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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: beeker on December 11, 2013, 04:04:39 PM
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I currently have a Lucid and IQ pearl. I usually start off the night with the Lucid and use it until the heads burn up. I then switch to the Iq pearl. As most people here already know the Iq pearl gets through the heads better and is stronger in the back. It compliments the Lucid well for me. The problem I sometimes run into is when the lanes are too burnt for the Iq. I wanted a ball to switch to when that happens. I have a bunch of older Visionary balls but they are mostly solids and are much more midlane type reactions. I will use them on certain sport patterns but they don't work well with my Storm balls in terms of being able to switch to them.
So I went to my proshop and told him I was looking for a ball to go to when the Iq pearl was too strong. He recommended the Hyroad Pearl. I thought the Lights Out would have been a better option for what I was looking for but I took his advice and got the Hyroad pearl. So far the Hyroad pearl is WAY too strong for what I wanted. It is stronger than the Iq pearl. In fact it is the strongest backend ball I have ever thrown. It is similar to the Iq pearl in the heads but it is stronger in the back.
Now I don't know what to do. Going from the Lucid to the Iq pearl works well for me. Going to the Hyroad is a very different shot because the back end is so strong. I already have a small hole punched in the side and I have scuffed it with 4000 then 3000. It is still too strong for what I was looking for.
Should I just give up on it and go with something much weaker? I could always keep it for a very long sport pattern where the Iq pearl isn't quite turning the corner. I don't know if it worth keeping just for that.
Does anyone else here have the Iq pearl and the Hyroad pearl?
If I didn't have the Iq pearl already I imagine I could keep screwing with the surface of the Hyroad pearl and eventually get it to work for me. My gut feeling is if I do that I'm gonna end up with a ball almost identical to the Iq pearl.
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The hyroad pearl goes sideways. that was a bad recommendation by your pro shop. Even if you tinker with it, it will never be any weaker than the gold ball.
You should have either went with a Lights Out or a Breeze
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So most people will agree the Hyroad pearl is stronger than the Iq pearl?
That is exactly what I have found and I am looking for confirmation.
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I was looking at the iq pearl as my 2 ball to my lucid as well. would you recommend this since you have both?
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I emailed storm and they indeed confirmed the hyroad pearl is a bit stronger overall than the IQTP.
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Personally, i would wait to see how the IQ Fusion rolls but that is just me. A lot of people have had great success with the gold ball.
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I like the Lucid and Iq pearl combo. They are very different balls but compliment each other well. The Lucid works well when there is head oil and the back ends are fresh. Like the start of almost any league night. The issue with the Lucid is it doesn't handle carry down well. Some nights I will actually move right and play straighter as the night goes on as the carry down transitions. It may be for only a few shots then I will began moving back left. It is fairly easy for me to see when to do that because the Lucid will skid a bit. That is what I like about the Lucid. It is easy to read what is going on with the lanes.
Most nights the head oil will eventually begin to burn up and you will see the Lucid hooking too early. Once that happens I put it away and go to the Iq pearl. The Iq pearl will get through the heads easily and make a strong but controllable back end move.
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I emailed storm and they indeed confirmed the hyroad pearl is a bit stronger overall than the IQTP.
Thanks! I have found the Hyroad pearl to be much stronger than the Iq pearl. Of course my Iq pearl is 8 months old and the Hyroad pearl is brand new. I don't know how they would compare if they were both brand new.
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I emailed storm and they indeed confirmed the hyroad pearl is a bit stronger overall than the IQTP.
Thanks! I have found the Hyroad pearl to be much stronger than the Iq pearl. Of course my Iq pearl is 8 months old and the Hyroad pearl is brand new. I don't know how they would compare if they were both brand new.
I cannot imagine a circumstance where someone would recommend a HyRoad Pearl as a step down from the IQP. BUT keep in mind that the IQP, the HR Pearl AND the Lights Out all use the same coverstock. The LO is probably the right choice for you, BUT with a weak drilling.
