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Best dry lane option
« on: October 17, 2013, 10:30:52 PM »
How does the storm breeze compare to the super natural? I'm looking for the best option between these two to use in the third game of a 5 man league when the shot gets scorched and everything is jumping. I've been searching for a comparison video or ball review but I haven't had any luck.

 

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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 05:38:23 AM »
I have them both. The Breeze goes longer and snap harder in the backend. The SN is milder by comparison but it better be darned dry and you better not have any carrydown whatsoever. On some light oil conditions, you could go from the Breeze and drop down to the SuperNatural int he 3rd game. The SN is definitely a step down from the Breeze.

The SN has the stronger core, but the Breeze's coverstock is more adjustable. I've taken by Breeze from 2000 to 3000 to 4000 dull and polished and used it at all stages. My most useful stage was 3000 grit dull. Smoother and more controllable and less susceptible than when polished, but still plenty easy to get thru the heads on light oil.

Which you need depends more on what is not working now, what amount of oil you start with in league, your hand (revs, ball speed, etc.) and how dry it gets during the transition and the 3rd game. Also you can play deeper with the Breeze, where the SN is still an outside-the-3rd-arrow type of ball. It has more recovery than most urethanes but never what a resin ball can give you.
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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2013, 06:15:54 AM »
I currently have Scream 2013 and the shot dried up quicker than normal this week.  I pulled out the Scream in the second game and worked great.  Once we started the 3rd game the Scream started moving alot more.  How does the Scream compare to the Breeze?

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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 09:23:37 AM »
I currently have Scream 2013 and the shot dried up quicker than normal this week.  I pulled out the Scream in the second game and worked great.  Once we started the 3rd game the Scream started moving alot more.  How does the Scream compare to the Breeze?

The Scream is a medium oil ball for many people, not weak at all. Medium is a lot of oil. You can drill it weaker, but it already has a weak core. If you're speed dominant, you can use it on lighter oil, but not true light oil.  I have one also and would say it was a full notch about the Breeze in overall strength. With a Breeze you should be able to go a lot straighter. For a speed dominant bowler, both the Scream and the Breeze will have a mild backend; for a rev dominant bowler, both can have a strong backend.
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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2013, 10:18:27 AM »
Charlest, I appreciate all of the information.  Probably the best response I've received on this site since I've been using it.  Thanks again.

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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2013, 11:05:27 AM »
I hope it helps you make a valid decision.
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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2013, 04:43:39 PM »
Charlest,

I have a few more questions if you don't mind me asking...

1) If the scream, breeze, and super natural have the same layout will there be a natural step down from each other?

2) How does the breeze pearl differ from the hybrid? I'm assuming the hybrid will be a little earlier than the pearl, but would it still be a step down from the scream?

3) Last but not least and this is off topic... How does the wrecker compare to the lights out?

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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2013, 06:49:00 PM »
Charlest,

I have a few more questions if you don't mind me asking...

1) If the scream, breeze, and super natural have the same layout will there be a natural step down from each other?

The difference is more pronounced when your speed and rev rate are matched, the difference is even more pronounced when you are rev dominant, and LESS pronounced when you are speed dominant.

If you are speed dominant, you might need only one of the three balls. If you are rev dominant, you might need all 3 of these balls. Then yes, they will be a step down from one another.


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2) How does the breeze pearl differ from the hybrid? I'm assuming the hybrid will be a little earlier than the pearl, but would it still be a step down from the scream?

The Reactor coverstock shows greater differences when it is sanded or dull, than when it is polished.  Polished, you will see more of a difference between hybrid and pearl, when you are rev dominant. You will probably see almost no difference if you are speed dominant. With the matched player being 1/2 way in between.

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3) Last but not least and this is off topic... How does the wrecker compare to the lights out?

I have not experienced or seen them compared these two closely enough to form an opinion.  ( I suspect that due to the R2S coverstock that the Lights out will be smoother, but that is only a guess.)
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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2013, 07:01:22 PM »
Understood, thanks again!

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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2013, 07:31:24 PM »
3) Last but not least and this is off topic... How does the wrecker compare to the lights out?

The lights out is a touch earlier and in my opinion is more continuous than the Wrecker. Through having both I found the Lights Out almost unusable for my lighter THS. The numbers I believe are pretty close but the R2S is stronger than the Hybrid cover on the Wrecker.
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Re: Best dry lane option
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2013, 04:12:48 PM »
It really depends on your game.  If you have a ton of hand and can't keep the ball on the right side of the head pin by the third game no matter how deep you get, then I would stay away from the urethane ball.  If you are trying to find something to keep you from moving in, then good luck.  Urethane might work, but once you have to start playing much out angle your carry is toast.  Anything else is going to hook off the dry spot like a monster, no matter how tame the ball is supposed to be, unless you can really take a lot of hand out of the ball.