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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: stormed1 on May 19, 2019, 01:13:35 AM

Title: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: stormed1 on May 19, 2019, 01:13:35 AM

Release Date: 6/17/19    Street Date: 6/21/19

AstroPhysiX

COLOR: Cyan/Indigo/Charcoal
FRAGRANCE: Plum Nectar
COVERSTOCK: R2Sô Pearl Reactive
CORE: Atomicô
FINISH: 1500-grit Polished
REACTION: Length w/ Strong Backend
LANE CONDITION: Medium to Heavy Oil
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.

!Q Tour Emerald

COLOR: Emerald
FRAGRANCE: Melon Mint
COVERSTOCK: R2Sô Solid Reactive
CORE: C≥ô Centripetal
FINISH: 1500-grit Polished
REACTION: Length w/ Backend
LANE CONDITION: Medium to Heavy Oil
WEIGHTS: 12-16 lbs.
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: leftybowler70 on May 19, 2019, 12:33:28 PM
Another IQ?? Have waited for this moment for years; Look forward to the video soon....   ::)
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: Good Times Good Times on May 19, 2019, 12:35:54 PM
IQ Emerald is a pearl according to the Storm site. 
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: bowlingman817 on May 19, 2019, 12:42:59 PM
Different color same tech = higher price point
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: stormed1 on May 19, 2019, 01:42:14 PM
This was the info I got from my distributor
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: AlonzoHarris on May 19, 2019, 05:55:03 PM
Different color same tech = higher price point

Easy sale when the demand for the IQ Tour Pearl is what it is still. People still sell the gold for $250-$300 online.  I wanted a pearl of it, never got it, and like the green better so Iím happy with this one.
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: suhoney24 on May 19, 2019, 07:48:57 PM
Different color same tech = higher price point
I noticed they jacked the iq tour up as well... It was down to $142 and it's up to $154 as well
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: billdozer on May 20, 2019, 02:52:25 AM
Different color same tech = higher price point
I noticed they jacked the iq tour up as well... It was down to $142 and it's up to $154 as well

Solids have had and still have the lower price point at $139 even.

The master line new releases are all at $155.
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on May 20, 2019, 09:12:35 AM
They should re-release the fusion with different color scheme instead. Just picked up a used fusion when might have bought new instead.
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: AlonzoHarris on May 20, 2019, 10:50:31 AM
They should re-release the fusion with different color scheme instead. Just picked up a used fusion when might have bought new instead.

It wasn't as well received as the solid and pearl were.
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: michael.willis9 on May 20, 2019, 01:17:15 PM
They should re-release the fusion with different color scheme instead. Just picked up a used fusion when might have bought new instead.

It wasn't as well received as the solid and pearl were.

maybe not as well received but people absolutely loved the pearl and still love the solid.

but it'll still sell, the Nano too if they re-did that one.

There's 4 lines that'll always sell, well maybe more but thats off the top of my head... the !Q, hyroads, black widows and Venom's.  the Badger line will soon be there but its still too new.

Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: northface28 on May 20, 2019, 02:18:20 PM
They should re-release the fusion with different color scheme instead. Just picked up a used fusion when might have bought new instead.

It wasn't as well received as the solid and pearl were.

It wasnít? I had 10 800s with the fusion. That ball was TITS around here.
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: j1kjvan on May 20, 2019, 03:47:52 PM
It was my first ball out of my bag and the last ball to finish the night.  It is a 15 and I am dropping to 14 lbs.  There don't seem to be too many of those around now.
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on May 20, 2019, 04:18:51 PM
IQ Tour pearl has been available in various special editions several times now (Tour 30, pba 60th, etc). Not sure about overseas but havent seen anything but the original release of fusion.  Oh well still neat looking ball.
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: leftybowler70 on May 20, 2019, 06:30:09 PM
I still have my collection ( solid (2), pearl, fusion, nano)  and they kill my house shots and flatter sports shots in my area....  look forward to the updated version to add to the bag.  :P
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: AlonzoHarris on May 20, 2019, 09:45:13 PM
They should re-release the fusion with different color scheme instead. Just picked up a used fusion when might have bought new instead.

It wasn't as well received as the solid and pearl were.

It wasnít? I had 10 800s with the fusion. That ball was TITS around here.

By no way saying it was bad or didnít work for folks. It just didnít/doesnít get the cult following the solid and pearl get that Storm knows will make it worth their time to reproduce.
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: Good Times Good Times on May 20, 2019, 10:13:25 PM
IQ Fusion, Gold and Solid are have all been all-time greats for me. 