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My proshop has always given me good advice and are excellent at drilling. I asked him a few times if the Hyroad Pearl was the right choice for what I was looking for because I thought it would be way too strong. I also thought it would be too similar to the Iq pearl. I was looking for something weaker I could switch to when the Iq pearl was too strong. Unfortunately I was right and this time they were wrong. Ohh well. Nobody is perfect.
If you were me would you bother to keep the Hyroad pearl or should I just cut my loses and try something else? As of now I am very happy with the Lucid and Iq pearl combo. I just need a weaker ball for when the lanes are fried.
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I emailed storm and they indeed confirmed the hyroad pearl is a bit stronger overall than the IQTP.
Thanks! I have found the Hyroad pearl to be much stronger than the Iq pearl. Of course my Iq pearl is 8 months old and the Hyroad pearl is brand new. I don't know how they would compare if they were both brand new.
I cannot imagine a circumstance where someone would recommend a HyRoad Pearl as a step down from the IQP. BUT keep in mind that the IQP, the HR Pearl AND the Lights Out all use the same coverstock. The LO is probably the right choice for you, BUT with a weak drilling.
This is incorrect, the Hyroad Pearl and and IQTP share the same cover. The Lights Out is R2S hybrid.
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I agree with the pro shop operator. I have both balls and for me, the Hyroad Pearl is usually a ball I go to after the IQ Tour starts to labor. However, I do have to take a step left. Is it stronger? Depends on what you're looking for. Getting in on the lane (I.e., 20-25 at the arrows, not forcing a ball up a burned track). The HYPearl is stronger, down lane. The IQTP is stronger, In the midlane. The shapes are different and compliment each very well.
I'm going to be frank, you sound like someone who refuses to or is incapable of moving their feet. You're using two low rg balls in the Lucid and IQTP which don't yield a ton of motion when the fronts dissipate. When you get something in your hand that has movement downlane its "too strong". With the extra hole and surface I'd suggest moving in on the lane and see what happens.
Or you could get a weaker ball, drill it weak and run the risk of it being a dart. But that's standard advice on ballreviews.com where a large majority of users think its criminal to move their feet. Its more prudent to jam a ball up dirt or the next favorite piece of advice, drill a urethane ball.
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I agree with the pro shop operator. I have both balls and for me, the Hyroad Pearl is usually a ball I go to after the IQ Tour starts to labor. However, I do have to take a step left. Is it stronger? Depends on what you're looking for. Getting in on the lane (I.e., 20-25 at the arrows, not forcing a ball up a burned track). The HYPearl is stronger, down lane. The IQTP is stronger, In the midlane. The shapes are different and compliment each very well.
I'm going to be frank, you sound like someone who refuses to or is incapable of moving their feet. You're using two low rg balls in the Lucid and IQTP which don't yield a ton of motion when the fronts dissipate. When you get something in your hand that has movement downlane its "too strong". With the extra hole and surface I'd suggest moving in on the lane and see what happens.
Or you could get a weaker ball, drill it weak and run the risk of it being a dart. But that's standard advice on ballreviews.com where a large majority of users think its criminal to move their feet. Its more prudent to jam a ball up dirt or the next favorite piece of advice, drill a urethane ball.
Do you have the Iq tour pearl or the regular Iq tour???
I am not afraid to move my feet at all. I can play in when I need to. Your analysis of me is incorrect.
I agree with you that the Iq pearl is more midlane than the Hyroad pearl. I am mostly surprised by how strong the Hyroad pearl is in the back. It is not what I expected nor what I was looking for. I am not saying I couldn't adjust my game to find a use for the Hyroad pearl. I am sure I could. Regardless I was looking for a ball that was more controllable and less agressive for when the lanes are fried. Something I could take out of my bag and play a similar line to finish the night. Not a ball that I have to completely switch lines mid game and hope for the best.
You do agree that if I played the same line with the Iq pearl as the Hyroad pearl that in most situations the Hyroad will hook more correct???
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I agree with the pro shop operator. I have both balls and for me, the Hyroad Pearl is usually a ball I go to after the IQ Tour starts to labor. However, I do have to take a step left. Is it stronger? Depends on what you're looking for. Getting in on the lane (I.e., 20-25 at the arrows, not forcing a ball up a burned track). The HYPearl is stronger, down lane. The IQTP is stronger, In the midlane. The shapes are different and compliment each very well.
