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Equipment Boards => Storm => Topic started by: brookzy on April 27, 2013, 08:53:00 AM
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COMING THIS SUMMER FROM STORM:
HY-ROAD PEARL
- RS2 Pearl Reactive Coverstock
- Inverted Fe2 Technology Core
- Blue/Purple 1500-grit Polished Surface
- Grape Punch Fragrance
- RG 2.57 Diff. 0.046 (15 lbs.)
- 74-76 Rex. D-Scale
- 5"-6" Flare (High)
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MARVEL-S
- NRG Solid Reactive
- Centripetal Core
- Aqua/Green/Black 3000-grit Pad Surface
- Spearmint Fragrance
- RG 2.48 Diff. 0.050 (15 lbs.)
- 73-75 Rex. D-Scale
- 5"-6" Flare (High)
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(Edited to add additional specs)
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Coming to the "u.s." this summer or what?
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Coming to the "u.s." this summer or what?
Yup, US otherwise I wouldn't bother posting.
This summer international releases:
France only: Storm War Game
Japan/Asia only: Storm Sync Pearl, Storm Virtual Tour V2013, Roto Grip Dream Alliance.
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I don't know why but these strike me as overseas balls
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I don't know why but these strike me as overseas balls
I agree but can confirm without a shadow of doubt these WILL be coming to the U.S.
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Any idea when specifically they'd be released? I've been looking to replace my T-road pearl so obviously I want that hyroad pearl ASAP haha.
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The naming scheme just sounds international. .
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Any idea when specifically they'd be released? I've been looking to replace my T-road pearl so obviously I want that hyroad pearl ASAP haha.
All I know is "WWRD late July".
The naming scheme just sounds international. .
Agreed but definitely coming to US.
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I wonder if the Hyroad Pearl will be like the T-Road Pearl that was out a few years ago, that was one of the best balls Storm ever made
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I wonder if the Hyroad Pearl will be like the T-Road Pearl that was out a few years ago, that was one of the best balls Storm ever made
All those guys selling them for $300 sure hope not!
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Same cover, same core, same core specs. T-road pearl was one mean piece, hopefully this isnt too sweet to be true.
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I doubt this is true...there is no way with the success of the iq tours that theyre going to do away and go back to marvel line... (which had its own success)
However, they did retread back to the virtual line after the invasion didnt do so hot. So idk....the reign line coming back also is an example of this...theyre really just all over the place with their lines..
I was hoping for something new? Yeah...something new..call it hy-something atleast
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I doubt this is true...there is no way with the success of the iq tours that theyre going to do away and go back to marvel line... (which had its own success)
However, they did retread back to the virtual line after the invasion didnt do so hot. So idk....the reign line coming back also is an example of this...theyre really just all over the place with their lines..
I was hoping for something new? Yeah...something new..call it hy-something atleast
You think this is fake? What is wrong with you dude?!?
Just so you know, it is me who posted in January on this forum about the last batch of Storm balls before Storm took the post down with a cease and desist order.
Why would I bother faking it? Anyway, US Pro Shops will be sent the info sometime next week.
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Here's some real-world pics. You guys happy now?
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well maybe if you can tell us how you know this info..like youre randy Peterson :P
maybe if the hyroad pearl is cheaper then the reigns? ye sounds us
but the marvel coming back is odd over the iq name unless they gona seperare the tours from the iq/marvel line
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Pearl Hy-road? I thought the "HY" in Hy-road came from the fact that it was a HYbrid coverstock to begin with. To have a HY-road that is NOT a HYbrid just seems odd.
As for the Marvel S, I can see that. The Marvel line was successful, but the solid left something to be desired by many, so why not try a new solid cover in that line, even if only to give it to those who want a full lineup of one model?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Storm's International releases are void of scent, correct?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Storm's International releases are void of scent, correct?
It's fairly consistent, but more than a few non-domestic releases have had scents.
Sync Pearl - Orange Berry
Virtual Gravity XRS - Red Hot Cinnamon
Virtual Gravity Nano 300ADV - Green Mint
Lucid Vision - Blueberry
Vivid Dream - Fruit Punch
IQ Score - Magic Mint
Perhaps the bowlers in Asia are starting to grow fond of scented high performance pieces...