Iíll get the Emerald going into the fall. 
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on May 21, 2019, 10:18:34 AM
IQ Emerald is in fact a pearl, and it's not a higher price point, still Master line, but prices have gone up due to increased materials cost . . so general inflation, not price gouging, not more profit, increased price due to increased cost, same margin.

This was also a straight community based release.  People would riot if the Tour Solid was discontinued, and haven't been happy that the Tour Pearl actually was.  All the remakes/re-releases have sold well/out, so this was something the consumers wanted back in the regular rotation, and based on the information I've heard, it will be back to stay, it's NOT a special release like say the Marvel Pearl. 

While some were hoping for a straight re-release and I'm sure some will find some way to be upset or try to say "it just doesn't react the same," EVERYONE else has been releasing gold balls left and right and a straight re-release wouldn't have met the same reception, so I think there will ultimately be more interest and more sustained interest because this color is pretty uncommon.  Chad put a lot of work into the aesthetics on this one to help increase the staying power (as if the winning core-cover combo isn't enough), it doesn't look like anything else out there (picture also doesn't do it justice by a long shot). 

As far as the Astro goes . . I was disappointed that the cover wasn't something more exotic, but there's several parts to this.  The Atomic core has a lot of torque down lane, the PhysiX makes a pretty sharp turn at the breakpoint, so for a familiar feeling compliment, NRG Pearl is pretty early and smooth, R3S Pearl is the same way, and we haven't seen R4S Pearl yet, but due to the formula strength, I'd imagine it would be in the same boat as R3S, and the "X" variants are a nano blend, which is why the Marvel Pearl for example with R2X Pearl on it is so smooth for a pearl.  R2S Pearl is the cleanest and fastest pearl cover we have in the lineup right now.  The SIDE note to this is that with the Code Black being so popular, this will both help the Astro feel like a true compliment to the PhysiX AND help satisfy those who are missing the Code Black as a more usable asym pearl.  The pictures don't do IT justice either. 

Ultimately it's like Hammer releasing a new Black Widow, you know what you're getting and even though you've had it before seemingly a million times, there's a fresh twist AND very high buying confidence.  Despite the few hipsters that always want innovation and something "new," the majority of the community has an "if it's not broke, don't fix it" attitude.  I don't know how the companies can both make new and fresh, and not screw with what works at the same time.  People want new, but don't want you to discontinue their favorites either, and that just doesn't work in a business like this.  If the companies were smart, they would keep a couple staple releases indefinitely (Pink Widow, IQ Tour, GB3, Venom Shock, etc.,) and KEEP MAKING balls for the popular lines (Widow, IQ, Venom, Hyroad, etc.,), and everyone should be ok with that. 

I'm hyped for the IQ Emerald because I've never thrown an IQ Tour Pearl of any kind, and although I'm a little meh about the Astro just because it's R2S Pearl again, logically speaking, it's kind of a hipster response because it's a Pink Widow type release, it's a surefire can't miss.  These will be a couple monster releases for good reason. 
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: AlonzoHarris on May 21, 2019, 10:54:23 AM
^^ 100% Luke
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on May 21, 2019, 12:53:25 PM
>and the "X" variants are a nano blend, which is why the Marvel Pearl for example with R2X Pearl on it is so smooth for a pearl.

Wow thanks as really didn't know that and makes sense.  I am sure it will be a good ball for sure (Tour Emerald that is, love my Marvel Pearl).  Just a huge R2S hybrid fan (sum greater than parts Timeless aside).
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: SVstar34 on May 21, 2019, 12:58:22 PM
and the "X" variants are a nano blend, which is why the Marvel Pearl for example with R2X Pearl on it is so smooth for a pearl.

Can you clarify this Luke? I was more under the impression that R2X is the main base for the nano covers versus it actually being a "nano" blend
Title: Re: Introducing the AstroPhysiX & !Q Tour Emerald!
Post by: Luke Rosdahl on May 21, 2019, 02:16:53 PM
Nano tech is its own animal, so as far as I understand it, R2X has a nano component or has nano in it.  I could be wrong, but all I know is that there's nano in R2X, to what degree, I'm not sure. 

and the "X" variants are a nano blend, which is why the Marvel Pearl for example with R2X Pearl on it is so smooth for a pearl.

Can you clarify this Luke? I was more under the impression that R2X is the main base for the nano covers versus it actually being a "nano" blend