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Title: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: Timmyb01 on May 16, 2013, 11:08:40 PM
Just had the lights out drilled up to compliment my IQ pearl. I must say this ball is a lot more ball than the price tag shows. Mine has a 3 inch pin and is drilled pin over ring with the cg kicked out ever so slightly. The ball goes long and turns the corner finishing extremely hard through the deck. What are others thoughts on this release thus far?
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: billdozer on May 16, 2013, 11:25:36 PM
I wasnt sure if I wanted to try this one or the frantic being that I never punched one up (#1) and I LOVE my crossroad and wrecker...

I love utah hybrids!...

Can anyone compare...
The lights out to the frantic, wrecker, and crossroad?
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: DP3 on May 17, 2013, 02:04:53 AM
I talked to a staffer friend today and he said this thing will be the ball of the year at the mid price range. He said it's the same shape as his HyRoad and doesn't start up as early as the HyRoad when they transition.  He threw 11 games on a THS and never lost angle when he moved in.  He had two 299s and a 277 with the back 11 in those 11 games.

IMO any all black release will look like a winner on the lanes :-)
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: JamminJD on May 17, 2013, 10:49:44 AM
I talked to a staffer friend today and he said this thing will be the ball of the year at the mid price range. He said it's the same shape as his HyRoad and doesn't start up as early as the HyRoad when they transition.  He threw 11 games on a THS and never lost angle when he moved in.  He had two 299s and a 277 with the back 11 in those 11 games.

IMO any all black release will look like a winner on the lanes :-)


Total agree about the ball color, I just got mine drilled and have not thrown it yet.
I will say this its a neat looking ball very strong, I think the colors are great.
Interesting in that the pin is black, hard to see it, but I like it! 8)


Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: Impending Doom on May 17, 2013, 10:53:04 AM
Come on... the Black Out couldn't have any other color pin!

Ball looks tough. If I was going to put something together from Storm, this ball would be in the mix for sure.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: Rightycomplex on May 17, 2013, 11:38:30 AM
I talked to a staffer friend today and he said this thing will be the ball of the year at the mid price range. He said it's the same shape as his HyRoad and doesn't start up as early as the HyRoad when they transition.  He threw 11 games on a THS and never lost angle when he moved in.  He had two 299s and a 277 with the back 11 in those 11 games.

IMO any all black release will look like a winner on the lanes :-)

+1 on black releases. Thats why I got 2 coming.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: storm making it rain on May 17, 2013, 12:15:50 PM
I wasnt sure if I wanted to try this one or the frantic being that I never punched one up (#1) and I LOVE my crossroad and wrecker...

I love utah hybrids!...

Can anyone compare...
The lights out to the frantic, wrecker, and crossroad?

I have or have had all of the balls you listed.  Strength wide they go Crossroad, Frantic, Wrecker, Lights Out. 

I currently have the Crossroad & Lights Out and they compliment each other great (similar layouts).  The Lights Out for me isn't all that flippy on the back, but clears the fronts great and continues nicely as well.  The Crossroad is my benchmark ball right now and the Lights Out is easily 4 weaker.

I'd put the Wrecker as about the same reaction wise to the Lights Out, except the Wrecker for me was much more angular.  The Frantic was more ball than the Wrecker and Lights Out but less than the Crossroad, unless the surface was changed as that ball was a beast with the cover knocked off of it.

I'm drilling a Freakin Frantic this weekend and i'm assuming it will be more than the Lights Out and maybe the same overall strength as the Crossroad but with a different shape to it (assuming the layouts are similar)
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: dougb on May 17, 2013, 12:38:28 PM
Yes, if I went back to Storm this would be first on my list.  Looks to be a great benchmark ball.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: LuckyLefty on May 17, 2013, 12:59:45 PM
Isn't it just a Tropical Heat Pearl Hybrid with a new name?

Regards,

Lights out lefty?  ooops Lucky lefty
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: storm making it rain on May 17, 2013, 01:13:42 PM
Isn't it just a Tropical Heat Pearl Hybrid with a new name?