I'm going to be frank, you sound like someone who refuses to or is incapable of moving their feet. You're using two low rg balls in the Lucid and IQTP which don't yield a ton of motion when the fronts dissipate. When you get something in your hand that has movement downlane its "too strong". With the extra hole and surface I'd suggest moving in on the lane and see what happens.
Or you could get a weaker ball, drill it weak and run the risk of it being a dart. But that's standard advice on ballreviews.com where a large majority of users think its criminal to move their feet. Its more prudent to jam a ball up dirt or the next favorite piece of advice, drill a urethane ball.
Do you have the Iq tour pearl or the regular Iq tour???
I am not afraid to move my feet at all. I can play in when I need to. Your analysis of me is incorrect.
I agree with you that the Iq pearl is more midlane than the Hyroad pearl. I am mostly surprised by how strong the Hyroad pearl is in the back. It is not what I expected nor what I was looking for. I am not saying I couldn't adjust my game to find a use for the Hyroad pearl. I am sure I could. Regardless I was looking for a ball that was more controllable and less agressive for when the lanes are fried. Something I could take out of my bag and play a similar line to finish the night. Not a ball that I have to completely switch lines mid game and hope for the best.
You do agree that if I played the same line with the Iq pearl as the Hyroad pearl that in most situations the Hyroad will hook more correct???
Yes, I do have both iq tours. I hate to break it to you, sometimes you have to change lines mid game, its part of bowling.
My analysis is incorrect? Then why did you say you'd say you'd "like to finish the night playing a similar line". This kind of cements my blind analysis. You want to play where you want and not move all that much.
I'd suggest a longer, higher pin IQTP. Anything else would be more downlane than I think you're comfortable with. Maybe a lights out, I have a low pin, low hole lights out so I don't consider it "weak" like most on this site. Perhaps with a higher pin its longer and weaker.
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Maybe I am not a good enough bowler to be able to switch to a completely different line and ball mid game when I don't know what the ball is going to do.
I make adjustments the entire night. When I see a ball is starting to over or under react I adjust accordingly until there is no more room to adjust. I then switch to a ball that will give me the reaction I am looking for. Knowing how much more or less the ball you switch to is going to react is critical. Switching balls while also switching to a different line in the middle of third game is not something I would like to do. All it takes is one split and I'm screwed.
I don't go from swinging it out to ten then moving way left and swinging it out to 20. Maybe your good enough to do that but I rarely see anyone change lines that drastically late in the night. During the first game or during practice trying to figure out the lanes I have seen and I do the same thing. But changing balls and lines drastically at the end of the night I rarely see anyone do.
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Maybe I am not a good enough bowler to be able to switch to a completely different line and ball mid game when I don't know what the ball is going to do.
I make adjustments the entire night. When I see a ball is starting to over or under react I adjust accordingly until there is no more room to adjust. I then switch to a ball that will give me the reaction I am looking for. Knowing how much more or less the ball you switch to is going to react is critical. Switching balls while also switching to a different line in the middle of third game is not something I would like to do. All it takes is one split and I'm screwed.
I don't go from swinging it out to ten then moving way left and swinging it out to 20. Maybe your good enough to do that but I rarely see anyone change lines that drastically late in the night. During the first game or during practice trying to figure out the lanes I have seen and I do the same thing. But changing balls and lines drastically at the end of the night I rarely see anyone do.
I guess. Hows the old saying go? "A man that never took a chance, never had a chance". One spilt doesn't "screw you" unless its in the 10th with a chance to win.
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Don't miss understand me. There are nights when the outside shot gets burned early and I have to make a giant adjustment and move way in. But when that happens I do that with the current ball I am using first. Then after a few shots I will switch balls if I need to.
As of right now I just don't have a need for the Hyroad pearl because I like the Lucid and Iq pearl better. I wanted something weaker than those two and that is not what the Hyroad pearl is.
