Author Topic: difference between low end (Read 5204 times)

2handedrook12 · « **on:** March 16, 2013, 06:10:58 AM »

What's the difference between a tropical breeze pearl, a scream,and a freeze? And, what's the difference between a freeze hybrid compared to a tropical breeze hybrid?

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2013, 08:14:22 AM »

breeze .009 diff, scream .025 diiff, freeze .047 diff.

Least flare to most flare.

If all balls are drilled the same the Freeze should flare the most and hook all the way down the lane if maxed out.

The breeze should allow righties to go the most to the right but have a lot backend.

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS I would not drill a breeze weak!
This is a great video (I own the second ball but haven't drilled). What a difference in drillings but similar lines. Stong drill weak ball, weak drill stronger ball.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEgK35oQxYk
I also like this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN-0L-zPTAI

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2013, 10:50:55 PM »

Lucky,

Not trying to be mean here. But I know what the specs are for those balls. But I also know the coverstock could play a major role. I keep hearing how the tropical breeze has a strong cover just older now. If the cover of one of these is too strong, it will be useless for me.

Xcessive_Evil · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2013, 10:53:17 PM »

If you know the specs...you should know the cover, no?

And you really weren't specific in your question, so the response lefty gave you makes sense.

Rightycomplex · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2013, 04:23:09 AM »

Quote from: 2handedrook12 on March 17, 2013, 10:50:55 PM

Lucky,

Not trying to be mean here. But I know what the specs are for those balls. But I also know the coverstock could play a major role. I keep hearing how the tropical breeze has a strong cover just older now. If the cover of one of these is too strong, it will be useless for me.

Well then, the better question becomes, do you just want a breeze? While cover plays a big role in ball reaction, without a bigger diff in the core, the cover is the only thing making the breeze turn the corner. So surface prep will be key. Other than that, the other two balls you mentioned will be a bit more "fine-tunable" with layout. However, with dry lanes, you are trying to slow the response to friction and the breeze does that for high rev bowlers.

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2013, 05:32:30 AM »

Xcessive,

I have never thrown the scream or freeze, I was hoping someone who has thrown them would tell me how fast the ball transitions off the dry. And I know sometimes balls have an older cover which normally means light oil ball nowadays. Not that I'm insulting anyone or anything. I guess I should have stated that in my original question.

Righty,

This more so what I was looking for. Would the cover be too strong to throw on a dryer shot. And I guess that means no.

Not that I don't understand the numbers. But sometimes, a ball can be make to do one thing, and turn out to be completely different than you expected. Thanks guys.

Xcessive_Evil · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2013, 05:50:46 AM »

I have the kona blue freeze, with what has a 80* 2" 20* layout on it. Very smooth with tame, controlling arc. I need to be on a very short, med-low volume pattern in order to really get it to face up properly. IMHO the diff and flare is so low, it's going to be quite difficult to get it to roll stronger than anything in your current lineup (obviously besides your spare ball)

Rightycomplex · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2013, 09:02:59 AM »

Quote from: 2handedrook12 on March 18, 2013, 05:32:30 AM

Xcessive,

I have never thrown the scream or freeze, I was hoping someone who has thrown them would tell me how fast the ball transitions off the dry. And I know sometimes balls have an older cover which normally means light oil ball nowadays. Not that I'm insulting anyone or anything. I guess I should have stated that in my original question.

Righty,

This more so what I was looking for. Would the cover be too strong to throw on a dryer shot. And I guess that means no.

Not that I don't understand the numbers. But sometimes, a ball can be make to do one thing, and turn out to be completely different than you expected. Thanks guys.

Either way, a good driller can give you what you want for the dry. Someone with a high rev rate such as yourself, I would select a hybrid breeze to blend the reaction. Then depending on your stats, I would probably go pin at 4" and put the cg in the palm to create flare and get the ball started without a hole.
High rev rate and dry pattern equals quick transition, so we want to slow down and smooth out the reaction. The Scream and Freeze are good choices for med/dry, or can be driller for the dry. The Breeze is just more suited for dry for those with high rev rate or slower speeds.

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2013, 09:52:50 AM »

Better yet....................What do you want the ball to do?

?? Lets make this simple for a change.

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2013, 04:22:53 PM »

I just want a ball that will be controllable. I don't want a special roll or anything of that nature. I just want a ball that will allow me to play straight up the track on a light oil pattern, and a ball that won't hook at my feet on the dry. I haven't been able to do this since my Columbia jazz cracked on me right before a huge tournament.

cheech · « **Reply #10 on:** March 18, 2013, 04:42:04 PM »

id go breeze no more that 4" pin to PAP pin down

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 18, 2013, 04:49:25 PM »

Just curious,

What would a 2 inch pin to pap with pin up do?

2handedrook12 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2013, 05:26:30 PM »

Or should I get one drilled to go as long as possible? Because if I am playing dead in the dry, and ball would move. And this would allow the ball to store up a lot of energy. Because of the surface my taboo spare is at(about 500), it begins its move before my frantic, hy-road, and critical theory, with a rounded shape. I don't have a ball that goes long enough for me to play straighter. I have worked on this part of my game extensively, but I don't have a ball that will allow me to do this unless I am playing on a heavy volume.

Rightycomplex · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2013, 08:56:03 PM »

Quote from: 2handedrook12 on March 18, 2013, 04:49:25 PM

Just curious,

What would a 2 inch pin to pap with pin up do?

Depending on the VAL make the ball respond quickly to friction and have a smooth roll. IMO, go with a 4-4.5" pin to give you some punch on the back, and a slower response to friction.

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