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Title: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: tvphotog on April 17, 2009, 03:46:08 AM
What does anyone know about these balls soon to be coming out from Storm?
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: hammermike2000 on April 17, 2009, 11:50:50 AM
I drilled them at one of the Open House things storm had here in Charlotte, the rep said it's basically got the same core as the Street Rods I believe (light bulb with the bottom piece), but they've got the RSX covers on them.  The Furious (the sanded one) hooks out the house.  Stronger than the Virtual when I threw it, and a decent bit earlier. The Fast (pearlized), rolls really well and has a fairly strong backend but nothing uncontrollable.  Can't beat these 2 for the price.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: tvphotog on April 17, 2009, 11:54:59 AM
I saw the table last night in Mooresville, but they were done after we finshed bowling. I never had a chance to throw them or chat with Shawn.
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Edited on 4/17/2009 11:55 AM
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: jbuzz31 on April 17, 2009, 11:57:22 AM
quote:
I drilled them at one of the Open House things storm had here in Charlotte, the rep said it's basically got the same core as the Street Rods I believe (light bulb with the bottom piece), but they've got the RSX covers on them.  





You mean the R2S or R2X?    I would think R2S is more likely  because the new covers always seem to only be used on the master and premier line for a couple years.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: tomgriffin on April 17, 2009, 12:18:19 PM
Anyone have a release date?
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Steve Richter on April 17, 2009, 01:01:14 PM
It's R2S, not R2X
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Cobb on April 17, 2009, 01:44:01 PM
anyone have pics?
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: hammermike2000 on April 17, 2009, 03:54:02 PM
I was told RSX by the Rep, he told me they put the strongest cover they have on them.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: nocarey on April 17, 2009, 05:05:56 PM
don't forget these. . .Virtual Energy 6/25, Reign 8/20, Natural 6/25.

Fast, Furious and two Tropicals scheduled for 5/28 release according to a flyer I've seen
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: tuckinfenpins on April 17, 2009, 08:08:42 PM
any pics or info on any of the new releases coming
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: pegleg42090 on April 17, 2009, 08:17:06 PM
Go to buddies, they have pics up
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Cobb on April 17, 2009, 08:48:33 PM
is the virtual energy going to be stronger or weaker than the VG?
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: pate08 on April 17, 2009, 09:03:06 PM
https://www.buddiesproshop.com/products/1/Bowling_Balls.htm

The virtual energy looks like a rival.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: jbuzz31 on April 17, 2009, 09:22:38 PM
Wow...........with that many new balls i guess The Shift, Attitude, Both T Roads and both rapid fires are getting the axe............ but the ball names and logos dont seem like the stuff storm normally does....hmmmm
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Monster Pike on April 17, 2009, 09:28:26 PM
quote:
https://www.buddiesproshop.com/products/1/Bowling_Balls.htm

The virtual energy looks like a rival.
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Thanks for that link Pate.  The "Reign" looks pretty sweet!!  Which line will that be in?  Anybody know??
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: bowler0821 on April 18, 2009, 01:49:52 AM
Ya I want to know any information on these new balls as soon as I can. I am very excited.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: VIXIV on April 18, 2009, 02:00:26 AM
Does Storm/Roto's Open House work like Ebonite's Demo Days? I just checked the schedule on their site and they'll be in my area in May.
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: mmcfarland300 on April 18, 2009, 08:31:25 AM
Reign would be better fit in the Roto brand imo.
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: ecc0_9879 on April 18, 2009, 02:30:13 PM
what price range are they gonna be
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: jbuzz31 on April 18, 2009, 06:34:23 PM
Man all these new balls storm is comin out with?  Don't  Nobody tell Chrispy.......
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: jbuzz31 on April 18, 2009, 10:12:25 PM
quote:
I was told RSX by the Rep, he told me they put the strongest cover they have on them.
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Wrong

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/6853/Storm_Fast_Bowling_Ball_-_May_28th.htm

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/6854/Storm_Furious_Bowling_Ball_-_May_28th.htm
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Bigmike on April 18, 2009, 11:05:46 PM
quote:
don't forget these. . .Virtual Energy 6/25, Reign 8/20, Natural 6/25.

