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riggs

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Ethical dilemma
« on: February 22, 2011, 11:13:50 PM »
I am thinking it is wrong to use my new VIRTUAL GRAVITY NANOs in any competition until March 1, when they become available to the public.

 

You all agree?

 

PBA rules prohibit the use of any ball until after its release date of availability for PBA members. (They were OK for the USBC Masters.)


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riggs

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Re: Ethical dilemma
« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2011, 08:04:26 AM »

 No way is it 3-5 stronger. It's the same core with an enhanced cover but not 3-5.



230-n-up-or-bust wrote on 2/24/2011 11:49 AM:
3-5 stronger than a VIRTUAL GRAVITY?
 



riggs wrote on 2/24/2011 11:39 AM:
230 = LOL.  Based on what I saw yesterday, not sure if I will be able to use them Saturday -- old wood surface on Kegel Beaten Path.  Maybe Sunday on challenge shot on HPLs in Joliet.

 

Willow = depends which of their conditions they put down.


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230-n-up-or-bust

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Re: Ethical dilemma
« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2011, 08:25:50 AM »
riggs, the mere fact that you've achieved more in your lifetime than just about anyone else who posts here and still takes a moment to "take our temperature" on a question of ethics proves any number of things.  
 
#1) From a guy that epitomizes what the "sport" of bowling should be, you have few, if any equals within the sport.
#2) Stopping in here from time-to-time and not rubbing every damned success story about tournament successes or big scores shot in league proves you're not about the bling, you're more about substance.  You're NOT a man of the people, you've risen above that moreso with what you DO NOT say rather than what you actually say or type.  You choose to report about a story, a tournament, or an issue from the kind of first hand perspective a lot of folks can only dream about providing.
 #3) Knowing what you know about the internet, you should have known better than to try and pose a truly ethical question to the masses.  As tough as this might be for you to say aloud, you've earned the right to tell someone, "..you're a real PITA...now please move out of the way as you're blocking the beautiful glare that emits from the base of my second of my four USBC Eagles."
 
All that's left is to throw the NANO.  Win the tournament.  Stop by with a worthy RIGJAM. 


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Edited by 230-n-up-or-bust on 2/25/2011 at 9:30 AM

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Re: Ethical dilemma
« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2011, 09:33:45 AM »
After reading this post, I am surprized you are using them.

 

After countless threads about having the right ball in your hands being important because you can't out execute bad ball reaction, anything different may have the potential to match someone up faster,better or on something that may not have matched before. Different  is different. Does a true sportsman want any advantage?
Dale 



riggs wrote on 2/23/2011 8:50 AM:
Locke especially you are completely missing the point. It is not the real-world impact -- I'm one of those who think that ball technology has essentially peaked and don't think there would be any huge advantage in using the NANO. I don't think we'll ever see anything like the XCALIBUR again.


 


This is a matter of principal and doing the right thing and being a sportsman. I am 100 percent sincere with this. If you don't get any of that you clearly are NOT a sportsman.


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Edited by riggs on 2/23/2011 at 8:50 AM



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Re: Ethical dilemma
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2011, 09:35:06 AM »
I have not read the previous four pages,

 

Are you a PBA member?

 

If yes and it is against PBA rules then I wouldn't do it.

 

If not then yes I would use it when ever you came across a shot that allows it. You have no advantage. There are many bowling balls not available to everyone for one reason or another. In the end it comes down to the bowler and the adjustment made. Many will have an advantage because often times someone tries to use a ball that is new because its new and not because it is the right ball for the condition.

 


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Re: Ethical dilemma
« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2011, 10:08:52 AM »

I have not read every answer to your post, Riggs, but I personally will use a ball once it has been USBC and PBA approved. Any date past that time is one that the manufacturer has strategically picked for sales. Am I wrong?

Having said that, I do respect your view and think it is admirable. The big difference between my case and yours is that you are a great bowler who is a threat to win a title every time you lace them up. I am content to bowl my leagues, city and state tournaments, and I attend Nationals (my record is less than stellar). On the shots I play on my new release may or may not be an advantage over another ball in my bag.

Whenever Brunswick releases balls to it's staffers they give us the magical date when they were approved by USBC and PBA. I have yet to receive one before that date. Maybe it has something to do with the pecking order with staff contracts, too. The PBA bowlers do get theirs before I get mine.

Riggs, in the end, you have to decide what you are comfortable with, and then stick to it.  Don't let someone else tell you what you believe in. It's you and the mirror.

 

 

 


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Rotoguy300

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Re: Ethical dilemma
« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2011, 03:07:00 PM »
A couple years ago I ran into a problem relating to this very issue. An individual and a couple of his teammates approached me during league one night and literally started screaming at me and making physical threats because they thought I had an unfair advantage at the tournament we had bowled over the prior weekend because I had, as a staff member, access to a Cell Pearl and nobody else did. My team won, I averaged 240 for the first 6 games, but there were no rules against it.
 
I say if there is no rules against it, then it is perfectly fine to use whatever is at your disposal. If there are, of course it would be unethical- it would be illegal.
 
For the record, how awesome does your ball reaction have to be to get this kind of response?!?!?
 
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