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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: lilpossum1 on December 19, 2014, 10:59:20 AM
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Why did storm wait so long to make a pearl and solid version of it? I can understand maybe having a year gap because of producing other balls, but a 4-5 year gap?
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Probably because it was called the Hyroad . . specifically because it was a hybrid cover in the Road series . . I'm not actually sure why they have a pearl or solid version, doesn't make much sense.
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It's called the T-Road Solid and T-Road Pearl. They were a little forgotten about kinda like the Gravity Shift being the pearl version of the Virtual Gravity and not the Virtual Energy. I also felt naming it the Hy-Road Solid or Pearl was weird.
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Probably because it was called the Hyroad . . specifically because it was a hybrid cover in the Road series . . I'm not actually sure why they have a pearl or solid version, doesn't make much sense.
It makes plenty of sense when you figure that 99% of the bowling population have no idea that hy-road literally means the hybrid in the road series. Everyone just knows that they loved the ball. The naming of the solid and pearl versions are probably responsible for half of their sales, if not more.
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OP you gotta be really young. The hyroad is what started all of the buzz about hyrbids..."For Storm" balls. Now we all know that the t-road solid and pearl were out first (really great solid and pearl releases btw)...they tried to evolve with the 'Reign and Reign Supreme' and then did a great job with the 'Victory Road solid/pearl'...the reign line did not perform to expectations, and the victory road did very well...but neither of their feedback or sales surpassed the hyroad. Thus you see the return back, and renaming of the line to the hyroad theme. Hell RotoGrip put out some not so great MP releases in the Bandit and Outlaw...
Every company wishes they had a 6 year ball in their product line...the hyroad is sacred, guys!
Ebi brought back the game breaker...
Ford brought back the Taurus..
LOL 2 days ago the original black berry came back!
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The T-Road Solid was ball of the year before the Hyroad came along. I had the Pearl and loved it. Didn't care for the Hyroad actually... same drill as my Pearl... multiple surface changes. Found it to be squirty. Go figure!
But I agree Storm has got a lot of mileage out of the Hyroad name and actually the core itself goes back a lot longer.
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Ahhh that all makes sense. Thanks guys. I never really payed attention to equipment back when all of these came out. I just started bowling when the hyroad came out actually. As for the outlaw being a lot so great ball, I beg to differ. It would still be in my bag if it wasn't falling apart around the fingers lol. I loved the control and hitting power I had from it. The only ball I have liked better than it is my primal rage.
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T-Road Solid and Pearl, Thunder Road Solid and Pearl, Blue Thunder, Hot Rod Hybrid, Thunder Struck Solid and Pearl, Fire Road, CrossRoad, Eraser PBT... I think I got most of them that use a modification of the core that is found in the Hyroad.
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Every company could have several multi year balls in their lineup if they wanted.
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This is true. If we started a thread about, "which ball do you wish would come back," it would be hundreds of posts long and the same ball would be mentioned several times. There are balls that are a decade old that would still be great to have around. X-Factor was one of my all time favorites, plus the Shock Trauma.
Every company could have several multi year balls in their lineup if they wanted.
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Ahhh that all makes sense. Thanks guys. I never really payed attention to equipment back when all of these came out. I just started bowling when the hyroad came out actually. As for the outlaw being a lot so great ball, I beg to differ. It would still be in my bag if it wasn't falling apart around the fingers lol. I loved the control and hitting power I had from it. The only ball I have liked better than it is my primal rage.
I got an outlaw and bandit...they rock! My comment was not from personal experience. They didn't sell, that's all. They had to put up a 900 score contest to get em to move and they still didn't. I got em both on closeout for like 70 each.. Couldn't have made a better investment. Had an 803 out of the box...the ball was so smooth and even!
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Every company could have several multi year balls in their lineup if they wanted.
They could, yes. Most don't sell enough to warrant them staying in production as most buyers gotta have the new "IT" ball. I got a hyroad solid in the wings, and I know exactly what I'm getting...its going to be good!
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Every company could have several multi year balls in their lineup if they wanted.
yes definitely. game breaker....black widow solid.....resurgence......columbia had a 5 year release with that one under different names (resurgence, burst, disruption are all the same ball with different names.) but for some reason they all discontinue them and try and get that same IT factor that the original had....if you dont give people a choice to get the new ball they will still buy the old one.
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It's all about marketing. There is no reason for ball mfg to release so many balls so frequently other than to sell more product. Ball companies can take the same core/cover, change the color and name, and sell them because people think it's new.