Fast, Furious and two Tropicals scheduled for 5/28 release according to a flyer I've seen


Natural is a urethane with the Street Rod block. Should be a great arsenal filler.

Storm has to have one of the most well rounded line ups on the market.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Raven829 on April 18, 2009, 11:43:31 PM
Roto also has a new spare ball coming out called the Crown.  This thing is the best looking spare ball I've seen since the clear Gargoyle.  

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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: jbuzz31 on April 19, 2009, 05:59:37 PM
quote:


Natural is a urethane with the Street Rod block.



Just checked buddies and the listings for all three balls say Turbine2 for the core, whereas the OG street rods say just turbine,  so storm has tweaked the densities i presume but we dont know what kinda core numbers yet.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Mr Straight Ball on April 20, 2009, 09:09:23 AM
To clear up what lines are being affected and so that we can estimate the price points, here's a little info.

Premier - Virtual Energy
Thunder - Reign
Hot Line - Fast, Furious, Natural

Not sure why Buddies says Turbine 2, I read the core was going to be the Turbine on the Hot Line balls.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: mainzer on April 20, 2009, 10:49:47 AM
I actaully might pick the Urethane one up it would be nice to have. If VBP doesn't get Urethane Ogre out first
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Lillen on April 20, 2009, 10:54:38 AM
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Roto also has a new spare ball coming out called the Crown.  This thing is the best looking spare ball I've seen since the clear Gargoyle.  

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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom-Chris on April 20, 2009, 03:35:42 PM
the fast and furious will have the turbine core. the #2 next to the tm was a typo and has been fixed.

Reign will be the same price point as the Hy-Road. More information on this ball coming soon.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: leftyinsnellville on April 20, 2009, 04:18:59 PM
The Furious looks like the Jolt Particle...kinda wimpy.  The Fast looks great, almost like the Break Pearl.  Storm should have went with Black and Chrome on the Furious.
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on April 21, 2009, 12:44:31 PM
The urethane ogre is gonna be a pearlized urethane while the natural is going to be a solid urethane...  So there is a difference
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I actaully might pick the Urethane one up it would be nice to have. If VBP doesn't get Urethane Ogre out first
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: jbuzz31 on April 21, 2009, 12:54:49 PM
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The urethane ogre is gonna be a pearlized urethane  



 Really , thats the first ive heard .
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on April 21, 2009, 01:04:07 PM
quote:
quote:
The urethane ogre is gonna be a pearlized urethane  



 Really , thats the first ive heard .
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Yeah it's been posted in the visionary section. Reaction close to the pink hammer but better colors
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: J_Mac on April 21, 2009, 01:07:50 PM
From what I have read on the Urethane Ogre it's slated to be a solid urethane along the lines of the Pink Hammer.

The Natural will probably be a more porous urethane and handle more oil.
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on April 21, 2009, 01:20:05 PM
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From what I have read on the Urethane Ogre it's slated to be a solid urethane along the lines of the Pink Hammer.

The Natural will probably be a more porous urethane and handle more oil.


Well hmmm I maybe wrong. I know it's suppose to have a similar reaction to a pink hammer but I thought it was a pearlized urethane. It maybe like the glowing amulet type cover, without the glow...
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Scott_in_PA on April 22, 2009, 11:52:08 AM
To me, the Furious is almost a re-release of the Special Agent, and that's a good thing...

-Scott.
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: six pack on April 22, 2009, 12:40:39 PM
I'm thinking I might pick up all three and have a nice little arsenal,looks like it would make a good set up for heavy,med and light oil.I would drill them all the same too.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: northface28 on April 22, 2009, 05:47:36 PM
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To me, the Furious is almost a re-release of the Special Agent, and that's a good thing...

-Scott.


Not even close, huge difference between the Turbine Core and EMC core.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: actsbowler21 on April 22, 2009, 06:01:09 PM
quote:
quote:
To me, the Furious is almost a re-release of the Special Agent, and that's a good thing...

