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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: AlonzoHarris on August 16, 2017, 07:56:13 PM
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I think at the 2017 PWBA US Women's Open, we seen just how great the IQ Tour Solid is at getting..9.. I felt like I was watching myself bowl league with it when the 7 or 10 pin was still standing.
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She struggled on the Orlando open show. IQ Tour went too long, she switched to the Code Red which still didn't start up soon enough. To me it was the perfect spot with the Dare Devil Trick for her, she needed more cover.
Danielle threw the Trick in the match right after which looked much better
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Liz uses it a lot, and yeah it's really good at getting 9. Sometimes that's good, most of the time that's bad. If the diff on that thing was .035 or something, it would still achieve the desired effect but maybe kick enough more on the backend to get them all down.
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Finally a thread about the IQ tour being a great nine count ball. I'll admit I have never used one but from watching others, it does have a really solid, consistent reaction but the carry power is definitely lacking.
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Lol it's no secret . . we go round and round on the site here about it. Yeah 9 instead of X sucks, but 9 is way better than 6. That's why the ball is still around. Completely average in every way, but the most consistent ball on the market.
Finally a thread about the IQ tour being a great nine count ball. I'll admit I have never used one but from watching others, it does have a really solid, consistent reaction but the carry power is definitely lacking.
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9/ isn't always a bad frame. It's all relative to the conditions.
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Lol it's no secret . . we go round and round on the site here about it. Yeah 9 instead of X sucks, but 9 is way better than 6. That's why the ball is still around. Completely average in every way, but the most consistent ball on the market.
Finally a thread about the IQ tour being a great nine count ball. I'll admit I have never used one but from watching others, it does have a really solid, consistent reaction but the carry power is definitely lacking.
IQ Tour X inbound! Same control predictability as the original, but handles the oil better and hits harder!
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Of course the goal is to get as many strikes as you possibly can, HOWEVER, it isn't always realistic regardless of the bowler, their style, the condition, the ball their using, or at what surface. One of the reasons I'll forever be happy with purchasing the whole !Q line (Except the 30).
The main goal is to be CONSISTENT at the end of the day, It's still 2 balls to knock down 10 pins. I'll take the !Q's any day of the week; I don't care what anybody thought thinks or says; You KNOW what your going to get consistently; Can that be said about All others? Don't think so. Just my .002 cents.
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9/ isn't always a bad frame. It's all relative to the conditions.
This ^^
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Also we can also look at it a different way; The hyroad also goes too long and doesn't handle a ton of oil, BUT the way it's designed it that it's motion on the back gets the job done on majority of conditions, meaning it's all relative to the !Q.
Very consistent motion on the back, while maintaining a predictable and consistent motion (with decent continuation, albeit it carries the world circles around the !Q)
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The IQ Tour Solid has been the most important ball in my bag this summer on USBC White #2 and WTBA sport patterns. I have not been leaving many solid single pin leaves. Carry has been great.
However, it's does not get much use on house where it does not carry as well as other pieces. Like every ball, it has its time and place.
Re Liz Johnson - it was clear the shot was hard and she was looking for as much control as possible. 9/ was not a undesirable result on that condition.
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Every ball does have its place, You still however have to have balls reguardless of condition that will be very consistent; I do agree about carry that you don't however want to pull your hair out with 9 the majority of the time either. ;D
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i feel liz should have used the sure lock ball would have given her more drive to the hole
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Well finally did the unthinkable myself this afternoon and pulled the trigger on a Hy-Road (first Storm ball in a decade). My PSO told me they are winding production down on them and distributor he orders from only had 20 15lbers left. Double glad grabbed one if that is the case. Pretty sure going to pass on the IQ solid though (and every other Storm ball as closet full now). Got too many smooth pieces as it is.
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Finally a thread about the IQ tour being a great nine count ball. I'll admit I have never used one but from watching others, it does have a really solid, consistent reaction but the carry power is definitely lacking.
Finally? Luke and I have been screaming from the roof tops this is the best "get 9" ball in history. Meanwhile, the masses keep beating off to it.
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Of course the goal is to get as many strikes as you possibly can, HOWEVER, it isn't always realistic regardless of the bowler, their style, the condition, the ball their using, or at what surface. One of the reasons I'll forever be happy with purchasing the whole !Q line (Except the 30).
The main goal is to be CONSISTENT at the end of the day, It's still 2 balls to knock down 10 pins. I'll take the !Q's any day of the week; I don't care what anybody thought thinks or says; You KNOW what your going to get consistently; Can that be said about All others? Don't think so. Just my .002 cents.
Thats great, except when the scoring pace is 230+ and youre bowling clean 198 games.
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>this is the best "get 9" ball in history
Hold my beer. - some of my urethanes
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Then I guess you can go join Jeff Richgels and not use the IQ Tour. ;D Your choice.
For my money, and a lot of other people, it is still standing next to the Hyroad as an all time great because it gets 10 pins on the first try.....A LOT.
Scoring pace is just a measuring stick against the field, and I don't care which ball I brought that helps me keep pace, that is the one I'm using. If it isn't the IQ Tour, I will move on to the next orb, but quite often the IQ is my choice at some point. It has a place in my bag, and will keep it until it doesn't earn it's place. Same as the rest.
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Finally a thread about the IQ tour being a great nine count ball. I'll admit I have never used one but from watching others, it does have a really solid, consistent reaction but the carry power is definitely lacking.