Honestly, this is part of what has killed bowling for the average working stiff. A 3 ball roller, shoes, ect is @$1000.00. If the game want so dependent on equipment and a little more dependent on talent and houses quit putting out wall shots, you might see the game return to its former glory. Make accuracy more important than power, force people to use their damn thumb, and make spares.
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This isn't unique to bowling. Look at Golf, Tennis, really any other sport. Something newer and better is always coming out (Clubs, Tennis rackets, shoes, clothing, etc.)
Even most new cars offer very small changes over the previous year’s model, as complete redesigns don't happen that often.
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It's all about marketing. There is no reason for ball mfg to release so many balls so frequently other than to sell more product. Ball companies can take the same core/cover, change the color and name, and sell them because people think it's new.
Honestly, this is part of what has killed bowling for the average working stiff. A 3 ball roller, shoes, ect is @$1000.00. If the game want so dependent on equipment and a little more dependent on talent and houses quit putting out wall shots, you might see the game return to its former glory. Make accuracy more important than power, force people to use their damn thumb, and make spares.
Well you touch on a problem that you can't completely blame on bowling proprietors. There are plenty of lanes that are empty every night in bowling centers that could have harder lane conditions like PBA Experience leagues but bowlers as a whole avoid the harder shots. They like to see inflated numbers. If bowling centers were to put out difficult conditions in all leagues it would run people out of their houses.
In keeping with thread topic how would hyroad compare to reign supreme or reign on?
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Maybe the name Hyroad meant little to those that think hybrid coverstocks are a great joke that most people keep missing.
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Dont knock the hyroad til you try one!
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I have no doubt its a great ball im referring to why people wouldn't assume the name referred to the coverstock. Like assuming the T-Road was a Traction cover or a Tacky cover or anything else for that matter.
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I have no doubt its a great ball im referring to why people wouldn't assume the name referred to the coverstock. Like assuming the T-Road was a Traction cover or a Tacky cover or anything else for that matter.
The T in those "Road" series of balls was short for Thunder, because they were cores tweaked from the original Thunder Road balls, and obviously updated covers.
The Hy in Hy-Road was in fact short for Hybrid cover.
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Spot on Tommygn
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Still comes back to my point why would someone assume anything. To later release a solid and pearl version only furthers the point.
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Still comes back to my point why would someone assume anything. To later release a solid and pearl version only furthers the point.
It's just marketing....period.
The Hyroad sold very well, people like it, and the name carries weight.
Right now Storm could put the IQ or Hyroad brand on anything they want and people would buy it.
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Release Date: November 2008
While designing and testing the Hy-Road™ we kept in mind that we needed to maintain the superior on-lane performance that has come expected from the Thunder Line™ of bowling balls. Our desired outcome was to create a bowling ball that strategically placed itself in-between the T-Road Solid™ and T-Road Pearl™. What better way to do so than combine the two coverstocks, hence creating a hybridcoverstock. By utilizing the ever so powerful Inverted Fe² Technology for the weight block, we knew that we could create the mid-lane read needed to handle a medium-heavy lane condition. By encasing the weight block inside the R2S™ Hybrid coverstock, we found the perfect balance between its two predecessors. We found the Hybrid to be a great go-to ball once the T-Road Solid™ is too much. It gives you better mid-lane control than the Pearl. The reaction can be described as the ultimate benchmark reaction, mid-lane read with a predictable hook motion.
It is called Hy-Road because it is a hybrid. Why can't you understand this?
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Everybody understands it. The op ask why they waitrd so long for a peral and solid which sent people on post about it being hybrid and in the name blah blah blah.
Why can't you understand that?
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Still comes back to my point why would someone assume anything. To later release a solid and pearl version only furthers the point.
obviously everyone doesn't understand
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Why did Camaro have the RS, SS and Z-28? Why did Firebird have the FireHawk and Trans Am? Because they were good and they sold!
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Still comes back to my point why would someone assume anything. To later release a solid and pearl version only furthers the point.
obviously everyone doesn't understand
Original post
Why did storm wait so long to make a pearl and solid version of it? I can understand maybe having a year gap because of producing other balls, but a 4-5 year gap?
First reply
Probably because it was called the Hyroad . . specifically because it was a hybrid cover in the Road series . . I'm not actually sure why they have a pearl or solid version, doesn't make much sense.
Second reply
It's called the T-Road Solid and T-Road Pearl. They were a little forgotten about kinda like the Gravity Shift being the pearl version of the Virtual Gravity and not the Virtual Energy. I also felt naming it the Hy-Road Solid or Pearl was weird.
