BallReviews

Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: john rambo on December 14, 2010, 08:52:33 AM

Title: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: john rambo on December 14, 2010, 08:52:33 AM
Storm Marvel

- COLOR: Teal/Sky Blue/Black
- COVERSTOCK: R2X Solid Reactive
- CORE: Centripetal
- FACTORY FINISH: 2000-grit Abralon
- FRAGRANCE:Aromatherapy - Performance
- RECOMMENED LANE CONDITION: Heavy Oil
- RG: 16#-2.48, 15#-2.48, 14#-2.53, 13#-2.59, 12#-2.65
- DIFFERENTIAL: 16#-.052, 15#-.050, 14#-.049, 13#-.045, 12#-.035  
- DESCRIPTION: With the next Prodigy- the Marvel, the intent is to create a motion that is more aggressive, especially in oil, than the original version. Looking at the success of the original Virtual Gravityâ„¢, it‟s clear that bowlers love to see a strong midlane roll that doesn‟t quit on the backend, so that is our goal!


Storm Victory Road

- Color: Amethyst Pearl/Gray Pearl
- Coverstock: R2S Pearl Reactive
- Weight Block: Inverted Fe3 Technology
- Factory Finish: 1500-grit Polish
- Flare Potential: 5” - 6” (Medium-High)
- Fragrance: Warm Maple Syrup
- RG: 16#-2.53, 15#-2.56, 14#-2.60, 13#-2.59, 12#-2.65
- RG Diff: 16#-.055, 15#-.052, 14#-.050, 13#-.045, 12#-.035
- Recommended Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil  
- Description: The intent of the new Thunder Line release, Victory Road, is to extend the original core technology of the Hy-Road's Fe2 even further—seeing what we can do to make the best even better.
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: urbanshaft on December 14, 2010, 04:55:40 PM
victory road another r2s pearl sigh
and isnt marvel just a dimension now with stronger core
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: john rambo on December 14, 2010, 04:58:49 PM
Pics are up at bowling.com
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: john rambo on December 14, 2010, 05:22:04 PM
Victory Road's new Inverted Fe3 thunder core is the same core that storm used in the WAR that was a International release a few months ago, clearly different in looks from the Hyroad and TRoad core.
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: pin-smasher on December 14, 2010, 06:02:09 PM
so wouldnt the victory road be a t-road pearl basically????
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: tburky on December 14, 2010, 06:05:01 PM
quote:


Storm Victory Road

- Color: Amethyst Pearl/Gray Pearl
- Coverstock: R2S Pearl Reactive
- Weight Block: Inverted Fe3 Technology
- Factory Finish: 1500-grit Polish
- Flare Potential: 5” - 6” (Medium-High)
- Fragrance: Warm Maple Syrup
- RG: 16#-2.53, 15#-2.56, 14#-2.60, 13#-2.59, 12#-2.65
- RG Diff: 16#-.055, 15#-.052, 14#-.050, 13#-.045, 12#-.035
- Recommended Lane Condition: Medium-Heavy Oil  
- Description: The intent of the new Thunder Line release, Victory Road, is to extend the original core technology of the Hy-Road's Fe2 even further—seeing what we can do to make the best even better.


I definitely like the cam core in the reign and reign supreme...oh well!
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: urbanshaft on December 14, 2010, 06:28:10 PM
yea where does the victory vs the reign fit in
i thought the reign was a jacked up t road pearl but now we got a jacked up version of the reign??
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: john rambo on December 14, 2010, 06:37:47 PM
I would say that the Victory is more angular than the Reign if both drilled the same.  My t-road pearl is drilled the same as my reign and the t road pearl for me is more angular with the reign being more rolly
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: bowler0821 on December 14, 2010, 07:13:11 PM
I mean I like what I see and the numbers look good higher eg and lower diff than a hyroad. But the different is lower on a reign. Should make a very clean and angular move. Maybe closer to the hockey stick motion storm is known for. Still very excited. Wonder how it will match up with a hyraload
--------------------
Mike Marchak