Regards,

Lights out lefty?  ooops Lucky lefty

Tropical Heat Hybrid used the Reactor Cover while the Lights Out uses the R2S cover.  Both have the same core (Turbine) and different finishes, 1500 grit polished for Lights Out and 4000 abralon for the Heat.  With the surface difference the Heat will handle a bit more volume and for me has a smoother transition on the back part of the lane.  For the money the Heat hybrid is awesome on a THS
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: northface28 on May 17, 2013, 02:38:30 PM
Ball is ok, very long. Almost too long. To those looking at this ball to be a "arsenal anchor" strong pins and surface is a must.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: jfvstorm5 on May 18, 2013, 01:06:57 AM
id agree 100% with, "storm making is rain." i was a huge fan of the fast and furious, and think the turbine core is one of the most versatile cores ever. this cover adds to that and gives a very similar look to what i get out of my hyroad, just overall less hook and cleaner in the front.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: Artimust on May 20, 2013, 12:43:57 AM
I dunno, just got mine and threw only one game with it during practice on a burnt up shot. It was way too strong for this condition. I was actually throwing my Grenade and it was hooking pretty nice. Then just got the Lights Out straight off the drill press and it was hooking a lot. I'll try it again tomorrow on hopefully better conditions for it.
Btw, I know you guys saying black but mine is dark blue with a touch of what looks like silver. Very nice.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: JamminJD on May 20, 2013, 06:23:48 AM
I dunno, just got mine and threw only one game with it during practice on a burnt up shot. It was way too strong for this condition. I was actually throwing my Grenade and it was hooking pretty nice. Then just got the Lights Out straight off the drill press and it was hooking a lot. I'll try it again tomorrow on hopefully better conditions for it.
Btw, I know you guys saying black but mine is dark blue with a touch of what looks like silver. Very nice.
I dunno, just got mine and threw only one game with it during practice on a burnt up shot. It was way too strong for this condition. I was actually throwing my Grenade and it was hooking pretty nice. Then just got the Lights Out straight off the drill press and it was hooking a lot. I'll try it again tomorrow on hopefully better conditions for it.
Btw, I know you guys saying black but mine is dark blue with a touch of what looks like silver. Very nice.

Yeah you are right, but from a distance it looks black.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: Artimust on June 14, 2013, 08:07:09 PM
Had my Lights Out for almost a month now and I absolutely love this ball! I have it drilled strong and it is very versatile.  Been using it at my sport shot league on old wood lanes and on synthetics at a couple of different houses where i practice, and so far, as long as there is some oil, this ball just works.  Gets through the heads very nicely and a nice strong arc at the break.  Hits hard too. 
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: Bigmike on June 18, 2013, 04:11:25 PM
Popped holes in one a couple of weeks back. I haven't had enough lane time to get a big feel for it yet in relation to my other stuff. Our sport shot pattern was 33' and obviously this was way to much ball for that. I did get to throw it some since it was laid out 135* and we needed to find the bowtie for the weight hole to be placed. It looked GREAT on the fresh house shot. I could roll up the back straigher up the lane or move in and slow circle it. Based on that, it looks like it could be very versatile for medium to lighter medium patterns. I am already thinking of a second one to compliment the first one.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: Djarum on June 19, 2013, 10:07:21 AM
Is this in any way a benchmark ball? Storm says medium/dry but the cover says it could handle more oil.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 19, 2013, 10:52:33 AM
Is this in any way a benchmark ball? Storm says medium/dry but the cover says it could handle more oil.

Typically balls that are pretty angular on the backend are not going to be considered benchmark.  However, this ball could fit that with the polish taken off and a layout that is going to tame down that backend motion.  But why would someone do that when there are plenty of balls out there that already fit that benchmark type mold?  If we look to Storm for a benchmark type ball, maybe the IQ Tour Solid or Tropical Heat Hybrid would fit that way better than the Lights Out.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: 2handedrook12 on June 19, 2013, 02:59:05 PM
See i knew this would happen.
Same core stronger cover =flippy
I was hoping for a smoother move off the breakpoint.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: northface28 on June 21, 2013, 10:34:29 PM
2handed,

Youre right, the core isn't big enough to slow the ball down. Hence, the flip.
Title: Re: First thoughts of lights out
Post by: 2handedrook12 on June 23, 2013, 12:00:49 PM
I thought it would have been nicer to keep the tropical heat and use the camber core to yield a different reaction shape from the th. But i guess i can find a similar reaction from a tropical breeze hybrid. After rally, cover and surface are the two most effective factors when dictating ball reaction. But it is nice to see a ball with the cover strength of a hyroad on a true medium oil pattern.