Third reply
It makes plenty of sense when you figure that 99% of the bowling population have no idea that hy-road literally means the hybrid in the road series. Everyone just knows that they loved the ball. The naming of the solid and pearl versions are probably responsible for half of their sales, if not more.
So Hy-road may be named because of the coverstock, but most people probably didn't pay attention to that because it was a play on words of high road and they just assume the ball was either solid or pearl or whatever. Then the solid and pearl version come out and literally makes less sense of the name. Which is why my point is no one should assume anything.
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Wow. Just wow.
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So people's ignorance dictates what a company meant by naming a bowling ball "Hy-Road?"
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So people's ignorance dictates what a company meant by naming a bowling ball "Hy-Road?"
Don't play this game with this bozo, he has to be right and be the smartest guy in the room. Just let him think that.
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So people's ignorance dictates what a company meant by naming a bowling ball "Hy-Road?"
Don't play this game with this bozo, he has to be right and be the smartest guy in the room. Just let him think that.
Says a lot coming from you. My point was very simple and has nothing to do with Storm naming system. Only that a lot of buyers apparently didn't pay attention to the name of the ball meaning hybrid (read the replies in this post). If I could type it s l o w e r maybe that would help you. Thinking northface can read and comprehend a thread would be my mistake. Just stick to your random one liners its the best you can hope for.
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So people's ignorance dictates what a company meant by naming a bowling ball "Hy-Road?"
Don't play this game with this bozo, he has to be right and be the smartest guy in the room. Just let him think that.
Says a lot coming from you. My point was very simple and has nothing to do with Storm naming system. Only that a lot of buyers apparently didn't pay attention to the name of the ball meaning hybrid (read the replies in this post). If I could type it s l o w e r maybe that would help you. Thinking northface can read and comprehend a thread would be my mistake. Just stick to your random one liners its the best you can hope for.
Don't you have some Brunswick cocks to blow? You just can't help yourself, all I saw was a bunch of back and forth with two Storm staffers and your clown ass talking in circles. They come here, try to explain to you the logic behind the ball names, nope, does not process to you. You must continue to debate when none is needed. Again, you just have to be right, even when you are not. But ill stick to random one liners and you can stick to making shitty videos with you jumping up off the ground because you hit up on the ball so hard.
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Awwww you keep trying. You will think of something good next week im sure.
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Well wtf? I ask why they waited so long, and I got the response for what I wanted. It is a marketing ploy to sell more balls by using the hyroad name. That was what I wanted, not all this bull crap. Why can people not be mature and refrain from bashing everyone? Oh wait, I forgot, this site is full of trolls.
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Delete the post
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Awwww you keep trying. You will think of something good next week im sure.
You're so amusing, you don't even own the damn ball, but yet according to your posts you wrote a thesis on its existence, origin, etc. Go deep throat JustRico or some other current or former Brunswick employee.
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Wow you Harbor some intense pent up hostility don't you...jealous comes to mind
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Wow you Harbor some intense pent up hostility don't you...jealous comes to mind
Not really, just to a certain few on the internet. Why? Because I can and I don't respect the people I go after. Jealous of what? Jealous and bowling do not go together.
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Wow you really have issues if your main intent is to be an Internet bully...you should be working for a ball company you'd fit right in
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Wow you really have issues if your main intent is to be an Internet bully...you should be working for a ball company you'd fit right in
Im not a bully, im not sure how a grown man can "bully" another grown man on the internet. Especially with "block" or "hide" features. Don't like me? Ignore me. If people are getting soft from what some random online says.....then we have some weak minded people walking around. As long as annoying, yet amusing users like kid clueless, I mean kidlost and charlest exist, I will challenge them at any opportunity. Your ball company reference is over my head. Ill assume its an insult.
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I am no longer a Storm staff member. I wanted to throw 900 Global and was not allowed to be frank. Storm has and is making great stuff. But the last 6 months of 900 releases were too much of a tease.
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Tkkshop did you follow that I was trying to say some people were confused by the name? Not that theres something wrong with storm or their naming process.
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I understood what you were saying, but it looked as if you were in that group. Just based on your comments. I just expected you to know why it was called the Hy-Road.
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lol thats why you replies kept throwing me off. I was trying to reference the first few post that said similar things about the name when replying to the op. I never paid attention to it personally because I don't throw storm. I always look for the coverstock on whatever I purchase but for many its not the norm.
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Fair enough 8)