Forward Together Forward never forget 2/14/08

http://photobucket.com/Marchak

In this game i could not of heard it any better then what my coach says. "LESS IS MORE".
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: MichStBwlr2009 on December 14, 2010, 07:24:27 PM
The Victory Road's core is inverted, so does that mean it will be a smoother overall reaction? This is similar to what Storm did with the Spitfire, which is the inverted core of the Fired Up. This gave the Spitfire a smoother and earlier read than the Fired Up which was long and angular. So possibly the Victory Road is an earlier and smoother version of the Hyroad?
--------------------
Dave Lughermo
Michigan State University Bowling Alumni
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: sstaz on December 14, 2010, 09:33:39 PM
the description on bowling.com is
The intent of the new Thunder Line release, Victory Road, is to extend the original core technology of the Hy-Road's Fe2 even further—seeing what we can do to make the best even better.

and

With the next Prodigy- the Marvel, the intent is to create a motion that is more aggressive, especially in oil, than the original version. Looking at the success of the original Virtual Gravityâ„¢, it‟s clear that bowlers love to see a strong midlane roll that doesn‟t quit on the backend, so that is our goal!

so im guessing the marvel will be the next prodigy
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: tywithay on December 14, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
quote:
the description on bowling.com is
The intent of the new Thunder Line release, Victory Road, is to extend the original core technology of the Hy-Road's Fe2 even further—seeing what we can do to make the best even better.

and

With the next Prodigy- the Marvel, the intent is to create a motion that is more aggressive, especially in oil, than the original version. Looking at the success of the original Virtual Gravityâ„¢, it‟s clear that bowlers love to see a strong midlane roll that doesn‟t quit on the backend, so that is our goal!

so im guessing the marvel will be the next prodigy




very astute....Marvel is just a solid version of the prodigy. Makes little sense to me seeing as the Prodigy was a sanded pearl that rolled a lot like a solid. Marvel will probably be earlier and stronger in the oil.

 Victory road is a mid-to-high RG pearl, look for long with a strong late snap.
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on December 15, 2010, 04:15:21 PM
Nice to see them including the lower weight core specs as well - thanks - an amazing number of people bowling with 13# equipment these days.
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: nocarey on December 15, 2010, 05:34:50 PM
quote:
Nice to see them including the lower weight core specs as well - thanks - an amazing number of people bowling with 13# equipment these days.


and 14#
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: urbanshaft on December 15, 2010, 10:45:58 PM
can any staffers give us details about the new balls?
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on December 15, 2010, 11:37:19 PM
"nocarey wrote:

''Dave in Rio Rancho...an amazing number of people bowling with 13# equipment these days''

....and 14#"

Indeed, in the area I bowl in the 14# ball is the most common weight used, with the 16 pounder almost obsolete. The guys that bowl 3 or 4 leagues use 15 lbs.


Edited on 12/16/2010 1:39 AM
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: Yanker on December 16, 2010, 07:17:02 AM
How does bowling.com post this before stormbowling.com does?
--------------------
Chucky or Jason for Head Coach of the Cowboys 2011?
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on December 16, 2010, 08:24:13 AM
"Yanker: How does bowling.com post this before stormbowling.com does?"

Easy, Storm is clearing out old inventory and has a release date - Bowling.Com, Bowlingball.com etc. know the release date but want to get pre-release sales. You will notice that other Storm sellers already have the information as well - though I haven't seen any yet that have images of the cores, likely wasn't in the first info release - they all got the same info.
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: john rambo on December 16, 2010, 08:50:30 AM
Info and pics are now up at stormbowling.com
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: nocarey on December 17, 2010, 07:17:58 AM
already on the USBC approved list
Dec-10
http://bowl.com/equipandspecs/approvedballlist/StormHighScore.jsp

release date??? early January 2011
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: bowler0821 on December 17, 2010, 07:58:30 AM
Ryan I could be wrong but the rgs are not the same. Hyroad 2.52 to Victory road 2.56
--------------------
Mike Marchak

Forward Together Forward never forget 2/14/08

http://photobucket.com/Marchak

In this game i could not of heard it any better then what my coach says. "LESS IS MORE".
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on December 17, 2010, 09:19:02 AM
Okay, now that I have seen what the core looks like on the Victory Road I can offer my 2-cents worth.

In the past the versions of this core that have had the denser part of the weight block higher in the ball have had more angular backend reactions. The lower position as seen in the Hy-Road produces a more continuos arc to the pocket.

The ball reaction should be more like that seen in the RotoGrip Nomad series rather than what you see in the Hy-Road.
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: n00dlejester on December 17, 2010, 10:55:06 AM
While this is nice and all...I want to see an R2X pearl coverstock on the new Centripetal core, or maybe even the CAM core.  And I mean pearl, none of this additive crap like the 2nd Dimension and/or Prodigy.  

