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Nicanor

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Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« on: April 07, 2010, 11:33:35 AM »
I'm not saying the Invasion is a total dud across the board, like I did the Buzzbomb, but the Invasion for me and others who tried the ball locally had no luck with this ball.  The Mutant is a much better ball in all areas as compared to the Invasion.

I'm sure many have had great success with the Invasion, but two tries with different drillings as well as others that I've encountered in the pro shop has had no luck except it makes a great but expensive 10 pin ball.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 08:02:16 PM »
I don't know about success on your typical house shot, but the Invasion has been a complete success on any pattern that presents higher volumes than usual. I bowled on old shark for a 10 game sweeper, and the guy I was bowling with had little to no revs yet was creating incredible amounts of room with the Invasion.

Still haven't decided to get one yet, but it's down to the 3.5 or the Invasion.

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 08:36:32 PM »
I ditched mine about 10 games or so into her life.  I had the same level of discontent with my first Virtual Gravity, as well.  However, my second VG with similar drill specs has proven to be a trusted friend.  I''ll look for another Invasion over the next few months or see if there''s a bowler out there that is looking to ditch theirs as quickly as I did mine.
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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2010, 08:41:50 PM »
I have to say it''s got to be about the volume of oil, the layout, or surface prep.

One league a bowler is using an Invasion, I can cover the same boards or more with my LE.  

Another league one bowler uses a Virtual Gravity.  This bowler has such a high rev rate and uses it on light oil to begin with, it''s obvious to everyone but him it''s rolling out.

I don''t think it''s a flop personally even though I haven''t used one it''s more of a niche ball.  

Most THBs are looking for that well rounded ball to give them an edge, not something that sticks them in one corner of the industry.
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Nicanor

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010, 09:05:24 PM »
I'm trying not to say its a flop.  I have two Virtual Gravities and havd a 300 on each ball.  The VG is predictable and strong off the break point.

The Invasion I tried, i tried two different drill patterns and different surface changes.  The ball went sanded with 1000 Ablaron and rolling out to 4000 Ablaron with water on a spinner and the ball would not read the break point and several surface adjustment in between.  No luck.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2010, 09:22:41 PM »
I have had better luck with mine on a fresh house shot more so than a flat heavy oil shot.

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2010, 09:33:47 PM »
I do like my Invasion, however I like my Reign of Fire on fresh.  Once the lanes open a little I go to my Invasion which is extremely smooth and predictable for me.  I know it is not advertised this way but my ROF handles heavy oil and my Invasion is better on medium heavy or less. FYI both pins above my ring finger, both out of box cover, I am a tweener and have roughly 16 mph ball speed. Also, the Mutant Cell is one of my least favorite balls.  My reaction was like I was bowling on ice.
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Nicanor

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2010, 10:48:06 PM »
ddown,

Isn't that amazing that I like the Mutant much more then the Invasion. I think the Reign is tremendous so maybe i should try the Reign of Fire.




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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2010, 11:05:46 PM »
Nicanor, Haven''t you already posted a thread like this??? Here & here & another for starters...  I seem to remember you posting a thread about not having any luck with it & now this...... Beat a dead horse much?  How many more threads do you need to say you don''t like the ball?  Just asking....

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2010, 11:29:02 PM »
I don't want to sound like I am beating a dead horse but the invasion needs oil to roll properly. I bowl on a house shot with volume and the ball rolls great. Cut the volume and the ball rolls like a turd. My ball speed is 17 mph and rev rate 300-325.

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2010, 11:37:55 PM »
as I have said before.......  I took my Invasion upto 4k with polish and the ball is unreal!  I mean its very predicatable and hooks pretty nice on a THS or tournament shot.    


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2010, 05:43:48 AM »
this is the same thing ppl were sayn bout the VG in some ways.... you guys gota know when to throw these STRONG covers.... alot of times, LESS is MORE!!!
but im sure most are rev challenged so.....  LOL

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2010, 06:55:17 AM »
I'm very sorry to hear you had problems with the Invasion for I bowled in a tournament which the pros bowled on with pba oil. I had 838 series which is my best to date and the ball really worked on this oil pattern. So I'm thinking it may not work on a house shot for I have not tried it yet. I love it and hits like a tank. I'm very much pro Storm.

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2010, 09:02:01 AM »
Monsterpike, Am I the only one that has done follow-up posts on bowling balls?

I throw almost all Storm/Roto Grip with the exception of the Mission.  I bring this post up because I am hearing locally that bowlers are having the same problem that I seen with regards to the Invasion.  I know that many are having great succes with the Invasion so I didn''t post that the Invasion was a flop.  I was just asking if others have had the same difficulty that I have had with the Invasion.  

I did post when the Invasion that I didn''t see all the hoopla in the Invasion and asked for recommendations.  I plugged and re-drilled and had different surface adjustments all with limited success.

When I was at the pro shop the other day and I seen a bowler with an Invasion in his hand I asked him what he thought.  He stated also that the ball wouldn''t read the break point and was wondering what could be done to get this hook monster that was suppose to hook more then the VG read the lane.

So it made me curious if others are having the same problem.  I knew there would be a lot of Storm defenders jumping on here stating that we didn''t drill it right or we didn''t know how to bowl or that the ball was used on a lane condition with not enough oil.  Heard it all before, but I''m just seeing if others are not having the success with the Invasion that we had with the VG.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2010, 09:15:01 AM »
I kinda liked it when I had a 16-bagger in team event in Reno.

I'm sure there are plenty of people out there drilling the INVASION far, far too strong and with way too much surface for what they're bowling on.  Then they toss it out in the bone dry outside 10 boards on their house shot and it blows up before it gets to the arrows.

I've thrown prety much every Storm ball released since 1996 and the INVASION is the best ball FOR OIL the company has made, IMO.  It's No. 1 out of the bag for me when there's oil on lanes -- didn't eve bring any VIRTUAL GRAVITYs to Reno.

Where I wouldn't use it is a hooking house shot with bone dry outside 10.
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