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charlest

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in ball reaction between the IQ and the original Virtual Gravity (not the Nano)??

I wonder if there might be more similarity if the IQ (not the Tour version) were sanded 500/4000, just like the VG?
(I assume the IQ is a 500/1000/2000/3000 sanding sequence.)

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Re: Just out of sheer curiosity, does anyone see any resemblance ...
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2012, 03:46:32 PM »
I dont really think so. The asym core of the O.V.G. would make it a bit more angular and pronounced  move off the friction. The IQ's are going to be smoother. But still a good question. I think the same type of look can be simulated as far as making the IQ's more angular but the O.V.G. would prevail as you chase in.
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Re: Just out of sheer curiosity, does anyone see any resemblance ...
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2012, 03:57:24 PM »
I dont really think so. The asym core of the O.V.G. would make it a bit more angular and pronounced  move off the friction. The IQ's are going to be smoother. But still a good question. I think the same type of look can be simulated as far as making the IQ's more angular but the O.V.G. would prevail as you chase in.

Well, don't eliminate any differences just because of the core's specs.
The surface preparation is also different, with the VG's promoting angularity!!
PLUS the IQ's coverstock is different from all others. 

(Don't forget that the IQ has a different coverstock from the IQ Tour also. So don't lump them in the same basket.)
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Re: Just out of sheer curiosity, does anyone see any resemblance ...
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2012, 04:29:11 PM »
Oh, by no means am i bunching the 2 IQ's together. The tour has a difference in core numbers that make it a much lower diff. Im just saying that asyms are going to be more angular. Watch my best friend throw the original V.G. and it is sick how much that ball peels off the backend. I think the core of the IQ is going to want to make the ball transition a bit sooner so it's not going to recover as well as the V.G. when you start to move in.
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Re: Just out of sheer curiosity, does anyone see any resemblance ...
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2012, 07:57:35 PM »
Agreed about the influence of the VG's asymmetric core.
A friend polished his IQ and found a very strong backend, much stronger than a polished Marvel
PLUS I recall reading somewhere (probably the BJI's review of the IQ) that the IQ's coverstock was designed with the intent of providing more length and more backend for/with the same surface as the Marvel's coverstock family.
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 07:59:11 AM »
The Marvel is a smoother design, anyways. Both IQ's are going to be special symmtric balls on you medium to medium heavy THS. In my area, the Tour has sold more than the original. I dont know exactly why that is. Maybe it's because I've been hyping the Tour as the right reaction on the lanes for medium THS. It's also GameBreaker like in reaction, smooth transition, nothing too overreacting. That and the Fire Road has been big in my area.
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Re: Just out of sheer curiosity, does anyone see any resemblance ...
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2012, 08:39:56 AM »
in ball reaction between the IQ and the original Virtual Gravity (not the Nano)??

I wonder if there might be more similarity if the IQ (not the Tour version) were sanded 500/4000, just like the VG?
(I assume the IQ is a 500/1000/2000/3000 sanding sequence.)

Thanks.

I completely understand what you are saying. The Marvel has the same cover as the Virtual Gravity, but seemed to be a little more mild on the backend of the lane. I would use the Marvel on the fresh, and switch to a Virtual Gravity as the pattern carried down a little, but didn't "break down". The IQ seems to fit in the arsenal very much the way I used my Virtual Gravity. It is a little cleaner, and a little more angular than the Marvel.

Very astute observation Charlest.

Sometimes I think bowlers get too caught up in what "should be" instead of what actually "is". What does the ball actually do, compared to what we think it is supposed to do. With large balance holes, it is easy to get a symmetrical ball to roll like an asymmetrical ball. The difference is, the asymmetrical ball doesn't need the extra hole to make the core imbalanced.
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Re: Just out of sheer curiosity, does anyone see any resemblance ...
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2012, 10:13:25 AM »
Thank you, tommy, but to be honest, I haven't yet observed an IQs. I got this from one professional review and from a friend telling about his IQ's ball reaction, especially after he polished it.

I think you can influence the IQ's ball reaction towards that of the old VG, by drilling and by surface, while still allowing it to handle a good deal of oil.

Also remember, just by putting 3 holes for the fingers in a symmetric core, you alter it to become asymmetric by anywhere from a little to a lot, depending on the size and location of the holes. Adding a weight hole makes an even more significant effect on the core and thus, the ball reaction.
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Re: Just out of sheer curiosity, does anyone see any resemblance ...
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 08:36:35 PM »
What I didn't see a big difference out of was the IQ and the Marvel.  Maybe it's because I'm partial to the marvel series but I honestly didn't see a difference to warrant the release of the IQ.