R2X Pearl > all others. Ever.
--------------------
Your Guide to the Big Apple (http://"http://www.localapple.com/")
Obviously, you aren't a golfer.
Some stayed in the foothills, some washed logs like teeth.
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: EboKnight on December 17, 2010, 01:12:11 PM
its long and snappy.

doesnt matter what the ball is.

its a storm reaction.

lol.

(not trying to start anything)
--------------------
Matt Williams
Gator Pro Shop: June 04 - Present
Ebonite Staff(3 years)
www.Ebonite.com
www.GatorBowling.com

Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: CHawk15 on December 17, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
I might try a Marvel, but probably not a Victory Road.  The Victory Road will be too skid/flippy for my game.
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 17, 2010, 07:34:24 PM
Do you think the Invasion is close?

REgards,

Luckylefty
--------------------
It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: VideoBallReviews on December 20, 2010, 03:15:18 PM
Let me just say, the Victory Road Smells AMAZING...
--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: urbanshaft on December 20, 2010, 04:01:23 PM
britton we need the low downon the marvel
is it just a beefier dimension or actually comparable to a vg!!!
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: VideoBallReviews on December 20, 2010, 05:14:04 PM
quote:
britton we need the low downon the marvel
is it just a beefier dimension or actually comparable to a vg!!!


If i knew id love to share

Just got them in should throw both of them wed night in league, if i can get a decent read on them ill report back.
--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: urbanshaft on December 20, 2010, 08:38:05 PM
and pictures of the pretties
muhahaha im so evil
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: VideoBallReviews on December 21, 2010, 04:23:29 PM
quote:
and pictures of the pretties
muhahaha im so evil


I can help you out with that...

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/videoballreviews/Marvel%20and%20Victory%20Road/100_1308.jpg

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/videoballreviews/Marvel%20and%20Victory%20Road/100_1309.jpg

Let me just say after i got drilling these the entire 2nd floor of my house smells like honeybuns/cinnabuns thanks to the victory road....i love it!
--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: themagician on December 21, 2010, 04:47:19 PM
That Marvel looks awesome!
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: bowler0821 on December 21, 2010, 05:31:14 PM
Big time  sexyness. Bruit on the marvel cg in the thumb?
--------------------
Mike Marchak
NIU Grad 2010
Forward Together Forward Never Forget
NIU-2/14/08
I have Huskie Pride, how about you?
http://photobucket.com/Marchak
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: VideoBallReviews on December 21, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
quote:
Big time  sexyness. Bruit on the marvel cg in the thumb?
--------------------
Mike Marchak
NIU Grad 2010
Forward Together Forward Never Forget
NIU-2/14/08
I have Huskie Pride, how about you?
http://photobucket.com/Marchak


Yup CG ended up in the thumb...wanted to go with the same layout as my pin down prodigy and the pin came in a little long for my huge 3-15/16 span
--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: VideoBallReviews on December 22, 2010, 07:04:53 PM
quote:
britton we need the low downon the marvel
is it just a beefier dimension or actually comparable to a vg!!!



Threw them both tonight so this is purely a first impression.

The Victory road seems like a reign that isint as sensitive to the friction.  Its hard to describe but its really like a cross between a hyroad and a reign.  Earlier than a reign and stronger downlane than the hyroad and reign supreme.  The lanes got extremely wet/dry tonight after about a game so i put it away and went to a trop heat hybrid for a weaker and smoother more controlled look.

The Marvel OOB seems very comparable to a dimension, just stronger.  Strong roll throughout the entire lane that doesnt quit.  If you take it to 4000 it MAY be closer to a virtual but its really tough to tell with the few frames i put on it.  When we do the video (after the holidays) i will take the surface to 4000 and maybe also throw some polish on it and compare the 3 surfaces for everyone.
--------------------
Britton
Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com (http://"http://www.videoballreviews.com")
Multi Media Consultant
Storm Products, Inc.
www.stormbowling.com (http://"http://www.stormbowling.com")
www.rotogrip.com (http://"http://www.rotogrip.com")
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: urbanshaft on December 22, 2010, 07:14:52 PM
awesome!!!
just for me it seems like a what were they thinking with the marvel
i mean 2000 r2x solid vs 4000 r2xpearl with mica seems so identical
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: nocarey on December 22, 2010, 08:01:38 PM
Can't wait for the Victory Road!
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: bowler851 on December 25, 2010, 07:40:23 AM
really, another road ball at least they could of used an update cover.
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: T C 300 on December 25, 2010, 08:29:41 AM
quote:

In the past the versions of this core that have had the denser part of the weight block higher in the ball have had more angular backend reactions.