-Scott.


Not even close, huge difference between the Turbine Core and EMC core.
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Correct,

The Furious is going to be an update to the Street Rod Solid, as the Fast is an update to the Street Rod Pearl..Not anywhere in the same strength region (core or cover) as the Special Agent..
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: jbuzz31 on April 23, 2009, 04:54:08 PM
the fast and furious are up on storms website
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: StoneCold1030 on April 23, 2009, 05:16:12 PM
The 2 new Tropical Storms are coming out May 28th. The other 4 are coming out June 25th. the Fast & Furious are nothing more than the Street Rod and Street Rod Pearl with new and stronger coverstocks!
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Steve Richter on April 23, 2009, 05:44:03 PM
From Storm's web site:

With today's changing oils and conditioners, we felt it was time to upgrade the tire that touches the lane

Same thing they did between the Fired Up line and the Rapid Fire line.  With coverstock upgrades those balls were pretty dramatically different.  I don't think you're going to see just the same old Street Rod motion out of this one - especially the solid.

Check them out for yourself at the consumer Open Houses that are listed here:

http://publicftp.stormbowling.com/Consumer_2009.pdf


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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: VideoBallReviews on April 23, 2009, 05:59:02 PM
I should have mine soon guys...videos will follow soon after, if all goes to plan im going to drill one of each and include some surface changes in this video.

Can't wait to see how these roll!
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: pro shop guy on April 23, 2009, 06:30:30 PM
look alot like the AZO balls.....not cores...just covers
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Jay on April 24, 2009, 02:43:16 AM
I'm confused about how the Furious wouldn't be similar to the Special Agent.  Same cover, but different core, so wouldn't overall strength be similar but with slightly different shapes?  Of course, it's possible some modifications could have been made to alter it a bit.

Not quite sure how I feel about the Fast and Furious, as long as the T-Roads are around it seems kind of pointless.  Although, probably a little weaker and at a price point you really can't beat for the performance.  Can't wait to see them in action.

And I wonder what the Reign is going to be like.
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Dan Belcher on April 24, 2009, 07:08:22 AM
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I'm confused about how the Furious wouldn't be similar to the Special Agent.  Same cover, but different core, so wouldn't overall strength be similar but with slightly different shapes?  Of course, it's possible some modifications could have been made to alter it a bit.

Not quite sure how I feel about the Fast and Furious, as long as the T-Roads are around it seems kind of pointless.  Although, probably a little weaker and at a price point you really can't beat for the performance.  Can't wait to see them in action.
The Special Agent had a much lower RG, plus a higher differential.  Those two factors alone, ignoring just the natural rolling tendancies of different cores, will greatly alter ball reaction.  The T-Road Solid and Special Agent both have the R2S solid coverstock, but have very different reactions, even when at the same grit level, for example.
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: AussieBowler on May 02, 2009, 08:10:02 AM
Drilled up the Furious today, very similar to my street rod solid. Has more off the corner and always wanted to finish no matter how deep I got with excellent carry.

Drilled pin at 4-1/2 and MB at 5-1/4 (marked on the ball by myself)
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: JessN16 on May 03, 2009, 05:33:00 PM
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Reign would be better fit in the Roto brand imo.


Unless you stick "Reign" before "Storm" and get "Reign Storm (rainstorm)" out of the play on words. Nice touch, I think.

Jess
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: SVstar34 on May 03, 2009, 05:37:45 PM
quote:
I'm confused about how the Furious wouldn't be similar to the Special Agent.  Same cover, but different core, so wouldn't overall strength be similar but with slightly different shapes?  Of course, it's possible some modifications could have been made to alter it a bit.

Not quite sure how I feel about the Fast and Furious, as long as the T-Roads are around it seems kind of pointless.  Although, probably a little weaker and at a price point you really can't beat for the performance.  Can't wait to see them in action.



Core has more influence on reaction than cover, the Turbine core is significantly weaker than the EMC core.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: J_Mac on May 03, 2009, 06:01:19 PM
quote:


Core has more influence on reaction than cover, the Turbine core is significantly weaker than the EMC core.