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I was extremely interested in the pearl,.... until I looked at the core numbers. True, the same core but the diff is lowered by .012 and the RG is a bit too high. What made the T-Road Pearl so wonderful is it was a smooth rolling pearl that covered a lot of boards for a low price. It almost seems like a weaker version of the Fireroad. It will be slightly flippier than the Tour Pearl because of the difference in diff.
It just seems odd because the have the Lights Out which will have close to the same rg and a small diff difference. The Marvel seems interesting. It's been a good while since I've had a particle Symmetrical. All the Marvels were a beast, so long as you used them for the intended condition.
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Marvel S will actually be a replacement for the poor selling IQ. Same core with a high traction cover. I think the PFT is a bit questionable and maybe this is Storm's way of acknowledging it.
As someone mentioned, Storm did this with the Invasion/Anarchy line. Core cover combo was too strong and so they backed away and used a tweak of the tried and true (VG) to develop the Nanos.
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I was extremely interested in the pearl,.... until I looked at the core numbers. True, the same core but the diff is lowered by .012 and the RG is a bit too high. What made the T-Road Pearl so wonderful is it was a smooth rolling pearl that covered a lot of boards for a low price. It almost seems like a weaker version of the Fireroad. It will be slightly flippier than the Tour Pearl because of the difference in diff.
It just seems odd because the have the Lights Out which will have close to the same rg and a small diff difference. The Marvel seems interesting. It's been a good while since I've had a particle Symmetrical. All the Marvels were a beast, so long as you used them for the intended condition.
Unless I am mistaken, the core # for the Pearl Hyroad are the same as the Hyroad and the T-Road series (inverted Fe2). The Fire Road and Crossroad have the inverted Fe3, which has slightly higher diff and lower RG.
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But im confused. If the marvel-s is a replacement because the core and cover combo made it lazy, why use a stronger cover? Plus, i thought the marvel series needed another polished cover and storm storm did not release nrg polished.
By the way, i liked the invasion/anarchy line. I felt it too strong of a cover for house shot bowlers. If it used r2x, it would have really succeeded. R3x with the iq tour series core could work because it allows the cover to use its true power. No?
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R2x was the original marvel...I loved it!
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Its not the same, look at the numbers. Same core, different numbers. 2.52RG and .057 Rg Diff for the T-Road Pearl, 2.57 And .038 For this pearl offering. It'll be longer and weaker than the Original T-Road Pearl
I was extremely interested in the pearl,.... until I looked at the core numbers. True, the same core but the diff is lowered by .012 and the RG is a bit too high. What made the T-Road Pearl so wonderful is it was a smooth rolling pearl that covered a lot of boards for a low price. It almost seems like a weaker version of the Fireroad. It will be slightly flippier than the Tour Pearl because of the difference in diff.
It just seems odd because the have the Lights Out which will have close to the same rg and a small diff difference. The Marvel seems interesting. It's been a good while since I've had a particle Symmetrical. All the Marvels were a beast, so long as you used them for the intended condition.
Unless I am mistaken, the core # for the Pearl Hyroad are the same as the Hyroad and the T-Road series (inverted Fe2). The Fire Road and Crossroad have the inverted Fe3, which has slightly higher diff and lower RG.
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Its not the same, look at the numbers. Same core, different numbers. 2.52RG and .057 Rg Diff for the T-Road Pearl, 2.57 And .038 For this pearl offering. It'll be longer and weaker than the Original T-Road Pearl
I was extremely interested in the pearl,.... until I looked at the core numbers. True, the same core but the diff is lowered by .012 and the RG is a bit too high. What made the T-Road Pearl so wonderful is it was a smooth rolling pearl that covered a lot of boards for a low price. It almost seems like a weaker version of the Fireroad. It will be slightly flippier than the Tour Pearl because of the difference in diff.
It just seems odd because the have the Lights Out which will have close to the same rg and a small diff difference. The Marvel seems interesting. It's been a good while since I've had a particle Symmetrical. All the Marvels were a beast, so long as you used them for the intended condition.