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Bottom line is you told your pro shop what you wanted and followed their advice. The outcome was not what you expected. I'm not sure why that has led to someone "blindly" insulting your supposed inability to move your feet or adjust your game???
Good luck on whatever you decide.
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Thanks but I don't take it personal. I assume he didn't mean it as an insult. I agree with you that I asked for something weaker and that is not what I got. If someone here tells me the Hyroad pearl is weaker than the Iq pearl then I will eat crow. So far everyone here agrees the Hyroad pearl is stronger and that is not what I asked for.
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so this thread wasnt enough? you had to make a review bashing the ball saying basically the same thing you did in this thread? :o
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I wasn't insulting him, if I was, believe me, it'd be clear as day.
Moving on, another option could be a Freak N Frantic. Less core and rolly for a pearl ball. I'd knock the surface off though if you went that route.
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so this thread wasnt enough? you had to make a review bashing the ball saying basically the same thing you did in this thread? :o
Your right. I haven't been on this site in years. I found the ball review section before the forum. I could change my review of it but I think it might help some people who have a similar bag as me. If I would have came across a review describing the Hyroad pearl as stronger than Iq pearl I wouldn't have gotten it.
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I am leaning towards the Lights Out at this point. That was my original gut feeling and it still appears to be worth a shot.
If you had identical drillings of an Iq pearl and Lights Out how different do you think they will be?
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supernatural
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I am leaning towards the Lights Out at this point. That was my original gut feeling and it still appears to be worth a shot.
If you had identical drillings of an Iq pearl and Lights Out how different do you think they will be?
My Lights Out is earlier and smoother, low pin/low hole & 3000 pad by hand. My IQTP has a high pin and 2000 pad by hand. The IQTP requires me to start a little further left and is more continuous. Neither ball is particularly great covering a lot of boards.
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So your saying they are fairly close in overall reaction? Should I go weaker than the Lights Out? Tropical Breeze maybe?
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So your saying they are fairly close in overall reaction? Should I go weaker than the Lights Out? Tropical Breeze maybe?
there is a huge gap between those 2 , the supernatural would be a perfect step down 4 u
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In my bag and what I've been using just about all season long is a Natural, Lights Out, and IQTP.
All 3 use about the same drilling. I normally start the night out with the IQTP playing just inside the track on your THS. As the night goes on I will move left or right depending on what I see with the ball and who I'm bowling against. 70% of the time I don't need to make a ball change unless my pin carry is horrendously bad like tonight.
Anyway, the layout on all 3 balls is pin over ring finger (I'm a righty), CG slightly right on my IQTP and almost center of palm on the Lights Out, the Natural is laid out identical to the LO. I feel the 2 compliment each other extremely well. The last 3 nights I've shot 653, 660, 673 with that 2 ball combo. Tonight was a challenge just getting either ball to read the lanes at all.
Try a Lights Out before you go with a Supernatural, The SN will most likely not be enough ball for what you want it to do. You would most likely have to make a 5-7 board jump right with a Super Natural to even be in the ball park at the break point, then with as weak as the SN is you would probably have issues with pin carry. Tropical Breeze would be another option with a stronger layout.
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supernatural is alot stronger then the tropical breeze
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I emailed Storm and they confirmed the Hyroad pearl is stronger than the Iq pearl. They basically described exactly what I am seeing. The Hyroad pearl will go slightly longer and have a stronger reaction in the back.
They told me if I want a ball for when the Iq pearl is too strong to either try a Lights Out with a weaker drilling than the Iq pearl or a Breeze with a similar drilling.
This leads to me to believe the Iq pearl and Lights Out are very similar if they are drilled the same.
Brunsmike, if you threw the exact same shot with the Iq pearl and then the Lights Out could you please describe the difference for me? Since it sounds like you have them drilled fairly similar you probably can answer the question the best.
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Try the roto grip Wrecker.
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Perhaps a different company with a slower response cover than the HyRoad Pearl or any of its R2S cousins?
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supernatural is alot stronger then the tropical breeze
Not when I threw them.
The Breeze has more length but more backend, and slightly more overall hook.
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Try the roto grip Wrecker.
