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Apples and Oranges?
« on: February 26, 2012, 07:59:48 AM »
Hey guys, at the risk of comparing apples and oranges, I am trying to deterimine what I can expect out of a Prodigy. The ball I am wanting a comparison to is my Domination. Just wondering, if i lay them both out the same way and throw them on the same shot, which one is going to be the stronger ball? The Domination is a beast, even on a fresh shot with my 18-19 mph ball speed. Looking for something stronger, but with the same look. Would rather just have an NIB Domination. lol. Anyway, just trying to get an idea of what to expect. The Domination has a 3.5" pin and is drilled leverage 3 3/8, with the pin to the right of and about a 1/2 inch higher than the ring finger. If I layout a Prodigy this way, what can  I expect? Oh, my revs are probably 300-350 and I prefer to play10 or 12 out to about 4 or 5 as opposed to moving way inside.Thanks for the help.


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Re: Apples and Oranges?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 05:33:24 PM »
47 views and no replies. Gee, thanks guys.


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Re: Apples and Oranges?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 06:02:47 PM »
 The Prodigy, for me, was very smooth and very good going up the lane. Perfect for playing the 10-5 shot you described. The Domination was a skid/flip beast and a totally diff look compared to a Prodigy. Keep in mind, I use longer pins  (5-5 1/2) to conserve energy and hit when going left to right.

In closing, the Prodigy should not be a good replacement for a Domination.

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Re: Apples and Oranges?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 06:35:03 PM »
Thanks for that advice. THat leads me to believe that the Anarchy or Nano Pearl would be the better option.


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Re: Apples and Oranges?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 06:40:40 PM »

 I have had both the domination and the prodigy...and the prodigy was super smooth for me off the spot, and ofcourse my domination flipped very hard off the spot for me. 

 

for what you are explaining that you need, I personally recommend a critical theory...the critical gives me that motion.



stormdamage wrote on 2/26/2012 7:35 PM:
Thanks for that advice. THat leads me to believe that the Anarchy or Nano Pearl would be the better option.



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Re: Apples and Oranges?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 06:50:11 PM »
Im going to assume that, like myself, most people read your title "apples and oranges" and read to find out what it was about....when seeing the comparison most people don't own every ball known to man, and didn't own both balls you named...so their response would be invalid...like mine.

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Re: Apples and Oranges?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 07:02:55 PM »
Thanks guys. Point taken Russell. lol. Everyone says the Domination is skid/flip but for me it seems to be a mild skid/flip at best. I assume this is do to my average rev rate and high ball speed. The ball is strong but actually seems to be more of an arcing ball on a fresh shot. Only on lighter/shorter patterns does it become skid/flippy. Then again, maybe I have absolutely no clue what I'm talking about. lol.


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Re: Apples and Oranges?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 08:12:13 PM »
Assuming the Domination of which you speak is the Paradigm Domination ....
 
Beyond the fact that few people have a Domination these days, you're dealing with 2 problems comparing these balls and, on the plus side, two similarities.
 
Similarities: Both are very low RG and high Differentials.
 
Problems:
1. The coverstocks are at opposite end of the spectrum. Prodigy has a fairly new and very strong cover, the R2X, while the Paradigm has what is currently Storm;s weakest resin shell, Reactor pearl. It is only used The Tropical Breeze, their weakest resin ball, & the Tropical Heat, their 2nd weakest resin ball.
 
2. The Prodigy is a symmetric core with a dull coverstock together which make it smooth and even, reacting in general, even if it handles a good deal of oil. The Domination is a very strong asymmetric core, which gives it the potential to be extremely flippy and for most people it was. The polished surface + the Asymmetric core made it extremely flippy.
 
+ The Domination is not a ball you can lay out  "leverage". The strong Mass Bias needs to be taken into account and has a very serious effect on the ball's reaction. It can smooth out the reaction of make it super-flippy or anything in-between.  The symmetric core of the Prodigy is not as flexible but you do have a good deal of possibilities when you take into the consideration the power of a properly placed weight hole to help produce the reaction you might want.
 
Logically, the Prodigy can be used a step above the Domination when there is more oil that the Domination can't handle, even if it is fine for house shots.  I assume, that with your high ball speed, the house shots on which you use this ball must be on the lighter oil side (Unless you sanded the surface).
 
stormdamage wrote on 2/26/2012 8:02 PM:
Thanks guys. Point taken Russell. lol. Everyone says the Domination is skid/flip but for me it seems to be a mild skid/flip at best. I assume this is do to my average rev rate and high ball speed. The ball is strong but actually seems to be more of an arcing ball on a fresh shot. Only on lighter/shorter patterns does it become skid/flippy. Then again, maybe I have absolutely no clue what I'm talking about. lol.


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