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Nicanor

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Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« on: April 07, 2010, 11:33:35 AM »
I'm not saying the Invasion is a total dud across the board, like I did the Buzzbomb, but the Invasion for me and others who tried the ball locally had no luck with this ball.  The Mutant is a much better ball in all areas as compared to the Invasion.

I'm sure many have had great success with the Invasion, but two tries with different drillings as well as others that I've encountered in the pro shop has had no luck except it makes a great but expensive 10 pin ball.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2010, 05:39:58 PM »
You are right about the Reign, but I find the Rapid Fire solid better.  I have both and the Reign is a great ball when you can find a dry break point. Carry is tremendous, but still for whatever reason, the Rapid Fire solid is a ball I use much more then the Reign.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2010, 05:43:53 PM »
Do I dare say it''s the driller?
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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2010, 06:41:15 PM »
OK Gene, its the driller.  Just recieved the second Rapid Fire and second Mission today.  I'll throw them tomorrow and see if I can see the difference.  They fit perfectly.  The thumb slugs are right on.  Now if I can get a Mutant with a 3.5-4 pin and 3.5 oz of top, I'd really be happy.

Thanks for all your help Gene.

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2010, 06:42:07 PM »
Nicanor,have you tried throwing down the middle of the lane where there is the large volume of oil on your THS? In practice,of course.If so,what did the ball do? If not,try it and see how it rolls.
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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2010, 06:51:35 PM »
I agree, there's nothing special about the Reign. Either the RF or the Hyroad were better.



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You are right about the Reign, but I find the Rapid Fire solid better.  I have both and the Reign is a great ball when you can find a dry break point. Carry is tremendous, but still for whatever reason, the Rapid Fire solid is a ball I use much more then the Reign.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2010, 07:04:20 PM »
Cobalt Bomb,  have you thrown the 2nd Dimension yet?

EFFEN 10,

I tried swinging the Invasion through the oil thinking it would read the break point like the Mutant did drilled extremely close.  But no luck.  It continued to the 10 pin.  Polished I had better luck playing down and it, but its not never as consistant as the Rapid Fire and doesn''t carry near as well.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2010, 07:07:46 PM »
Yours, no. I have been busy and have not drilled it yet. Bowling on Viper this weekend, so there is a good chance I will be using Rapid Fire(s) anyway.
LMK what the layout is on the new RF and how it works for you.
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Cobalt Bomb,  have you thrown the 2nd Dimension yet?

EFFEN 10,

I tried swinging the Invasion through the oil thinking it would read the break point like the Mutant did drilled extremely close.  But no luck.  It continued to the 10 pin.  Polished I had better luck playing down and it, but its not never as consistant as the Rapid Fire and doesn''t carry near as well.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2010, 07:12:35 PM »
Nicanor
I think you misunderstood was I meant. I mean throw it STRAIGHT down and at 20.
Don' swing it and see how the ball rolls.
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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2010, 07:25:28 PM »
Ok Effen but what will I be looking for?  What surface should I put on the ball before I try this tets?

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2010, 11:35:52 PM »
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So this morning I bowl a league that has six games.  Bowl 3 games move and bowl 3 more, one person team.  We get 10 minutes of practice.

I bought my Invasion, Rapid Fire and Mutant as well as the Invasion.  On the first pair of lanes I got lined up standing 26 throw the ball 13 out to 10 and was crushing the pocket.  The Invasion surface prep was 500-2000-4000 Rough Buff.  The Invasion never read the break point.  Wask out after wash out (during practice).  Rapid Fire turning strong at the break point and carry wsa tremendous.

Moved to the next pair of lanes where I was watching the first set of bowlers playing down and in 10 out to about 8.  I got lined up with the Mutant and was crushing the pocket.  The Invasion labored to make any move to the pocket.

I think that possibly a bad batch of Invasions got out of Utah because there are way too many good and bad stories.


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Does this not answer your own inquiry? If you are smashing racks with a Rapid Fire and washing out with the Invasion, CLEARLY, there is not enough volume in the heads and/or midlane to get the Invasion to face up properly.
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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2010, 11:38:42 PM »
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Yours, no. I have been busy and have not drilled it yet. Bowling on Viper this weekend, so there is a good chance I will be using Rapid Fire(s) anyway.
LMK what the layout is on the new RF and how it works for you.
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Cobalt Bomb,  have you thrown the 2nd Dimension yet?

EFFEN 10,

I tried swinging the Invasion through the oil thinking it would read the break point like the Mutant did drilled extremely close.  But no luck.  It continued to the 10 pin.  Polished I had better luck playing down and it, but its not never as consistant as the Rapid Fire and doesn''t carry near as well.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2010, 07:07:42 AM »
What Tommy said here -- "the latest Invasion I drilled (pin over ring, MB in thumb, no x hole) has the most board coverage, and is the weakest drilling of the three" -- is something EVERY pro shop person and bowler should take into account!!!!!!

INVASION vs VG -- different looks (VG is a lot more "rollier") but I would give the INVASION 3-5 more boards of hook with equal surfaces and drillings ON OIL. Said that in my initial review and still see it.

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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2010, 09:16:49 AM »
Honestly, its not the first time I've bowled.  I tried the Invasion with several surface changes.  When I compared it to the Rapid Fire I had it at 4000 Abalron and Rough Buff which will put a shine on the ball.  During our six game league I was able to throw the Rapid Fire, Mutant and the Invasion for about 10 minutes.  Its a single person team  so I got to throw a lot of shadow shots.  During shadow the Rapid Fire and the Invasion would not read the break point, the Mutant had a great look initially.  When the lanes broke down I moved in with the Rapid Fire and was killing the pocket.  Just to see what the Invasion would do I played the same line with the Invasion and it still did not read the break point.  That was the first three games.

Moved right one pair and I had noticed that the bowlers were playing around 10 out to 8.  Get two throws on each lane after a move. Threw the Rapid Fire didn't like the reaction. Threw the Mutant and the Mutant was crushing the pocket 10 out to 8.  Threw the Invasion and it seemed to labor and not really turn the corner.

I have two and seen a ton on VGs and the Invasion does not come close to handling the oil (depending on the VGs surface prep)or covering more boards.  The guy I bowled on the first set said he didn't even bring his Invasion because he can't get it to do anything and he used a sanded/dull VG.

I think Storm took a page out of Lane 1's book with the Buzzbomb and over hyped the Invasion.  It might be a great ball, but nobody I bowl with that bought the Invasion is satisied with the ball because it doesn't live up to its expectation.  If they didn't over hype the ball, I prpbaly wouldn't be looking for something thats not there.


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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2010, 09:56:06 AM »
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Re: Did anyone else find the Invasion a dud?
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2010, 09:59:38 AM »
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