Wrecker goes side ways.
The new pearl Rumble called the UpRoar would be a better option.
For the time being, go the other direction with your surface prep of the HyRoad. Smooth the cover with Storm step 3 compound, and then follow it up with some Moonshine or Xtra shine. Clog the pours some, so it isn't as responsive to the oil line. It will help it push longer and possibly help keep the ball in front of you. You have already changed the cover with surface, so it won't hurt to try going the other direction.
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I am thinking of just keeping the Hyroad pearl the way it is and using it when I need something to go long and be very strong in the back. I probably won't use it often but when I need to play deep inside and need something that can still turn the corner I'll give it a shot.
I've been reading reviews all day. I am leaning towards trying a Breeze and drilling it similar to my Iq pearl. I know it will be a big step down from the Iq pearl but it might work well when the lanes are burnt. The Lights Out seems like it will be too close to the Iq pearl.
I would like to stay with Storm. I used Visionary exclusively for years. Once I change companies I try to stay within their line.
It appears that 3 of the Breeze balls are all the same just different color. One of them has a hybrid coverstock. So I assume the 3 pearl coverstock ones all perform the same.
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I am thinking of just keeping the Hyroad pearl the way it is and using it when I need something to go long and be very strong in the back. I probably won't use it often but when I need to play deep inside and need something that can still turn the corner I'll give it a shot.
I've been reading reviews all day. I am leaning towards trying a Breeze and drilling it similar to my Iq pearl. I know it will be a big step down from the Iq pearl but it might work well when the lanes are burnt. The Lights Out seems like it will be too close to the Iq pearl.
I would like to stay with Storm. I used Visionary exclusively for years. Once I change companies I try to stay within their line.
It appears that 3 of the Breeze balls are all the same just different color. One of them has a hybrid coverstock. So I assume the 3 pearl coverstock ones all perform the same.
In realty, that is what the HyRoad pearl is designed for. My suggestion was really only to make it useful for you.
Breeze is a BIG step down from the Tour Pearl.
Roto Grip and Storm come out of the same plant.
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I didn't know Roto Grip and Storm shared the same factory.
I know I could keep changing the cover of the Hyroad Pearl to try to make it do something different just so it will fit what I was looking for. I now think that will be fruitless. Instead I will keep it for when I need what it does well, go long and turn the corner hard. As of now I don't have much use for that but one day I might. I can think of a few sport patterns that I bowled on this summer that it would have worked well on.
I will take a look at the Roto Grip line.
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I would think a Breeze could be too quick off the dry depending on your release. I love my Rumble for the conditions you describe. The hitting power is phenomenal yet the ball is smooth on the back. Strong controlled arc for me.
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How is your Hy-Road pearl drilled in relation to your IQ pearl? The same? Or different? I could give you some re-drill ideas if you are wedded to keeping this ball.
If not, do you have to have another pearl? I like both the ideas of going to a Rumble or a Breeze, but you'd probably have to scuff the surface of the Breeze a bit to truly make it useable.
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They are drilled similar with similar length pins. I am not good with the terminology but the the Hyroad Pearl appears to be drilled slightly more agressive. The proshop had to add a balance hole because it was over the legal side weight limit.
Is it possible to post pics here?
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Yes. I think you have to use the first square icon in the second row to do that.
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Here is a pic of all three
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Are you open to trying new layouts?
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I am going to discuss it with my proshop guy on monday night. I am open to it but I am not sure if it is worth the effort. I am thinking I should leave it alone and use it when I need what it does well. I can always get something else that better fits what I need.
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Why don't you put a hole in it that will help with taming the backend reaction down.
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It already has one. I could make the hole bigger of course.
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A larger hole and/or surface will help in taming the motion in the back down
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I threw a few games after league tonight to compare the Iq pearl to the Hyroad pearl. Everything I have said already still holds. The Hyroad pearl goes a bit longer and turns harder in the back end. I tried playing in, swinging it out, and slowing it down. Regardless the Hyroad reacted the way I expected.
