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spartanplayaAA

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shift vs. rapid fire
« on: April 27, 2008, 02:54:48 AM »
how does the shift and the rapid compare as far as strength and reaction shape?  I would think the shift would be a stronger overall ball with the particle pearl coverstock and the slightly lower RG, but have heard otherwise from some.  Anyone have both of them?

 

J_Mac

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Re: shift vs. rapid fire
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2008, 11:09:04 AM »
Really not a fair comparison since one is symmetrical and the other is asymmetrical...  if someone knew what they were doing, they could probably get a lot more shapes out of the Shift than the RapidFire.
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Re: shift vs. rapid fire
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2008, 11:39:14 AM »
well, basically what id like to know is if I stood in the same spot and threw the ball at the same breakpoint, which one would cover more boards overall....im thinking of getting one and already have a rapid fire and a special agent, looking for a ball to fit that gap....

Dan Belcher

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Re: shift vs. rapid fire
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2008, 11:44:14 AM »
One is a solid.  The other is a particle pearl.  How many boards it covers is really going to depend on what oil and surface you throw it on.  (Pearl tends hook more on the friction, solid will be slower to transition and will hook less on friction, but do better in oil).  Also, would you plan on leaving the Rapid Fire in its polished box finish, or sand it to a matte finish?

J_Mac

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Re: shift vs. rapid fire
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2008, 11:49:59 AM »
I presume the parameters for your comparison would be 4.5" pin to PAP, OOB finish, and lets just say the MB on the Shift at 60 deg.?

These two should be equally strong, the Shift being very slightly earlier due to the particles, but remember, it's a particle pearl being compared to a solid, so they can stack up pretty evenly.

IMHO the Shift is going to be more responsive to surface changes and will be more reaction shape tunable (backend reaction) than the RapidFire.

If Dave feels otherwise I'd go with his opinion and not mine.  After all... he's drilled both of these numerous times.

PS - I think the particle load in the Shift makes it a more appropriate choice for sport shots.  Takes a little of the snap out of the reaction to the dry boards.
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Re: shift vs. rapid fire
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2008, 12:17:30 PM »
haha alright, yea i was going to go with the shift and maybe put some surface on it, or a gravity or fury pearl...thanks for the responses