls are being discontinued? What’s the end date for the code black??
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Although it’s the market of today, the Code Red/Black is overpriced for the money spent to purchase when their far better options out there for less; I do find the code black the better version of the 2....
Last month to get a Code Black.
Where do you find out what balls are being discontinued? What’s the end date for the code black??
Usually through my PSO via whatever their source is, I'm assuming distributors with heads up for future orders. Larger sellers than my local pro shop, like the online retailers may have a decent on hand stock and offer it for a bit longer.
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Although it’s the market of today, the Code Red/Black is overpriced for the money spent to purchase when their far better options out there for less; I do find the code black the better version of the 2....
lefty70,
Care to elaborate on those better options?
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I almost bought a Code Black from Buddies last night. But started thinking in the back of my head “do I need another Intense or Code Red one game ball?†I got them as fun balls and did realize that they were on the Premeire novelty line. Was thinking maybe the Code Black could be an upgrade for my Hyroad Pearl if the price is right. Perhaps a Code Solid will be released and that’s why the Code Black is being discounted.
On a side note:
I had 2 good games out of 3 with the Intense last night. Perhaps it was the bottle of Vodka I bought and shared with friends for a toast to winter solstice, my favorite pagean event; or the wisdom of hall of famer Barry telling me to just put my favorite surface on it and figure out where it likes to be rolled. So I did just that and the Intense told me it wanted to be played in the middle far left to right and showed me it’s stupid crazy carry. It was a fun night and I used it all 3 games. The Intense and I are friends now and have an accord.
I used mine as a step up from the Hy-Road Pearl, and it worked beautifully. Still has a big engine so you have to know when to move with it or put it away. I ruined what could have been a phenomenal set but not doing so. I went 279-258-155. The 155 consisted of so many pegged 10 9/'s and a big 4 leave, it got ugly, but that was on me.
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Alonzo,
So far for me it’s been a one game wonder; but it’s starting to turn around now to a 2 game wonder. I remember when I shot 254 first game, then shot 132 with it. Week after I shot 130 game 1 then shot 200. Last Friday was 160 game 1 then 199 and 207. I’ll give it a try next week and see if I can get 3 even scores over 190.
I haven’t used the Code Red much yet. For some reason I’m more cautious about using it and prefer the Dare Devils over it. Last time the Code Red was out which was last Monday; it was really over/under so I put it away and will knock down the Polish this week.
A ball up from the Hyroad Pearl? I can see that. Currently I’m not really sure where to put mine. Right now I bagged it with the Marvel S and Marvel Pearl. Before that it pretty sat alone and before that had it bagged with Code Red and Dare Devil Trick.
Like I said, I was buying Motiv for 3 years and just need to figure out the 1500 Polish.
I think your doing great with yours, so keep up the good work!
1500 polish is the devil, just scuff the ball and re-polish when you get it. Ive successfully concluded the Code Red is terrible when the lanes is cliffed, better on flatter patterns when you need to keep the ball in front of you.
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Concur on the Code Red, nowhere near the money they ask for; My Freakshow (discontinued now) which is designed for medium conditions at best, would handle more oil, and make it up the cliff more then the code red would ( from me testing it myself).
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Concur on the Code Red, nowhere near the money they ask for; My Freakshow (discontinued now) which is designed for medium conditions at best, would handle more oil, and make it up the cliff more then the code red would ( from me testing it myself).
Not familiar with the Freakshow, but I believe you.
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Yes. I generally like the out of box surface, but Code Red is too much on dry and not enough on oil. Flatter the shot the better.
Alonzo,
So far for me it’s been a one game wonder; but it’s starting to turn around now to a 2 game wonder. I remember when I shot 254 first game, then shot 132 with it. Week after I shot 130 game 1 then shot 200. Last Friday was 160 game 1 then 199 and 207. I’ll give it a try next week and see if I can get 3 even scores over 190.
I haven’t used the Code Red much yet. For some reason I’m more cautious about using it and prefer the Dare Devils over it. Last time the Code Red was out which was last Monday; it was really over/under so I put it away and will knock down the Polish this week.
A ball up from the Hyroad Pearl? I can see that. Currently I’m not really sure where to put mine. Right now I bagged it with the Marvel S and Marvel Pearl. Before that it pretty sat alone and before that had it bagged with Code Red and Dare Devil Trick.
Like I said, I was buying Motiv for 3 years and just need to figure out the 1500 Polish.
I think your doing great with yours, so keep up the good work!
1500 polish is the devil, just scuff the ball and re-polish when you get it. Ive successfully concluded the Code Red is terrible when the lanes is cliffed, better on flatter patterns when you need to keep the ball in front of you.