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charlest

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Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« on: December 04, 2003, 05:44:07 AM »
I just noticed the SC's very low RG, 2.460, and medium high RG differential, .050, both of which are right in the V2's neighborhood.

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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2003, 09:14:55 PM »
sure is !  Same as the RotoGrip Rush, low rg, medium , med-high diff..strong , predictable, continuous......there seems to be a little trend of "less" snappiness lately,...
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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2003, 10:15:35 PM »
I have a super charge drilled 4 X 3 weight hole down. Pin distance 2.5" from cg. Pin underneath and to the right of ring finger.Starting top weight 3.5 oz. I am testing this ball now with box finish. It is a tad cleaner through the front than the v2 and has the same backend reaction as a v2. Over the past 3 years I have drilled 7 v2's so I am very familiar with the roll of a v2. This ball is the closet ball I have thrown to a v2 and I believe the super charge is better(JMO). Will do a review later. Will test this ball polished too.



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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2003, 12:24:56 AM »
The Tour Power was supposed to be a ball to compete with the V2 but the tour power was still snappy with polish and was never as good, sorry to say. and nothing is smoother than a polished V2
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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2003, 05:23:16 PM »
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sure is !  Same as the RotoGrip Rush, low rg, medium , med-high diff..strong , predictable, continuous......there seems to be a little trend of "less" snappiness lately,...
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Not quite, I think, Jeff.
The Rush, according to the BTM review, gets quite a bit more natural length and has quite bit more flip in the backend than either of the balls I suggested. Some people here who have thrown the Rush seem to indicate this also. Now, I can't guarantee that, but it seem to be developing that way.

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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2003, 05:35:00 PM »
BrianN and tburky,

Nice posts, thanks.

I wasn't trying to lead anywhere, except in so far as I specified in my query. I am not that subtle. Until recently I've never had a need for a medium-heavy oil ball and the V2, as of the last year or so, has been absent except an a side note.  Ebonite balls are generally not my cup of tea, again, except for one very nice, highly polished Tornado Seafoam solid. So I do not think of them.

Other balls intended for medium-heavy oil have stood out in print or reviews or looks or whetever than the V2 Sanded has, to my eyes. So I have several of them, including the wonderful ELement (Thanks, Mr. Marlowe!).

The V2, the Super Charge and the Deuce seem to be medium-heavy oil balls. The Deuce, due to its core is more ... shall we say, dynamic (read: flippy), where the V2 is more even and controlled, generally speaking. I was wondering if the SC will be more like the V2, both in their box surface.
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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2003, 08:15:53 PM »
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sure is !  Same as the RotoGrip Rush, low rg, medium , med-high diff..strong , predictable, continuous......there seems to be a little trend of "less" snappiness lately,...
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Not quite, I think, Jeff.
The Rush, according to the BTM review, gets quite a bit more natural length and has quite bit more flip in the backend than either of the balls I suggested. Some people here who have thrown the Rush seem to indicate this also. Now, I can't guarantee that, but it seem to be developing that way.


This may be true as well, but note, I said "less snappines".......no where near standard Roto stuff and the "snap" scale.......
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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2003, 10:46:02 PM »
I have thrown both balls side by side...same layouts. That is how I made the comparison that I posted.
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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2003, 08:52:08 AM »
BrianN wrote:
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>>> the Hot Wire is storms closest matchup to the V2  <<<

I'd disagree with that one too.


I disagree also.

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I have found a number of conditions where V2 will turn the corner and Hot Wire will not. It is a unique look, but I am having trouble finding a place for Hot Wire in my bag.


I think the problem with this combo is that the Hot Wire will handle some house oil, but just a notch below what the V2 sanded will handle. It's as if they were for 2 different house shots. Both are 1000 grit (I believe), but the V2 has a much lower RG and higher RG differential for more flare, thus allowing it to handle more oil. When the V2's house condition breaks down, one normally has to go 2 notches down in ball strength to adapt; the Hot Wire, while being a very good ball, is only one notch down.

What I did to my Hot Wire, put the pin over the bridge and polish it to a nice shine, would enable it to be a go-to ball from the V2. In fact I had to polish it to get it to react.
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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2003, 09:33:58 PM »
CharlesT, yes the super Charge is the answer to the V2, I beleive they tried this a year and a half ago with the tour power but the I don't think the
accu-tred cover is not as strong the Trimax. I have both  and the Super charge is a little stronger the overall even though the V2 as a stonger layout. I notice the SC is more angular at the break.
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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2003, 10:33:48 PM »
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CharlesT, yes the super Charge is the answer to the V2, I beleive they tried this a year and a half ago with the tour power but the I don't think the
accu-tred cover is not as strong the Trimax.


Almost as important was that the Tour Power's core had very little flare. a Big factor in the difference.

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I have both  and the Super charge is a little stronger the overall even though the V2 as a stonger layout. I notice the SC is more angular at the break.
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But then it's not a real replacement for the V2, just a ball for its neighborhood. I see the V2's lack of angularity, its evenness, a sense of control as a positive. It hits very hard for a control ball. (Of course, you get less control, if you polish it.) Make no mistake, I think the SC has a ton of potential and great specs. I hope to see it in action soon.


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Re: Is the Super Charge Storm's answer to Ebonite's V2 sanded?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2003, 08:43:45 AM »
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>>> It's as if they were for 2 different house shots <<<

Insightful comment.


I just see the Hot Wire as for a degree less oil than the V2 Sanded, because the V2"s core is that much stronger in terms of lower RG and greater RG differential.
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