Author Topic: Could my deuce already be dead? (Read 4010 times)

mumzie · « **on:** August 03, 2003, 08:02:23 PM »

I'm down here in Vegas at the regional players championship. I used my Deuce the first day of qualifying, and it looked "ok", but didn't carry very well.
How many games should I get out of a Deuce?
I bought this one in April, and it probably has 60-80 games on it. It is cleaned after EVERY use, and deep cleaned every 10 games or so.
Anyone else find the same thing?
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Brickguy221 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2003, 11:21:06 AM »

The Storm Lovers will disagree with me, but your current experience with the Duece is typical for me on every Storm Ball I've ever owned, and I've owned several.

brimar · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2003, 11:45:50 AM »

Wow ive got well over 150 games on my lrg and its strong as ever, but everyone is different as is every ball so im not sure about your duece. I cant comment on my x-factor cause im lucky if ive got 30 games on it and its still screamin on the backends.

Most other balls ive had needed to be resurfaced (for me) after 100-150 games depending on the ball. My red alert tracked up very fast and died out thus has been resurfaced more than any other ball ive owned.

Did your duece track up?

my storms seem avg on track wear but nothing comes close to trackin up fast as brunswick stuff and ive had a few over the years. dont get me wrong i love my red alert and still have it and get it out every once and a while. just wish it didnt track up so damm bad.
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TyLytle · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2003, 12:09:00 PM »

I use a lot of Storm balls. I do not have the Deuce. But I bet there is another reason for this. Don't do anything with the ball until you try resurfacing. The only Storm that died fast on me was the Boost.

Hope you are having a GREAT time!

Ty

stormerjip · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2003, 06:02:27 PM »

I know this is going to sound stupid but there was a post a while back that i have noticed the same and agree with it that on the acutread coverstock if u clean it every time that it has the tendency to kill it. if u stop cleaning it for a while then the life should come back to it.

mumzie · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2003, 08:35:49 PM »

1. No - the ball does NOT appear to be tracked up.
2. I've just been cleaning the ball - not changing the surface in any way. The place I bowl league has FILTHY undergrounds - I have to clean the ball...
3. The last storm stuff I bought new was a firestorm and forest firestorm. So I have NO recent experience with storm stuff. I found Brunswick instead.
However - if this really is typical of newer storm stuff, I'll stick with Brunswick, thank you very much. I can't believe I spend $200 for a ball and get only a few games out of it. Storm, and all the other ball manufacturers that pull this crap, should be sued and have to pay me back - I bought this ball in good faith, took good care of it by known best practices, and should get a little bit more out of it than I already have. I'm furious.

My Smash/R has 3 or 4 times the games, and it's still going strong. My ORIGINAL speed zone is still going, but getting tired. That ball probably has 2000+ games on it! I still have my original Danger Zone - yep - had that ball a LOT of years! Never done anything to it but clean it, and it's one of the strongest, best balls I own.

The heck with storm.
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2003, 08:43:04 PM »

I do not have a duece, but with you being a tournament, is there a change that the conditions vary from where you normally bowl and is the reason it is not hooking as much? I have had several balls from just about every manufacturer and never had one die.

mumzie · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2003, 08:45:48 PM »

The tournament last weekend was the perfect condition for the deuce. And it did hook. It just didn't hit right.
I ended up using my Rev and my Speed Zone on Sunday, and I liked the reaction MUCH better with both of those.
The Deuce is on it's way to Goleta for the next regional right now. I'm hoping it'll work ok there. If not, it's history...
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C-G ProShop-Carl · « **Reply #8 on:** August 04, 2003, 08:57:30 PM »

Since it is such an expensive ball I would try everything with the surface I could before I got rid of it. Try having it polished with 800 grit compound. That could do the trick. MOST (not all) reactives didn't hit well until I put a slight shine with compound on them. It could just be drilled too aggressively as well. If that is the case then maybe you should polish it up to 1200 or 1500. If it is drilled too aggressively it is probably burning up before it gets to the pocket.

I am not a huge fan of Storm, but I just do not see a reason to throw an expensive piece of equipment away before you try everything. If you decide to get rid of it, let me know. Maybe we can work out a trade or something.

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 04, 2003, 09:53:07 PM »

Mumzie, as I already said above, your experience with a Storm Ball is typical of the experience I have had with Storm Balls. Especially the original X-Factor. I agree with you that you need to stay with Brunswick as they have some really good balls out there now. And the Ebonite V2's remain very good too. And of coarse a lot of people don't want to spend that much money, but the ones that do, have found that Lane 1 has some excellent balls. I recently bought my first Lane 1, a Blueberry, and it is the first ball out of my bag now. It is so versatile and you can play from all sorts of angles and conditions with it. There is never any over/under and the sharp smooth angular backend keeps on hooking regardless of whether there is carry down or no carry down.

TyLytle · « **Reply #10 on:** August 04, 2003, 09:57:17 PM »

Brick. Sounds like you like your BB. I gave mine to Ron..LOL
Going to order The Blade series soon. Well not the sling, but the other 3.

Later,
Ty

Brickguy221 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 04, 2003, 10:04:40 PM »

Ty, I love the BB. I haven't thrown a ball from the Blade Series, but they tell me they are very good balls. I'll probably buy another Lane 1 on my next purchase and of coarse Doug Sterner will drill it as he both lays the ball out and drills to perfection. He laid mine out different than yours was. That may and may not have been some of the problem with yours.

DanH78 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 04, 2003, 11:02:33 PM »

Most of the stuff I own is Storm, including a Deuce. Never had one die. Bought my Duece the week it came out, must be approaching the 150 game mark and still going strong. I've taken the ball from shiny to dull and back to shiny. Maybe the ball was just having one of those weekends.

Steven · « **Reply #13 on:** August 05, 2003, 02:00:08 PM »

mumzie: First I want to emphasize that I'm not a Storm freak. I have more Ebonite equipment than anything else, and will probably continue down that path.

Regardless, I do have a Storm El Nino Gold, which has the same ACCU-Tread cover as the Deuce. The ball has 300+ games, and still has most of it's original reaction.

I know you're experienced, knowledgable, and aren't the type to cry 'ball death' the first time things don't go well. But the death you described with ACCU-Tread cover just doesn't make sense. You did mention that you haven't altered the cover, and that might be part of the reason. Higher technology covers have to be maintained beyond 'routine cleaning' to maintain their original reaction. The ACCU-Tread cover is reactive, but does have MICA in the shell. I'd lightly hit the cover with a Grey 800 Grit Scothbrite pad, or if you don't have a spinner, use a product like NeoTac Liquid Sandpaper to lightly refresh the shell. Then use your favorite polish to bring the cover to approximately 1000 grit, and you should be good to go.

It's premature to declare the ball 'dead' and give up on it.
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Leftyhi-trak · « **Reply #14 on:** August 06, 2003, 12:54:34 PM »

I believe you might have one of two problems going on. 1 is too much surface the other could be to much flare. The only reason i say that is, the cover is more aggresive on the Deuce than the REV. Especially when combined with the high flare of that core. I have run into this on a few occasions with particle or reactive solids. They hit ok, but just like something is missing. Switch to a bit less surface or flare ball and a slightly better look but carry is way better. I probably would have hit it with a bit of Black Magic. Was the pattern fairly short and are the lanes synthetic?

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