Finally? Luke and I have been screaming from the roof tops this is the best "get 9" ball in history. Meanwhile, the masses keep beating off to it.
When it stops making me money, I'll stop beating off to it. I have 3 IQ Tours, and they have all paid for themselves multiple times over. My carry is exceptional with it. I tend to attribute that to my higher rev rate, higher axis rotation release that can make other balls too snappy to carry consistently.
The IQ Tour is the greatest 9 pin ball of all time for people that shouldn't be throwing an IQ Tour. For the rest of us, it's a godsend.
On the flip side, I bought a Torrent at the beginning of the summer, hearing that it was similar to the IQ Tour but better. It'll be up on the Facebook marketplace sometime this weekend.
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Great point northface, but scoring pace is all relative at the end of the day. I'll take a clean 198 any day of the week if I threw the ball great, hit my mark everytime etc. When push comes to shove, ALL BALLS leave corner pins, and are also either TOO MUCH, or NOT ENOUGH.
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Then I guess you can go join Jeff Richgels and not use the IQ Tour. ;D Your choice.
For my money, and a lot of other people, it is still standing next to the Hyroad as an all time great because it gets 10 pins on the first try.....A LOT.
Scoring pace is just a measuring stick against the field, and I don't care which ball I brought that helps me keep pace, that is the one I'm using. If it isn't the IQ Tour, I will move on to the next orb, but quite often the IQ is my choice at some point. It has a place in my bag, and will keep it until it doesn't earn it's place. Same as the rest.
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Great point northface, but scoring pace is all relative at the end of the day. I'll take a clean 198 any day of the week if I threw the ball great, hit my mark everytime etc. When push comes to shove, ALL BALLS leave corner pins, and are also either TOO MUCH, or NOT ENOUGH.
A clean sub 200 game on a house shot is one of the more frustrating things to endure. A clean sub 200 game on a sport shot is more often than not a bacon saver. #nuances
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>A clean sub 200 game on a house shot is one of the more frustrating things to endure.
When practicing or bowling for fun I find them quite enjoyable actually (had a 190 clean earlier this week, often a fact of life for stroker urethane enthusiasts, urethane on THS is not that much easier than sports patterns for me at least). Much prefer a sub 200 clean than over 200 but missed a single pin spare at least when there isn't money on the line. That said have my reactive line up for when I have to string em and yes sub 200 clean with reactives on THS then sucks.
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I always thought the tour nano was better😬
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The lady I sponsor and will be headed out on the PWBA Tour for 2018 only uses Storm and Roto. After our latest buying binge, she currently has 20+ rocks drilled. The only duplicate ball in her bags....2 IQ Tour Solids.
When we bowl locally, on house shots, there are plenty of better options than IQ Tours and most of the time she doesn't even take them with us. However, when she sees Sport patterns and flatter patterns, the IQs are the first ones out of the bag to help her read the pattern. Her original HyRoad is not far behind.
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From the day I got the first IQ tour it was apparent that it was not a house shot ball. However, after getting my brains beaten in a couple of senior high rollers by guys throwing the ball I quickly grabbed one. Paid for itself the first tournament I threw it. I never take it in the door on a house shot or a long sport pattern, but anytime I am looking for something outside 10 it is my first option.
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Well I do use and like the IQ Tour on a house shot and there you go.... Highly polished, play outside 10, and it carries great. I like it as a step down from my DD Trick as they both have a similar shape that I like on the house shot where I bowl. My question for all those that have commented what would be a ball with similar shape that would be a good ball down from the IQ Tour. I like my Ascent pearl when the lanes are really dry but looking for something in between the 2 balls.
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Well I do use and like the IQ Tour on a house shot and there you go.... Highly polished, play outside 10, and it carries great. I like it as a step down from my DD Trick as they both have a similar shape that I like on the house shot where I bowl. My question for all those that have commented what would be a ball with similar shape that would be a good ball down from the IQ Tour. I like my Ascent pearl when the lanes are really dry but looking for something in between the 2 balls.
Hy-Road can handle the medium dry better than the IQ Tour and is a better ball in general. More angular shape wise though.
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Well I do use and like the IQ Tour on a house shot and there you go.... Highly polished, play outside 10, and it carries great. I like it as a step down from my DD Trick as they both have a similar shape that I like on the house shot where I bowl. My question for all those that have commented what would be a ball with similar shape that would be a good ball down from the IQ Tour. I like my Ascent pearl when the lanes are really dry but looking for something in between the 2 balls.
Roto Grips Hustle INK is the perfect step down as it give damn near the exact same shape as the IQ.
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When the discussion about the Tour being a 9 count machine, I have to disagree. I love the ball. I feel with hand position changes, finger position tweaks and a few abralon pads, you can bowl on anything, except for maybe the super long patterns.
The beauty of it is it responds very well to minor adjustments the bowler makes. The monster balls really don't. Just my .02.
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When the discussion about the Tour being a 9 count machine, I have to disagree. I love the ball. I feel with hand position changes, finger position tweaks and a few abralon pads, you can bowl on anything, except for maybe the super long patterns.
The beauty of it is it responds very well to minor adjustments the bowler makes. The monster balls really don't. Just my .02.
As always it depends on bowler style. Fair number of people generate so much energy that urethane is the only thing they can keep on the lane. For many people control is a bigger issue than carry and this ball is a better match up for them. For a low track speed dominant stroker like myself this ball is basically for flat patterns only. Its why the Hy-Road pearl I just ordered is going to send it back to the closet instead of my bag for THS league.