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Title: Gravity shift help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 07, 2008, 04:15:25 AM: I bought a gravity on the 5th and threw it on the 6th. I thought this ball would be similar to maybe a total nv in strength. I have found that I cannot throw this ball it has a backend reaction that I have never in my life seen. It was supposed to have midlane even thought its a pearl and not be quite so jumpy. When it hits dry boards it almost looks like it comes to a stop then jumps across the lane. People that saw it last night were in awe like myself.It looks cool but I cannot control it at all. Any suggestions. I average from 215 to 230 between the different leagues I am in so I would say I am an accurate and consitent shot maker. Average deuce on a sport shot. What can I do to tame this thing down. I was cranking my levrg last night and could only get 12 boards out of it. There was a ton of carry down and the shot was slick. My nsane wouldnt move at all but the levrg did good great control. The storm was moving around 25 boards even on this shot and with no control whatsoever. Please help.
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: thundercat23 on February 07, 2008, 12:33:58 PM: Add a little surface to the ball. I agree, this ball back ends like nothing I have and I have plenty to compare it to. I only have like five games on mine.

Good luck,
Jeff
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 07, 2008, 12:41:24 PM: I will try to put some 4k on it and see what happens. My buddy was throwing a t road and it would barely move last night too. If you hit anywhere close to the pocket with the massive backend it has pins fly everywhere messengers galore. But hitting the pocket is a chore. I may try to take a video of it. Sad part is I was barely turning the ball
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 07, 2008, 12:45:54 PM: This ball sounds pretty badass.
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Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: thundercat23 on February 07, 2008, 12:48:33 PM: That is what I would do.

I attended the Cell/Gravity seminar and Jeff Carter said, maybe not exactly, "Surface is your friend." Something along those lines, I didn't write it down to be quoting him later.

Please let me know how it reacts after the adjustment.

Edited on 2/7/2008 1:49 PM
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 07, 2008, 01:20:36 PM: How did you lay this one out?
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Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Monster Pike on February 07, 2008, 01:52:02 PM: quote:
How did you lay this one out?
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^^What he said.^^ I plan on getting one also. My original Shift was a little like that. My driller suggested redrilling w/pin up just above & right of ring & that's what we did. It is now tamer & more controllable. But that was my case, so yours may be different. Let me know how the light scuffing goes if that's what you try. Thanks & good luck.
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Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 07, 2008, 01:55:32 PM: quote:
My original Shift was a little like that.

Yeah I could have gone for the Gravity but I decided on the particles of the Shift. This ball is sick that's all I have to say and I am glad the particles are there to smooth it out some.

I want to throw this Gravity now. I guess next time there is an open house...
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Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 07, 2008, 01:58:00 PM: Here is a pic of the layout. It is drilled based on my pap The driller said with my pap my mass bias needs to be closer to the right of my thumb and not the left even though I am left handed. I have 2 friends that have the original shift. I was going to buy one til I saw them throw it. The original one looked like if it hit oil it just skated and didnt turn. But on a medium shot looked great.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/86camaroman/toys734.jpg
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 07, 2008, 02:18:09 PM: quote:
Here is a pic of the layout. It is drilled based on my pap The driller said with my pap my mass bias needs to be closer to the right of my thumb and not the left even though I am left handed. I have 2 friends that have the original shift. I was going to buy one til I saw them throw it. The original one looked like if it hit oil it just skated and didnt turn. But on a medium shot looked great.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/86camaroman/toys734.jpg

That's a nice looking ball. Do you know what your PAP is?

Oh on the original Shift I definitely use it to get through the oil (must have oil) and out to a drier part even if it is way downlane it will hook back from anywhere even from angles I didn't think possible (with a non power player like me). I went with the house layout with the pin under the ring finger.