I know I can still adjust the reaction of the Hyroad pearl but I am almost positive now that I am going to keep it the way it is and drill something different to fill the hole I was originally looking for. Something much weaker for when the lanes are too burnt for the Iq pearl. The Hyroad pearl does give me a different and slightly stronger angle than the Iq pearl. I know I will be able to use it when the lanes call for it. Then I will be able to switch to the Iq pearl when the Hyroad pearl is too much. After that is the ball I am still looking for. I will keep you posted once I talk to my Proshop guy and we discuss it. He is one of the best in the business and I know he will figure this out for me.
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I threw a few games after league tonight to compare the Iq pearl to the Hyroad pearl. Everything I have said already still holds. The Hyroad pearl goes a bit longer and turns harder in the back end. I tried playing in, swinging it out, and slowing it down. Regardless the Hyroad reacted the way I expected.
I know I can still adjust the reaction of the Hyroad pearl but I am almost positive now that I am going to keep it the way it is and drill something different to fill the hole I was originally looking for. Something much weaker for when the lanes are too burnt for the Iq pearl. The Hyroad pearl does give me a different and slightly stronger angle than the Iq pearl. I know I will be able to use it when the lanes call for it. Then I will be able to switch to the Iq pearl when the Hyroad pearl is too much. After that is the ball I am still looking for. I will keep you posted once I talk to my Proshop guy and we discuss it. He is one of the best in the business and I know he will figure this out for me.
i still find this very odd as everything you are having issues with is the complete opposite for me...i can only get this ball to work that last game when they are void of oil...first and second game i havea lot of over/under with this ball and see none of this huge backend people say about
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I threw a few games after league tonight to compare the Iq pearl to the Hyroad pearl. Everything I have said already still holds. The Hyroad pearl goes a bit longer and turns harder in the back end. I tried playing in, swinging it out, and slowing it down. Regardless the Hyroad reacted the way I expected.
I know I can still adjust the reaction of the Hyroad pearl but I am almost positive now that I am going to keep it the way it is and drill something different to fill the hole I was originally looking for. Something much weaker for when the lanes are too burnt for the Iq pearl. The Hyroad pearl does give me a different and slightly stronger angle than the Iq pearl. I know I will be able to use it when the lanes call for it. Then I will be able to switch to the Iq pearl when the Hyroad pearl is too much. After that is the ball I am still looking for. I will keep you posted once I talk to my Proshop guy and we discuss it. He is one of the best in the business and I know he will figure this out for me.
i still find this very odd as everything you are having issues with is the complete opposite for me...i can only get this ball to work that last game when they are void of oil...first and second game i havea lot of over/under with this ball and see none of this huge backend people say about
I had the same issue when the T-Road Pearl came out. Everyone raved that the T-Road Pearl would cover some boards with a pin over bridge cg slightly kicked right layout. All I got with that ball and layout was a max 10 board move from the break point. Despite the hook potential disappointment it eventually became one of my all time favorite balls. The layout on that ball became my favorite as well, the next 3 storm balls I got got the same basic layout with great results for my needs and lane conditions. I later got another T-Road Pearl and drilled it stronger, the results I got weren't as good as everyone still made it out to be.
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I threw a few games after league tonight to compare the Iq pearl to the Hyroad pearl. Everything I have said already still holds. The Hyroad pearl goes a bit longer and turns harder in the back end. I tried playing in, swinging it out, and slowing it down. Regardless the Hyroad reacted the way I expected.
I know I can still adjust the reaction of the Hyroad pearl but I am almost positive now that I am going to keep it the way it is and drill something different to fill the hole I was originally looking for. Something much weaker for when the lanes are too burnt for the Iq pearl. The Hyroad pearl does give me a different and slightly stronger angle than the Iq pearl. I know I will be able to use it when the lanes call for it. Then I will be able to switch to the Iq pearl when the Hyroad pearl is too much. After that is the ball I am still looking for. I will keep you posted once I talk to my Proshop guy and we discuss it. He is one of the best in the business and I know he will figure this out for me.
i still find this very odd as everything you are having issues with is the complete opposite for me...i can only get this ball to work that last game when they are void of oil...first and second game i havea lot of over/under with this ball and see none of this huge backend people say about
Differences in tilt and rotation are what is probably causing the difference.