I said this awhile back and got told i didnt know what i was talkn about!!! LOL
you could see in the pics the core looked a lil different....

lookn foward to getn my hand in a victory!!!
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: urbanshaft on December 26, 2010, 05:13:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJNK88yi0Mo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOCVwb0V4ig
asian videos of the balls are up fellers
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 31, 2010, 06:15:20 AM
SO....

 

I didn't read all the posts above...

 

Is this ball the Marvel, the Virtual Gravity?  Please say yes!

 

Regards,

 

Luckylefty


It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 02, 2011, 04:14:16 PM
Marvel = Virtual Gravity?

 

Opinions so far?

 

REgards,

 

Luckylefty


It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: bowler0821 on January 02, 2011, 06:58:01 PM
 There saying its more similar to a dimension with more continuous backend

Mike Marchak
NIU Grad 2010
Forward Together Forward Never Forget
NIU-2/14/08
I have Huskie Pride, how about you?
http://photobucket.com/Marchak
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: 9back on January 03, 2011, 09:05:55 AM

Im sorry, and I will probably get flamed for this, but these Asian videos are horrible. The guy drills everything stack leverage, stands in the middle, throws it to the right, and the ball rolls out before it gets to the pocket. Every ball he throws looks the exact same. The lane condition is not really specific either. "Medium-Heavy", what does that mean? Volume, length of the pattern?  



urbanshaft wrote on 12/26/2010 6:13 PM:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJNK88yi0Mo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOCVwb0V4ig
asian videos of the balls are up fellers
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: LuckyLefty on January 03, 2011, 05:36:51 PM
Okay....sorry not very familiar with the Dimension.

 

For Britton....I'm assuming a 4000 grit surface is lsee than the Dimension and similar to the Virtual Gravity ie creating more backend for the Marvel..

 

Is that right?

 

REgards,

 

Luckylefty


It takes Courage to have Faith, and Faith to have Courage.

James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: BallsDeep on January 04, 2011, 08:56:59 AM
The Marvel has the same coverstock as the Virtual Gravity, but a different core design that is symmetrical (Centripetal core in the Marvel) rather than asymmetrical (Shape-Lock core in the Virtual Gravity).  

 

The Shape-Lock core that was in the Virtual gravity created a great deal of angle that was present in their other releases of balls with that core design (see Gravity Shift and Virtual Energy).  I personally feel like that core design created the most "tip" of any core design that Storm has released.


 

The first release with the Centripetal core was the Prodigy, which seems to have a tendency to roll very even for most bowlers.  Since the Marvel utilizes a solid coverstock rather than the pearlized coverstock of the Prodigy, and an out of box surface grit of 2000 rather than the 4000 of the Prodigy (4000 for the Virtual Gravity too fyi), I would expect it to roll very evenly and early.

 

I think that the Dimension comparisons sound the best given what the core/coverstock/surface combination of the Marvel is listed as... 


four fried chickens and a coke[/size=4>

Let me say something, let me say something...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: sstaz on January 04, 2011, 09:04:29 AM
the marval has the same core as the prodigy am i right?

 

so why does everyone keep saying the maravl is the same as the virtual gravity?


Title: Re: Marvel and Victory Road
Post by: nocarey on January 04, 2011, 09:46:23 AM


 



VideoBallReviews wrote on 12/21/2010 5:23 PM:
quote:


and pictures of the pretties

muhahaha im so evil






I can help you out with that...



http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/videoballreviews/Marvel%20and%20Victory%20Road/100_1308.jpg



http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/videoballreviews/Marvel%20and%20Victory%20Road/100_1309.jpg



Let me just say after i got drilling these the entire 2nd floor of my house smells like honeybuns/cinnabuns thanks to the victory road....i love it!

--------------------

Britton

Owner/Operator of Videoballreviews.com

Multi Media Consultant

Storm Products, Inc.

www.stormbowling.com

www.rotogrip.com



          Doesn't that Marvel cover look remarkably similar to the new C-System Alpha Max? . . .




 
          Anyone one else pic up either of these beauties yet?

 
 
 
Edited by nocarey on 1/4/2011 at 11:02 PM