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Edited on 2/7/2008 3:27 PM
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Monster Pike on February 07, 2008, 02:38:46 PM: I am definitely not an expert, but, you being a lefty, it looks like you have the mass bias key in a strong backend position in relation to your pin, w/out knowing your pap. That's according to a drill sheet I'm looking at. If you moved the key left of the thumb hole you'd get more angular backend. But I'm not sure how far & what shape you are desiring. Maybe let your driller know what's happening so he can advise/help/tweek, or you can change your line or release to compensate for your ball's movement. That's just my initial observation & opinion. Maybe some experts can chime in. Cuz I'd hate to screw you all up, LOL. Good luck.
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Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: n00dlejester on February 07, 2008, 02:42:28 PM: That's a pretty bowlin ball. It looks a lot like this Roto Grip ball my buddy had. As for your backend dilemma, I would try it at 4000 abralon. Maybe 2000 polished, or even 4000 polished. And if that doesn't work, maybe drill your fingers deeper to help create flare. Maybe an X-hole too. Increasing flare SHOULD have it pick up earlier. I know on my T-Road it helped tame the over/under a ton.
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 07, 2008, 02:44:41 PM: The reason the mass bias is there is because he said my pap is 2 3/4 over I am a low tracker he said. He said that my mass bias should be closer to the right side of my thumb for the ball to roll the way its supposed to .
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 07, 2008, 02:54:38 PM: quote:
The reason the mass bias is there is because he said my pap is 2 3/4 over I am a low tracker he said. He said that my mass bias should be closer to the right side of my thumb for the ball to roll the way its supposed to .

Oh you are that person with the PAP thread on the Miscellaneous forum. Connecting the dots...
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Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 07, 2008, 02:57:25 PM: Yes that would be me.
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 07, 2008, 07:03:53 PM: Rolled it on a fresher shot and for four games averaged 244 with it. Funny thing didnt feel like I really rolled it that good either. Got lucky and tripped alot of stuff out. I dont try to rev this ball because it goes crazy if I do I was standing on 5 board on the right hand side I am a lefty. Swung it over middle arrow out to about 5 board it would come screaming back without even hitting it. Super strong ball. With a fresher shot maybe its possible to use. Maybe.
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on February 08, 2008, 06:36:39 AM: Hey I wouldn't mind averaging 244...
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Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Bigmike on February 08, 2008, 07:32:57 AM: It will slow down once it gets a little bit of a track on it and/or it gets some oilsoak in the cover. My Gravity and Attitude were real jumpy off the spot until they got some oil in the cover. Now they are great compliments to one another.

If it is really jumpy, you could have your driller plug and redrill it with the pin under and the pin closer to 5 1/2 from PAP. The pin under will slow down the response to the friction and the longer Pin-to-PAP will cut back on the track flare.

The motor in the Shift series is really strong and combine that with an updated version of the R2S coverstock (R2X), makes for a ball that has a strong cover/strong motor. On these balls, you might err on the cautious side with pin-to-pap distances closer to 5-6" range. You may even want some key placements in the 15*-45* range. This will help the ball bleed off some energy and roll up vs snap up on the back ends. My Attitude is 5" x 30* x 35* (pin up) and my Gravity is 4.5" x 55* x 65* (pin under). Even though the key on the Gravity is in a stronger position, the pin under keeps the reaction off the friction rollier vs snappier.

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Edited on 2/8/2008 8:38 AM
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 08, 2008, 01:08:33 PM: I think it will be a great ball on the right condition. Last night it was a fresh shot with clean backends and that seemed to help me control it better. As long as I dont turn it much I am fine I definetely cant crank on it or it doesnt have a chance. The power this ball puts at the pins is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Austinm777 on February 09, 2008, 02:12:05 PM: I just posted a review of this ball under the Gravity Shift reviews thread. This ball is awesome with great length, back end, and hitting power that has to be seen to be believed. IMO, this is the most impressive Storm ball I have used. The Gravity Shift is great for typical house patterns and will become a favorite of Storm fans and league bowlers everywhere. This ball seems to find the pocket, even if you miss a few boards. Pin carry is great from both outside and inside lines.
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: hotshot187 on February 09, 2008, 02:20:54 PM: Austin would layout did you use? What pin to pap distance and where did you put the MB?
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: Austinm777 on February 09, 2008, 05:20:51 PM: As noted in my post under the ball reviews section, I don't know the specifics of my layout but according to my driller it is very similar to layout 1 which can be found under drill specs on Storm's website. The finger holes are drilled just below and to the left of the pin and the thumb hole is drilled where the key symbol is on the ball. As noted by Storm, this enhances the ball reaction. Pin to pap is 4 3/4" with mass bias 5" from PAP. The placement allows for length with back end. The ball does have some leverage weight and an extra hole. I am a down and in track player usually between 8 and 12 which is typical of normal house or league conditions. For my style of play, layout 1 has always worked best with all of my Storm equipment. The Gravity shift is smooth down the lane and continuous off of the break point. Long and strong, nothing hits like a Storm!
Title: Re: Gravity shift help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 10, 2008, 08:20:58 AM: This ball definetely puts alot of power to the pins. I really like how morich balls hit but I dunno this seems like it hits even harder.