Since when?
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Joe Jr on May 03, 2009, 06:39:19 PM
quote:
quote:
I'm confused about how the Furious wouldn't be similar to the Special Agent.  Same cover, but different core, so wouldn't overall strength be similar but with slightly different shapes?  Of course, it's possible some modifications could have been made to alter it a bit.

Not quite sure how I feel about the Fast and Furious, as long as the T-Roads are around it seems kind of pointless.  Although, probably a little weaker and at a price point you really can't beat for the performance.  Can't wait to see them in action.



Core has more influence on reaction than cover, the Turbine core is significantly weaker than the EMC core.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: gbrown on May 03, 2009, 06:40:57 PM
These balls will be nice add on to storm.  Im going to get one just dont know which yet.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: gbrown on May 03, 2009, 06:57:05 PM
when is the reign coming out?
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: bowler0821 on May 04, 2009, 12:11:40 AM
Regin is set for Aug 28 I believe. ALso I belive that the r2s cover will be a better match up for the turbine core. I have seen a few street rod pearls that have looked good, didnt care for mine alot I had mine drilled weak with a label drilling. Let me tell you that mine was very early so it is really hard for me to believe that the turbine core is that weak. I think the street rod solid did match up better and more evenly with the tubrine core. The way that I look at it and I could be wrong just my thoughts. The reactor cover is prob, if not the cleanest cover that storm has made to date. Just look at all of the other balls with that cover that get through the heads so clean. I just think that the turbine core was a bit stronger then maybe thought so it was a bit harder to have the street rods match up to maybe a bigger range of players. I feel that with the stronger cover it will be more of a even blend between the turbine core and r2s cover. I am just excited to get mine when I have the extra money lol. What are other peoples thoughts, am very interested to see how others thing of the matter.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: bigearv14 on May 04, 2009, 02:17:22 AM
From what I've heard, somewhere around 60%-70% of ball reaction is in the cover, depending on how "dynamic" the core is in comparison to the core.

Theory 1 (I'm not sure):

For example, the Reactor is on the Domination and the T-Struck Pearl. The core is stronger in the Domination, so the same surface change would effect the overall reaction more in the reaction of the T-Struck Pearl.

OR

Theory 2:

Theory 1 blows and the cover is the bigger piece in the reaction puzzle no matter what core is in the ball.

Either way, the core has NEVER been more of a factor than the cover...you know, because it touches the lane and all.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: chipmunkbowler on May 04, 2009, 11:08:42 AM
well i know that the furious will be a good benchmark ball by just looking at the information available and the fast will be good for if your furious is leaving big fours etc.
Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: bowler0821 on May 04, 2009, 03:29:26 PM
bigearv14 Thoes are both very good theories and I can see what you are saying.

I have a new theory

The fast and furious will be better then the pearl and solid street rod

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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: bigearv14 on May 06, 2009, 04:22:12 AM
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bigearv14 Thoes are both very good theories and I can see what you are saying.

I have a new theory

The fast and furious will be better then the pearl and solid street rod



Thanks!

...and I hope you're right...the SRP was amazing!!! If the Fast is better...HIGH FIVE!!!
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: Steve Richter on May 06, 2009, 06:29:50 AM
Cover has FAR more influence on ball motion than cover.  The USBC proved that in their Ball Motion Study found here http://www.bowl.com/Downloads/pdf/Specs/08ballmotionstudy.pdf

In there you'll find the top 5 "influencers" are all cover related"

1) Surface Roughness (a)
2) On-Lane COF
3) Surface Roughness (s)
4) Dry Lane COF
5) Oil Absorption

6) RG
7) Total Diff
8) Spin Time

Despite what marketing buzz any company wants to put on their piece, science proved that COVER dominates ball performance.
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Title: Re: Fast and Furious balls from Storm
Post by: bowler0821 on May 06, 2009, 12:24:52 PM
We shall see what happens. I am going to drill both of them and I cannot wait
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