Unless I am mistaken, the core # for the Pearl Hyroad are the same as the Hyroad and the T-Road series (inverted Fe2). The Fire Road and Crossroad have the inverted Fe3, which has slightly higher diff and lower RG.
Are you talking about the 15# or 16? 15 was 2.57 .042 in the Hyroad
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Also, does anyone else think that Storm intends the Marvel-S to be pronounced 'Marvellous'? Because that would make it quite a clever name...
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Also, does anyone else think that Storm intends the Marvel-S to be pronounced 'Marvellous'? Because that would make it quite a clever name...
Maybe Mahhhhvelus!
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http://www.stormbowling.com/products/balls/classic/t-road-pearl
2.52 RG .058 Diff
http://www.stormbowling.com/products/balls/hy-road
2.57 RG .047 Diff
and this new offering, the Pearl "Hyroad" is pretty much the same ball as the T-Road Pearl. All 3 have the same core however the numbers are altered to give different reactions. l was excited about the Pearl Hyroad because with the same core and cover as the T-Road Pearl, it would make for a hugely formmitable piece...... that I would have bought a case of. LOL! However, with the slightly longer and weaker numbers, for me it would not make sense to get one when the Lights Out numbers are close and a slightly stronger cover.
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http://www.stormbowling.com/products/balls/classic/t-road-pearl
2.52 RG .058 Diff
http://www.stormbowling.com/products/balls/hy-road
2.57 RG .047 Diff
and this new offering, the Pearl "Hyroad" is pretty much the same ball as the T-Road Pearl. All 3 have the same core however the numbers are altered to give different reactions. l was excited about the Pearl Hyroad because with the same core and cover as the T-Road Pearl, it would make for a hugely formmitable piece...... that I would have bought a case of. LOL! However, with the slightly longer and weaker numbers, for me it would not make sense to get one when the Lights Out numbers are close and a slightly stronger cover.
James, go to the "catalog sheets". The # you are quoting for the T-pearl are the 16# numbers. The 15# is the same as the Hyroad @ 2.57 .046. All the T-roads used the same core.
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Good point. My apologies. Lol!
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same cover and core as the t-road pearl... i drilled a fringe thinking it was the same as a 2fast, which i loved, and was completely disappointed. hopefully this doesn't happen again
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FYI, here's how Storm says the Hy-Road Pearl will react compared to other balls.
(Speed Road is an international release for those wondering)
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lol...
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same cover and core as the t-road pearl... i drilled a fringe thinking it was the same as a 2fast, which i loved, and was completely disappointed. hopefully this doesn't happen again
The color of the ball is what makes it different. Red and yellow seems to hook the most, in my experiences. Early reports have the Freakin' Frantic much closer to the 2Fast through the front of the lane, with more backend kick.
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If NRG cover gonna be coming to Master line then should I expect new Premier line to have brand new coverstock this fall/winter? I like trying new stuff...
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This is part of the reason I bought more roto stuff this year and have recently purchased a brunswick ball. Albeit storm makes great stuff, and I've shot great with storm they just keep putting out the same balls. People will buy what works, but after awhile its hard to create excitement over bowling balls u have had before. The marvel- s is a new combo, and the hyroad pearl should be fantastic because it is a t-road pearl, however I know we are all waiting for storms nxt big idea like they had this year with the tour balls.
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same cover and core as the t-road pearl... i drilled a fringe thinking it was the same as a 2fast, which i loved, and was completely disappointed. hopefully this doesn't happen again
The color of the ball is what makes it different. Red and yellow seems to hook the most, in my experiences. Early reports have the Freakin' Frantic much closer to the 2Fast through the front of the lane, with more backend kick.
not to change the subject congrats on your regional win Tommy
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Wouldn't you say that the Hy-road pearl is simply a re-designed Victory Road Pearl.. A way to put the product back out with a boost, given the popularity of the hy-road??
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Wouldn't you say that the Hy-road pearl is simply a redesigned Victory Road Pearl.. A way to put the product back out with a boost, given the popularity of the hy-road??
The core has gone back and forth since the original Thunder/ Thunder Road balls. Where the "power ball" is placed in the core, and the densities have been tweaked over many years. It has seen variations in the Hot Rod series as well as the Thunderstruck and T-Road series and Erasers.