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I started my league tonight on Beating Path using the Hyroad pearl. I normally start with the Lucid then switch to the iq pearl. Well the hyroad pearl allowed me to play deeper inside but still have the power to turn the corner and carry. I was able to stay with it almost the whole set. Eventually the backend was too strong so I switched to the iq pearl. The iq pearl worked ok but it was also over hooking a bit in the backend. I'm and now thinking about leaving the hyroad pearl the way it is and starting with it. I am going to weaken the iq pearl slightly to give me a slightly less aggressive look than the hyroad pearl.
So my originally reviews still stand. For me the hyroad pearl is stronger overall than the iq pearl. I am going to weaken the iq pearl slightly so there is a better separation between the two. I will say that now I am starting to understand what the hyroad pearl does well I am starting to rethink it's position in my bag. It has become the first ball out of the bag when a strong backend reaction is the best plan of attack.
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I'm jumping into this conversation late, so forgive me if I repeat what another has said. When you say "stronger" and weaker", we need to be sure we know what you're talking about. Are you saying that the Hyroad Pearl rolls stronger through the oil than the IQ Tour Pearl, or are you saying it reacts stronger off the dry? There is a big difference there, and it's something that has baffled bowlers for a long time.
For instance, I used to have both a Virtual Gravity and a Tropical Storm. On my house shot, the Tropical Storm out-hooked the Virtual Gravity. That is to say, when I threw both on the same line and hit the dry, the Tropical exploded at the break point where the Virtual lost power and just kind of slow arced, hitting weakly. At first glance, that would lead some people to believe that the Tropical was a stronger ball. Obviously, that was not the case at all.
The Virtual was ten times stronger than the Tropical. As such, the Virtual burnt energy trying to dig into the oil. By the time it reached the dry, it had very little left. The Tropical, due to its much weaker nature, still had all of its energy stored up, so it made a big move off the dry.
Could this be what you're seeing with the IQ Tour Pearl and Hyroad Pearl? Now, the whole thing confuses me a bit because the IQ Tour Pearl was a clean, strong backend piece for me until I scuffed the surface a bit with 2000 abralon. Still, just based on the covers, cores and such, I would expect the Hyroad to be super clean and super strong off the spot; however, it will probably be pretty allergic to oil, which could by why some people are saying they can only use it during the third game. If there isn't any dry to bounce off of, I don't think you'll see much movement out of the Hyroad Pearl.
Does any of this ring true?
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Yes it does Gene. My findings so far is the Hyroad pearl goes longer through the oil and reacts very strong off the dry. The Iq is "stronger" in the midlane and "weaker" in the back end. The Iq pearl is far from weak off the dry but the Hyroad is stronger.
The problem for me right now is they are too similar too each other. I think if I scuff the Iq pearl a bit it will help to tame the back end slightly allowing me to switch to it when the Hyroad is too strong in the back end.
Now I am still looking for a "weaker" ball than the Hyroad pearl and Iq pearl. I am going to talk with my proshop this week and come up with a plan. I am leaning towards a lights out or tropical breeze.
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Okay, that makes sense to me. I could definitely see the IQ Tour Pearl and Hyroad Pearl being very similar if drilled the same and kept at box finish. For me, the IQ Tour Pearl wanted to go sideways off the dry when it had the box finish. I had to lightly scuff mine with 2000, and that helped smooth things out quite a bit.
In regard to the ball you're now looking for, I would be wary of the Lights Out. From what I've heard, the Lights Out is very clean, but it is really, really strong off the dry. A friend of mine was just telling me yesterday that if he had people asking for a ball that doesn't hook very much, he would definitely steer them away from the Lights Out. Now, this guy has slow speed and a lot of hand, so take it for what it's worth. Still, it sounds to me as if the Lights Out is very responsive to friction. From what I've seen/heard, the Tropical Breeze is much tamer. Heck, you could even look into something like a Super Natural. That looks like a pretty decent ball for lighter conditions or for players that want to go straighter.