It is really hard to come up with something, core shape wise, that would be unique and different to the industry, when talking about symmetrical cores. ALL companies rehash previously released cores, with newer, more modern covers and tweaks to the densities.
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same cover and core as the t-road pearl... i drilled a fringe thinking it was the same as a 2fast, which i loved, and was completely disappointed. hopefully this doesn't happen again
The color of the ball is what makes it different. Red and yellow seems to hook the most, in my experiences. Early reports have the Freakin' Frantic much closer to the 2Fast through the front of the lane, with more backend kick.
not to change the subject congrats on your regional win Tommy
Thank you.
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Wouldn't you say that the Hy-road pearl is simply a re-designed Victory Road Pearl.. A way to put the product back out with a boost, given the popularity of the hy-road??
Not really in this case. Two completely different cores.
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Is it just me or wasn't there already a Hy-road pearl called...umm yeah Victory Road? That was a pretty good ball itself. Discontinue it only to replace it?
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The Hyroad name is probably more marketable than the Victory Road name.
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Is it just me or wasn't there already a Hy-road pearl called...umm yeah Victory Road? That was a pretty good ball itself. Discontinue it only to replace it?
No, different cores. The T Road pearl would be similar. Same core, and R2S pearl cover. The T Road was thought to have some of the curelyon in the cover that made it really clean, though.
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The Hyroad name is probably more marketable than the Victory Road name.
...and BINGO was his name-o!
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This has nothing to do with the victory series it's not the same ball. It is the exact same ad the t-road pearl not victory road pearl.
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I think the victory road was replaced by the iq tour pearl. It has better midlane with the 2.48 rg versue 2.56, and more controllable. I hear greater success from the iq pearl users more than i heard from victory road users.
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The tour line is its own separate line. They took half the diff out of it. The hy-road pearl is a modern t-road pearl and will take the place of the victory road.
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Yea i know, but the t-road learl wasn't as flippy as the victory road pearl. I was alking in the sense of the company's medium oil skid/flip. But i understand what you mean. By the way, where does the fire road fit then? Because if it is more of an arc compared to a flip, then why else would storm release a hy-road pearl.
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my guess is that it wasnt as popular as they thought. at least in my area the victory road was muh more popular than the fire road. plus that glitch for a couple months when people thought there was a problem with the covers on it gave it a bad wrap i think
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My son is moving up from 10# to 12. He is turning 12 in July but only started bowling back in January. He had his biweekly lesson last night and we stopped in the proshop after to discuss what ball would be appropriate. His coach is the wife if the shop owner; very convenient. (I won't mention the name since they have an online presence and I assume that would be verboten).
Upon consultation it was agreed by all that a midrange ball would be the best way to go. Although he has a rich eye and is very knowledgable about the different balls on the market, it was explained that the high end balls would be too much ball for the predominant conditions he will be bowling under and there is no core differences (for all intents and purposes) at 12#.
Accepting that we started to explore options. He is by default a Storm fan since he has seen a number of pros have success with storm balls. Who says kids wont watch bowling on TV? He had seen pictures of the hyroad pearl online and was not interested. Didn't like the way the purple looked in the picture. However, as we were standing there, the Storm sales rep came in the shop with a box. Inside the box was a shiny new hyroad pearl. It looks much much better in person than in the picture. We checked with his coach and her husband and they agreed it should be a suitable ball for his needs and style so we made the decision on the spot. Once they're released it will get drilled up.
PAP and axis tilt was measured after his lesson. I'm excited for him as he continues to progress and I'm certain this ball will help in that regard. Very happy with the owner and his coach and I'm glad I found them. It's an hour drive each way every other week but it's well worth it. I will update next month after he gets it to provide a youth bowlers perspective. Great forum.
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Buddies has the fire road on the must go list. I guess it's reaction is too close to the crossroad for the majority even though the crossroad at 2000 makes it a much stronger/different motion overall.
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i think the issue with the fire road too is that with the last couple releases in its place (victory road pearl and reign) people were expecting it to go sideways and the stronger cover didnt allow it to
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Is it a smooth pearl? If so i should consider it for multiple people.
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Looks much better in person:
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